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Dre
04-08-2002, 02:56 AM
Hey everyone,

I want to address something I can't seem to understand.

I come on these forums alot. Its the best place to get the latest news and ask people about games I'm not to sure about, etc.

What I find disconcerting however is the lack of respect towards other members and consoles. It seems that whenever someone voices an opinion that is taboo to the so-called xbox-addict (such as sales doing badly in a region of the world... you almost all know what I'm referring too) this person is flamed. Or, in order to back up an argument they've made, some members will turn to insults instead of proof. Why is this? If I wanted to participate in discussions where the level of intelligence is that of a grade 3 kid learning how to cuss, I will just go see my neighbors little boy :) You should see this kids potty mouth! hehe.. but anyways...

Its not very becoming and not really the place to show your flaming "skills". Its a place where we come to discuss xbox related news, be it good OR bad.

Another thing I find quite annoying is the hypocrisy of many XBA members. Calling someone a "fanboy" is insulting it seems, however, I've noticed that most people that use this term are in fact themselves guilty of the same fanboyism (my new word of the day ;)). Calling the PS2 a PoS2 or a Gamecube a lamecube is simply childish and frankly serves no purpose at all.

Its one thing to take pride in a system, but many people seem to have forgotten the purpose of a console. Its too play games.

I own an Xbox, not a PS2 or a NGC.. my choice was based solely on the hardware specs at the time I purchased it. If I was to have based myself on games at the time of purchase, I would have gone with a PS2 for FFX, GTA3 and GT3. But, I'm a computer engineer (well.. in 8 months anyways) and I want top-notch bleeding edge technology! That doesn't mean that now that I own an Xbox I am going to be completely oblivious to the fact that there are still amazing games that are going to be (or already are) on the other consoles! Basically, the point I am trying to get across is that we should be focusing on games because in the end, thats the ONLY thing that matters. MS has alot (read too much! :D) of money and there's no way in hell that with the resources they have they'd sit back and watch the xbox flop.

So, next time you read a post you don't agree with and you feel like flaming, why don't you just look the other way and not even give the original poster the satisfaction of replying. As you've all seen, flaming competitions NEVER accomplish anything but wasting everybody's time. Sure, they're fun to read from time to time, but it ain't the place! :)

Anyways, this thing is getting pretty long and I'm sorry, but I was really disgusted after reading a very long thread in which certain members decided to resort to name calling instead of factual evidence.

So, have a good one and remember that its ok to still be civilized, even if this is the internet.

Lates,
Dre

Azazel
04-08-2002, 03:05 AM
I have a good question. I saw in your post you were talking about the PS2 and the PoS2. What the hell is a PoS2? I keep seeing that allover the place, but dont understand what the difference is or even what it is?

Dre
04-08-2002, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by ty818
I have a good question. I saw in your post you were talking about the PS2 and the PoS2. What the hell is a PoS2? I keep seeing that allover the place, but dont understand what the difference is or even what it is?

Its a deregotory comment to the ps2
PoS2 = piece of sh*t 2...

Azazel
04-08-2002, 03:23 AM
Boy do I feel stupid. All this time I thought it was some sort of Playstation console. Lol.

LynxFX
04-08-2002, 05:12 AM
I agree with you Dre and nicely put I might add.

I think one of the problems, or not really a problem it just happens to be the source of most of what you described, is that there are alot of 16 and under folks here and alot of them think it is cool to be on the internet for the first time and figure that no one listens to you unless you swear and make porno references. No offense to any of you that are in the under 16 crowd and are civilized. I don't mean to just group you like that but you will find that more times than not that is the case. I have met some really cool youngsters (can't believe I said that :)) on this board as well as others.

Not to say that they are the only sources either but when the fit hits the shan that is what I see day after day on these boards.

I belong to a great number of message boards and most have different types of people and ages as members and it is amazing how different the overall atmospheres of the different boards are. Some are totally civilized with not a hint of flaming ever and others just make you want to put everyone on the ignore list. This boards falls in the middle. :)

E-Vader
04-08-2002, 05:14 AM
I agree with you there Dre, I consider myself a gamer so I don't really care which system I play on, I come here to talk about Xbox related stuff, When I want to talk about PS2 stuff I go to a PS2 forum site.

As long as they keep making games I'm gunna keep playing them:D

Halo of Flies
04-08-2002, 06:40 AM
Loser!


*joke* :D

No, I agree totally with this thread. Insults achieve nothing. Sure, it may be tempting to look down on all other consoles but a lot of that has to do with the fact that when you choose one console over another you have a lot invested in that machine. You want to reassure yourself constantly that you have made the right choice, all your money wasn't spent in vain and that you have 'the best'. Most of us are guilty of this to some extent (myself included) but it an't big and it ain't clever...

As for flaming people, this should be kept to the kind of member who has 2 posts and puts up a thread simply stating "XBOX Sucks!!". Even then, are they REALLY worth your effort?

Skarp
04-08-2002, 07:36 AM
I agree with that and I wish it was the way these boards operated, but you have to look at it logically, its not going to happen. What your saying is comperable to lets say, a homophobic person going into a crowd of lesbians and yelling, you are all doing it wrong, it should be like this. Yes there should be nothing wrong with that cause the person is simply voicing there opinion, but when your doing that at a website called "xboxaddict", you need to understand that if you say something that upsets these xbox zealots, they're going to be somewhat unruly. Sad but true...

El Pollo Loco
04-08-2002, 09:31 AM
Well said.

I've been working on getting games to play on my toaster and needed some help but I've always refrained because I was worried about the rest of the forum laughing at me. Now I feel secure enough to tell the whole world! :D :D

UnitedKingdom
04-08-2002, 10:18 AM
I have to agree with dre on this matter to an extent. I recently posted a tread about malfunctioning european xbox's (just signed up). Pretty soon people were moaning that i was a ps2 or gc lover and that i was diss-ing the xbox name.

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 10:35 AM
Wishful thinking junior, but we dont live in a world where you can have your cake & eat it too!
Everyone is a individual and has the rights to express themselves anyway they would like. Whether you or I like it does'nt matter.
This is a forum that is very diverse with different opinions and ect.

Some day, someone is gonna say something you do not agree with,... I say so what!
If people want to call the GC a LameCube so what! If people (like me:D ) want to call the PS2 a PoS2 so what!
Who cares that much,..... you can call it childish or whatever you feel. Everyone expresses the way they want because that is whome they are. You cant change peoples opinions because you feel it's not up to your standards.

I think I have made my point, no harm- your a cool cat Dre.

Quote da Ninja, never more.:cool:

JJaX
04-08-2002, 10:41 AM
I think people that own Lamecube dont have pubic hair. And i think people that own PoS2 are midgets.

but if they have an xbox too, Then there cool.

Im a simple minded man, And my views have been slandered over these console wars. Ive been in it since Atari vs Commadore 64, Nintendo vs master system. Choosing sides is fun, And i love poking fun and annoying the other side.

Lame....Yes
Fun....You bet.

CAlling someone a punk ass ho just because they own a certain system is good fun! Try it!

I dont appreciete Pos2 owners spreading false rumors about my xbox. So i spread hate in retalation.

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by JJaX
I think people that own Lamecube dont have pubic hair. And i think people that own PoS2 are midgets.

but if they have an xbox too, Then there cool.

Im a simple minded man, And my views have been slandered over these console wars. Ive been in it since Atari vs Commadore 64, Nintendo vs master system. Choosing sides is fun, And i love poking fun and annoying the other side.

Lame....Yes
Fun....You bet.

CAlling someone a punk ass ho just because they own a certain system is good fun! Try it!

I dont appreciete Pos2 owners spreading false rumors about my xbox. So i spread hate in retalation.

Yeah, my dawg is keeping it real, but JJax- da question is "who's worse"? Ninja or JJax!?:D

JJaX
04-08-2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Ninja Scroll


Yeah, my dawg is keeping it real, but JJax- da question is "who's worse"? Ninja or JJax!?:D

Id say you are. Your more open about all this. I keep it all bottled in and lash out on certain occasions.

Does following a kid out of the mall and running him off the road cause he bought PS2 count???

just kiddin....

But i do take my rivalrys serious. When i was 16 i worked for Pizza Hut (1st job) And one day we were gonna order dominos and jump the delivery boy (results of drinking on the job Eh?). And we always punched and threw things when they aired domino and papa Jon commericals on Tv. And saluted and stood proud when we saw Pizza hut commericals. Yes i have issues.....ITs all in good fun though :D

Brevity
04-08-2002, 11:31 AM
Jjax please for the love of god take that sig off somewhere and leave it. I dont know why but I hate it. It scares me, and some times if I look at it the right way I can see if saying "Im gona f-ck you up, with this XXX keg."

Anyway I agree w/Jjax, Ninny, and Dre

I think Dre has come in on several posts and been the voice of reason. I can see that he practices what he preaches. I think you have a great point Dre, but I can see that through this forum people should be able to say anything or close to it. And I know your not saying Admins should put a stop to it all together. Anyway you all make a good point.

JJaX
04-08-2002, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Brevity
Jjax please for the love of god take that sig off somewhere and leave it. I dont know why but I hate it. It scares me, and some times if I look at it the right way I can see if saying "Im gona f-ck you up, with this XXX keg."


Is russel Crow Man! He was great in the last south park. S4it was off the wall.

BLOKES!

Brevity
04-08-2002, 12:11 PM
HE'S FRIGHTENING! and he looks a little g a y , not that theres anything wrong w/that. Sinfield Q. :)

JJaX
04-08-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Brevity
HE'S FRIGHTENING! and he looks a little g a y , not that theres anything wrong w/that. Sinfield Q. :)

Oh no doubt, Russels Gay as night. I saw it on the cover of national inquirer.

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Brevity


Anyway I agree w/Jjax, Ninny, and Dre




The Ninny!?:confused: That's it, it's cool when waximus calls me Ninja turtle and funny stuff like dat, but Ninny!:mad:

That's it, time to open up a can of Ninja whoop ass on Brevity!:D

Calve
04-08-2002, 12:16 PM
I agree wit everyone!!!

Except Donatello here!!


Peace

JJaX
04-08-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Ninja Scroll



The Ninny!?:confused: That's it, it's cool when waximus calls me Ninja turtle and funny stuff like dat, but Ninny!:mad:

That's it, time to open up a can of Ninja whoop ass on Brevity!:D

Im gonna brain storm for like 1 minute and see what i can come up with for you!! BWAHAHAHAH GO!

Ninja Scrotum
Ninja SacK


dam, Times up....... :D :D :D

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 12:23 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JJaX
[B]

Id say you are. Your more open about all this. I keep it all bottled in and lash out on certain occasions.
_______________________________________________

ninja says: your probably right their! I have no palse in dis peace!
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Does following a kid out of the mall and running him off the road cause he bought PS2 count???
________________________________________________
Ninja says: So jjax, you where the one that ratted me out on PS2's debut release date EH? :D
________________________________________________

But i do take my rivalrys serious. When i was 16 i worked for Pizza Hut (1st job) And one day we were gonna order dominos and jump the delivery boy (results of drinking on the job Eh?). And we always punched and threw things when they aired domino and papa Jon commericals on Tv. And saluted and stood proud when we saw Pizza hut commericals. Yes i have issues.....ITs all in good fun though :D

_________________________________________________

Ninja says: So Pixxa Hut was your first gig EH? Mine was a paper route joint in da hizzood!

Brevity
04-08-2002, 12:46 PM
Jubei listen about your sig. I am the guy in white on top of the hill, Jjax is guy two on the hill and your the Joe holding on to that rope.....Like in here I want you to see that I can let you go and you will fall and perish.





Or sorry and lets not fight,,,,,,,I was kidding...:D

JJaX
04-08-2002, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Brevity
Jubei listen about your sig. I am the guy in white on top of the hill, Jjax is guy two on the hill and your the Joe holding on to that rope.....Like in here I want you to see that I can let you go and you will fall and perish.





Or sorry and lets not fight,,,,,,,I was kidding...:D

Well than, You would die soon, and im a chick :eek:

Brevity
04-08-2002, 12:59 PM
???? I dont understand,,,,,,,Break it down,,,,,And wow your a Chick,,,,did not know that there were any of them in here,,,,,,,I call your bluff......Ooops I forgot a/b Maxine her and you will make two then,,,,where has she been today?????

Spaztic
04-08-2002, 01:12 PM
I feel we have to many crying ass *****es at this site! You all sound like a bunch of stoned hippies "peace and love". If someone says something I don't like or agree with it is my first admendment right to flame or preverbal smack the **** out of him. Stop crying about people getting along! This whole Gerald incident is getting way to played out of hand! The man stated his option, like it our not, but lets not cry! Damn Babie!

JJaX
04-08-2002, 01:16 PM
http://www.arcticnightfall.com/ninjascroll/pix/images/image193.jpg

Jubei is the dude in brown
The guy up top with string is a demon who later dies.
And the person in purple is a female ninja.


I am a dude..

Hugh_Jass
04-08-2002, 01:33 PM
I don't think I've ever insulted the GC. I have referred to PS2 as PoS2 because I truly feel it is without merit. I give respect where respect is due but I wouldn't take a PS2 if it were free.

thejoker
04-08-2002, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by bryanhls
I feel we have to many crying ass *****es at this site! You all sound like a bunch of stoned hippies "peace and love". If someone says something I don't like or agree with it is my first admendment right to flame or preverbal smack the **** out of him. Stop crying about people getting along! This whole Gerald incident is getting way to played out of hand! The man stated his option, like it our not, but lets not cry! Damn Babie!

Heck Ya! I'm with you on that one!

Brevity
04-08-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by JJaX
http://www.arcticnightfall.com/ninjascroll/pix/images/image193.jpg

Jubei is the dude in brown
The guy up top with string is a demon who later dies.
And the person in purple is a female ninja.


I am a dude..
wahaha ha I get it now thanks for the breakdown. I will rethink this. Anyway you know alot a/b this stuff or something? I think we are messing up this thread.....Sorry

GRAVEDIGGER
04-08-2002, 01:59 PM
Ok thats it...someone stop the madness....Jjax is confused about his/her sexuality..lol, my dawg Ninja is still lettin peeps have it, and Brevity isnt so Breif anymore, and is proverbially terrified of Russel Crow..Hmm....well Crow does look a bit on the rainbow side.

Everytime i see Jjax's sig i hear that song from the Flanagans
commercial (Irish accent)"as i put on my daily attire, i popped my clothes right out of the dryer"

As for the complaints about "immaturity" and what-not, i think that everyone in here has the right to voice their opinion in any way they see fit, without using extreme vulgar language. "Because if we all agreed on everything then it would be boring, for without war and dissagreement there can be no true peace"(the diggaz's new quote of the day:D)..lol

But when its all said and done,all the smoke has cleared and all the dust has settled, we cant stop coming back to XBA forums, so 1 TIME FOR OL' XBA
...Peace

Untill next time..:mad:

JJaX
04-08-2002, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Brevity

wahaha ha I get it now thanks for the breakdown. I will rethink this. Anyway you know alot a/b this stuff or something? I think we are messing up this thread.....Sorry

ive seen the movie "ninja scroll" like 100 times. Great Japanese animation. Only one i can really get into.

i suggest you buy or rent the DVD. Its a beatiful peace of art.

JJaX
04-08-2002, 02:11 PM
But lets get back to the thread topic.

I think people should just voice there real opinion. Sure console wars is immature, But im a immature guy. I still fart in my hand and cup it so i can unleash havoc on sleeping cats and people.

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by GRAVEDIGGER
Ok thats it...someone stop the madness....Jjax is confused about his/her sexuality..lol, my dawg Ninja is still lettin peeps have it, and Brevity isnt so Breif anymore, and is proverbially terrified of Russel Crow..Hmm....well Crow does look a bit on the rainbow side.



LMAO!!!!:D

LynxFX
04-08-2002, 03:23 PM
As for the complaints about "immaturity" and what-not, i think that everyone in here has the right to voice their opinion in any way they see fit, without using extreme vulgar language. "Because if we all agreed on everything then it would be boring,

There's a difference between voicing your opinion and flaming someone. You can have one without the other. Of course people are going to have different opinions. That is the point. It is how you react to those opinions that shows the maturity or lack of on this board or others like it.

E-Xbox
04-08-2002, 03:29 PM
i agree dre

and i would juss like to say something...
i have noticed it lately...and i know a few other members have to
the newer members..in the last month or 2 have no respect towards the older members.....
in the chat room...some of the newer members will juss flood and do wateva....
and the only time they are eva in the chat room is when a contest is on..
i go in the chat every day...and i always see the same people
xboxaddict - jeremys bot
shannon-away
and then theres me....

thanks for your time...

peace...

E-Xbox
04-08-2002, 03:30 PM
oh and btw...
my lass comments were not for ALL the newbiis
juss some of them....
the rest are coo...

peace

JJaX
04-08-2002, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by E-Xbox
i agree dre

and i would juss like to say something...
i have noticed it lately...and i know a few other members have to
the newer members..in the last month or 2 have no respect towards the older members.....
in the chat room...some of the newer members will juss flood and do wateva....
and the only time they are eva in the chat room is when a contest is on..
i go in the chat every day...and i always see the same people
xboxaddict - jeremys bot
shannon-away
and then theres me....

thanks for your time...

peace...

Not to be a dik or anything..

But is English your 2nd language???

Ninja Scroll
04-08-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by JJaX


Not to be a dik or anything..

But is English your 2nd language???

Im sorry E-Xbox but, ROTFLMAO!!!!:D That was some funny shhhhiii Jjax!!!!!:D

JJaX
04-08-2002, 03:55 PM
No really, Im not trying to be funny for once........

I know my post dont make sense a lot to, And my vocabulary is far from expansive. Maybe its how you write that confuses me. Maybe im the slow one. If its a slang thing than 'Mo PowA To Ya'
Just thought id ask.....

:shrugs shoulders:

E-Xbox
04-08-2002, 04:44 PM
na man
i talk in pure slang...
like juss...instead of just
and rite..instead of right or write
and so on...

hehe.....


peace

GokuX
04-08-2002, 04:45 PM
Well when a post is titled "Xbox flopped," etc, then what does that sound like, a troll post. If ya don't want the heat then maybe if you're gonna point out failings and what not you might want to choose a better title and a better way to make your point. I think it's kinda lame to cry about getting flamed when your words are poorly chosen and seem chosen specifically to insight flames.

heartsxcarved
04-08-2002, 05:21 PM
Disrespect? eh, shut up.

jschelm
04-08-2002, 05:51 PM
I agree that people have the right to say whatever they want, but at the same time don't forget that bashing people for some things does not do anything but help to ruin this site. I am sure that 1 reason a lot of people aren't active on this board is because they have been flamed or have seen so many people get flamed for no reason. Heck I think I have been all but shunned by the active people on here for sticking up for a couple people that were getting made fun of. Oh well. I would just hate to see all of the good contributors on the site move someplace else to get away from the BS

Once again, just my .02

Spike Minoda
04-08-2002, 06:06 PM
I know what dre means
3 words

Lord_jameso_man

OppiumNitrates
04-08-2002, 07:49 PM
i think DRE u got a good point
jJaX i think u have a good point
Ninja u also have a good point


Point is all message board r like this
people can have arguments with facts
and people can have arguments with namecalling
which people do u think a smarter and which r funnier
i mean we all need a good laugh once in a while

DRE my advice to u ignor all the members who always make such comments

l Maximus l
04-08-2002, 08:37 PM
Alright, dudes...I've been away pretty much all day today feeling a little "under the weather"...however, I'll be back tomorrow (since Brevity asked where I was).

But, I would really like to comment on this. Dre, while I respect your points, Hugh_Jass makes one of the best points from this thread.

In doing research about which console is the best, the XBox comes out on top. Let's do a comparison:

XBox: $299.99 USD

1. 733 m processor - 3 times the power of the PS2 and over twice the power of the GameCube
2. Hard-drive - standard - Used for game saves. No need to purchase a $36.99 memory card.
3. Hard-drive - allowing gamers to rip their personal CD collection and listen to their music while playing selective games - this is innovative and the PS2 and the GameCube have no such capability.
4. DVD capable - able to watch DVD movies - The GameCube lacks this while the PS2 provides very low quality and the innability to play certain DVD movies.
5. Widescreen capable - XBox features Widescreen support. HDTV is the future and the XBox has it in mind. Both GameCube and PS2 lack this important feature.
6. 480p, 720p, and 1080i support - XBox also features the ability to read games featuring progressive scan. Both PS2 and GameCube do not have this capability. Also important for HDTV owners.
7. Dolby Digital DTS support - XBox features support for this as well as the games. Imagine playing Halo and actually hearing someone sneaking up behind you and hearing it in your back speakers, not your front speakers. Both PS2 and GameCube lack this feature.
8. Broadband - standard. Both PS2 and GameCube lack what is truly "gaming of the future". Sure, PS2 has an add-on...but, for a pretty penny. And, even then, it's only going to be narrowband, not broadband.
9. XBox Communicator - dub your voices and utilize voice over broadband while gaming on-line. No need for a keyboard to type your emotions...just speak it directly. Great for team games for strategizing or direct combat and simply talking trash. Both GameCube and PS2 lack this feature.
10. nVidia graphics card - XBox features this which is more powerful than the GeForce4...just barely. PS2 and GameCube come no where close to the graphical capabilities of the nVidia graphics card which is sitting right in your XBox as you read this.
11. Games contain "XBox Xtras", meaning, XBox takes major hits that are found on the other consoles then adds more playable characters, more enemies, more weapons, more levels, more secrets, alternate endings, enhanced graphics, etc. Why own the second best version of the same game? All of this and XBox tags the same price tag on the game.

These are just a few examples. And, yes, those are the facts. So, I believe we, as XBox ADDICTS, make legitimate accusations towards the other consoles, which certainly quality them nothing less to be called the "PoS2" and the "LameCube".

It's that simple. Now, about that Gerard fellow on the other board you were making reference to, if you read the entire thing, you will notice that none of us called him any deragatory names. By contrast, he just called everyone here here "retards". Myself and many of the my fellow addicts simply made him look like an idiot without calling him names. So, in essence, he was the one flaming, not us.

Anyway, Dre, you make some great points, and while I agree with most of it, I still find that having our own opinions is important. No one is going to agree with another 100% of the time. If that was the case, message boards would be more like "Message BOREDOM". :D

OppiumNitrates
04-08-2002, 08:56 PM
I only have one problem with your statements, this one:


Originally posted by Maximus
7. Dolby Digital DTS support - XBox features support for this as well as the games. Imagine playing Halo and actually hearing someone sneaking up behind you and hearing it in your back speakers, not your front speakers. Both PS2 and GameCube lack this feature.

The word 'Imagine' should be removed because i have accually done this i dont have to imagine doing it

also u left out the fact that the Xbox cost $400.00 to make and only sells at $300.00
gotta hand it to bill there