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Exec
09-18-2001, 10:02 AM
I cannot believe that a 3D-Shooter like Halo is playable with only a controller like the XBox has. I have played 3D-Shooters (First Person) on some other consoles and it was absolutely uncontrolable. You definetly need a mouse and keyboard. How can you strafe jump shoot and look with a controller at one time? I can't.

GodnataS
09-18-2001, 11:47 AM
It's called coordination :)


Well some people will like it and some won't...and I'm sure at some point some 3rd party developer will make a keyboard and mouse for the x box..

Big_Bad_Munky
09-18-2001, 02:54 PM
it's easy, u get one joystick/analog stick for sidestep+forward/backward, and the other one for aiming, the back button is for shooting,

so u can easily strafe, jump and shoot

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 02:58 PM
they might have some options on controls like if u dont like the analog joystick being strafe and that u can use the d pad to strafe and stuff like that

xboxlover
09-18-2001, 03:02 PM
Yeah golden eye handles well with controller.

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 03:04 PM
but u have to hit R to go into aiming mode and all u can do i move half a meter to left or right while ur aiming

xboxlover
09-18-2001, 03:20 PM
Yeah i get ure point , if u have max payne then keyboard an mouse are brill.

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 03:45 PM
im gettin my friend to burn me max payne so ill see how it is

cvking
09-18-2001, 03:48 PM
1st off it isn't burnable and it's a real good game

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 03:49 PM
it isnt ?
****
whats the contols setup like though?

cvking
09-18-2001, 03:50 PM
i tried and it doesnt let you, atleast for me i didnt

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 03:51 PM
k go to my thread that says xbox online cancelled
or somethin liek that

cvking
09-18-2001, 03:52 PM
ok

Xboxmaster2001
09-18-2001, 05:02 PM
there is a 3rd party developing a mouse and kb when i find out which i ill let you know

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 05:03 PM
u sure about the keyboard things cuz microsoft said that in substitute fo rthe keyboard they're doin the head set thing

cvking
09-18-2001, 05:04 PM
headset will kick ass, talking to people in real time!

Xboxmaster2001
09-18-2001, 05:05 PM
ya but it dosnt mean you need to type the kb is good for like HL and stuff but you use th head set to communicate

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 05:05 PM
yeah but u might not understand some guys like they might be mumbles
and how would u be able to create things like game names do u speak and it s like u talk it types?

cvking
09-18-2001, 05:06 PM
i was wondering about that! if there is like 10 people playing a game how could you understand what someone was saying??
there will probably be chatrooms

Xboxmaster2001
09-18-2001, 05:11 PM
ok room names would be most likly text and talking someone made a statment about getting mad at dieing in unreal championship and being able to yell at all 32 ppl but i see what your saying 32 ppl talking at once would be chaos so you can prolly select a name from a menu and talk to them only or somthing kinda like a privite message...

cvking
09-18-2001, 05:12 PM
yeah allie chat like in starcraft

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 05:13 PM
that would be really crazy talkin to 32 people at once:D

cvking
09-18-2001, 05:17 PM
not with allie chat, which means only talking to yur allies

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 05:19 PM
yeah but still like 18 people
but with those shooters u dont need to talk cuz its 1 for all but in starcrafy and stratedgy games u gotta talk to each other a lot so u both attack at same time instead of seperate

cvking
09-18-2001, 05:40 PM
good point but alot of people will still talk not about strategies but trash

CodeScribe
09-18-2001, 06:11 PM
Just to comment on Exec's question, I had the chance to playtest Halo a few weeks ago and it was very easy to get used to the controls and handle things like run/strafe/jump/shoot all at once. In fact, I found it much easeir to do with a controller than I've ever had with a keyboard/mouse. Of course, I prefer console games over PC games and am much better with controllers in general.

Badlittlemonkey
09-18-2001, 08:44 PM
did u play it at E3 or on that van thats goin on tour

CodeScribe
09-22-2001, 09:21 PM
I played it in Bungie Studio's playtest room.

cvking
09-22-2001, 09:35 PM
sweet

sinizuh
09-23-2001, 01:20 AM
code, ****. how did you score a trip to the test room? :\

btw, Goldeneye was easy with the controller because you never had to aim up or down. in Halo, you have to aim up, down, left, right, back, front and all inbetween. good thing for autoaim... but in hard difficulty, it's must likely disabled

Maxthndr
09-23-2001, 10:40 AM
lol, you're all missing the point of the headset! you talk, it types. That's all! You won't have people's voices popping up! None of that! They made the headset so you don't have to use the on-screen keyboards they have. But I really think they should make a keyboard accessory for xbox.

Badlittlemonkey
09-23-2001, 12:40 PM
ohh....
guess we were wrong

Xboxmaster2001
09-23-2001, 02:03 PM
what...? how can it do that it would not understand the voices all people talk different sorry to say I dont agree...

Big_Bad_Munky
09-23-2001, 02:09 PM
i would have to dissagree as well,

Big_Bad_Munky
09-23-2001, 02:19 PM
Reasons to get an xbox
#62 read that for headset reference
read #61 too

sinizuh
09-23-2001, 03:35 PM
i'd rather use a keyboard than a voice command... so during late night halo gaming, i don't wake people up by scream "ENEMY SPOTED! FLUSH THEM OUT! AHHHHH!!!"... well, i guess you don't have to scream, but the keyboard would be better (for me)

Badlittlemonkey
09-23-2001, 04:36 PM
so when ur wannna tell ur team that u found someone is that the point where u drop ur controller type it on your keyboard look back at the screen pick up your contoller and find urself layin in a pool of blood?

the headset would be outta the way so u dont have to stall anything

Maxthndr
09-23-2001, 11:08 PM
No, don't u ever see the headsets for computers? They program your voice by making you read stories. That way it recognizes which sounds you make go with which words. They'll probably save that on the HD and you'll be able to play perfectly!

sinizuh
09-24-2001, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Badlittlemonkey
so when ur wannna tell ur team that u found someone is that the point where u drop ur controller type it on your keyboard look back at the screen pick up your contoller and find urself layin in a pool of blood?

the headset would be outta the way so u dont have to stall anything

1) i don't look at the keyboard when i type.
2) i type pretty fast
3) you can set binds which with one button you can have half your team to flank out the enemies as the others set up the sniper nest... well, hopefuly it will allow multitask binds.


They'll probably save that on the HD and you'll be able to play perfectly!

yea, but you have to wait and do their stupid hundred storys before the it understands. and then saves its useless data on the HD.

i'd rather just hit a key, then talk into a headset... sure it would be cool, but i'd rather waste my money on something useful (like game or DVD kit)

DOOM
09-24-2001, 09:15 AM
It's Going To Take Time To Get Used To Playing FPS Games with out the o'le Keyboard & Mouse...
But B4 I Had a PC I Used To Play DOOM On My PS1 And Used To Rock! I Guess in time They Will Release a third party KB & M or some kind of new controler...
I'm Sure I'll get used to it until then....
I also think that the realtime voice comand will rock... Not to mention its other uses...

Exec
09-24-2001, 11:47 AM
Aehm Doom isnt very three dimensional. But todays shooters use 360 degrees in all directions. That's quite a difference to just left and right. And I don't care about the headset. This thread was supposed for keyboard and mouse. Microsoft denies to make a keyboard and mouse. Maybe third party yes but it's a console. I don't want a keyboard for that (am I sure??!!). I have my doubts that you can play a "3D"-Shooter smoothly with only a controller. But it makes no difference. I will buy Halo with the XBox and test it.

DOOM
09-24-2001, 12:54 PM
Whats So One dimentional about what I said as compared to yout comment? You Just Reidorated My Post...
I Will Use A Keyboard If That is The Best Way To Controll A FPS Game... But, Like I said They Will probablyMake A Special Controll For It & Thats fine to. Eather way I'll Learn To Use whatever controll they come up with!!!
Got To be Open To new things dude, Flexible!

Exec
09-24-2001, 03:09 PM
Ok you are right there isnt much of a difference in aiming just left and right or additional up and down. As I said. I will buy it anyways and if its just for testing the control. =)

Badlittlemonkey
09-24-2001, 03:41 PM
you said sinizuh that
1) i don't look at the keyboard when i type.

Well,
it dont matter if u look at the keyboard when u type youll have ur hands on the keybord and off the controller

addict733
09-24-2001, 03:49 PM
once i played unreal tourniment for playstatin 2 with a controller. lol it was a freakin joke. if u wanted to get head shots u would have to use auto aim.

Exec
09-24-2001, 03:59 PM
Where is the fun when you have to use autoaim? I don't want autoaim.

Xboxmaster2001
09-24-2001, 04:26 PM
I lay unreal for the dreamcast and I get headshots all the time o ya and whats w/o a keyboard

Badlittlemonkey
09-24-2001, 05:31 PM
microsoft doesnt want to make a keyboard and mouse cuz its not a PC

Xboxmaster2001
09-24-2001, 06:16 PM
neither is DC or PS2 but they have KB's and mice:D

sinizuh
09-24-2001, 06:25 PM
i want the Power Glove for Xbox :D!

keyboard on your hand! woot!