i just got DSL for xboxlive and have a few questions

[DZNUTZ]

as i said...i ordered a years worth of dsl and the proper equipment just so i could whoop ya'll up on xboxlive!!!

i have recieved the equipment package in the mail and i have a few questions.

the DSL service i got is provided through SBC.....and i belive it includes a free earthlink account(s?) ...and i have yet to begin installing the filters and such.....and the only comp in the house so far is my Sony laptop model # PCG-FX290. so here are my questions...

1. i'm oviously gonna wanna also take advantage of downloading net content faster on my laptop......but from what i think is included in the dsl package...it looks like the equipment is for a desktop pc.....do i need anything special for my model laptop....or is it built in...how can i find out. ( or maybe some of u tech heads out there could find out for me ;) )

2. i use aol as my isp.....will i still be able to use dsl speeds with aol...or only the earthlink isp that comes with the dsl deal( i'm guessing aol will work...but i'd like to verify)

thanx in advance for the help ....and i'm sho i'll have more ?'s in the near future:)

[Casper]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
as i said...i ordered a years worth of dsl and the proper equipment just so i could whoop ya'll up on xboxlive!!!

i have recieved the equipment package in the mail and i have a few questions.

the DSL service i got is provided through SBC.....and i belive it includes a free earthlink account(s?) ...and i have yet to begin installing the filters and such.....and the only comp in the house so far is my Sony laptop model # PCG-FX290. so here are my questions...

1. i'm oviously gonna wanna also take advantage of downloading net content faster on my laptop......but from what i think is included in the dsl package...it looks like the equipment is for a desktop pc.....do i need anything special for my model laptop....or is it built in...how can i find out. ( or maybe some of u tech heads out there could find out for me ;) )

2. i use aol as my isp.....will i still be able to use dsl speeds with aol...or only the earthlink isp that comes with the dsl deal( i'm guessing aol will work...but i'd like to verify)

thanx in advance for the help ....and i'm sho i'll have more ?'s in the near future:)

DZ, what up boy? OK, I am about to go to lunch, but I will do a check on it for you while I'm eating....

First things first, is this your laptop? (http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/home/vaio/notebookmodels/pcg-fx290_specs.shtml)

[OppiumNitrates]

u need an Ethernet card for your Laptop . . .

AOHell will work with DSL just set up a new location at the sign on screen . . .



BTW how do u plan on splitting the wire??? or will u switch the cable from ur comp to your xbox when u want to go online??

[MOrgE]

To answer your first question, i believe what they mean by "PC Version" is that they are sending you a PCI network card. PCI meaning the port-like thingy that it plugs into.
Laptops don't support PCI. They support PCMCIA cards. So in order to have a network connection on your laptop, it either needs a built-in LAN jack, or ya have to buy a PCMCIA network card...

Secondly, i dont think you can use AOL with your DSL. You have to go with a provider that supports DSL which looks to me like its Earthlink... but i could be wrong..

hope that helps...

[MOrgE]

Originally posted by OppiumNitrates


AOHell will work with DSL just set up a new location at the sign on screen . . .


hmmmmmmmmmm... i thought AOL was dialup only...
:confused:

and by the looks of it DZ, your laptop has a built-in Network card... so your in the clear :D

[DZNUTZ]

wow..thanx for the fast respones ....

yes casper that appears to be my notebook....only difference..and i'm not sho if this matters (probably not) is that i'm using proffesional XP...not the OS it came with.

[Chaotic]

First off it sounds like you will need to buy a PCMCIA NIC card for your laptop. Secondly get rid of AOL it's junk. AOL will work with DSL because it doesn't care if your dial-up or broadband as long as it sees a connection to the web it will work. You will just have to use TCP/IP instead of Dial-up adapter.


What i would do is buy a Linksys 4 port DSL/Cable router and hook your DSL into the router the your Laptop and your xbox into the built in 4 port switch.

[Chaotic]

Ok well after reading the specs you already have an intergrated NIC so just plug an RJ-45 (Cat5 Straight Through ) cable into the 4 port switch and you should be set.

So for future growth if you wanna hook upto the internet just plug a CAT 5 cable from the 4 port switch into your device.

[DZNUTZ]

man ..once again i'm shown y this site and its members are so tight... thanx for all the advice fellas:D

some of these terms/equipment is somewhat foreign to me...so if ya'll can recommend some of the products (ie....what manufactuer, what model #....etc etc etc..) where i can purchase em and a rough guesstimate of what i should be paying...as always...it would be greatly appreciated.

also if anyone has aoHEll ( as ya'll referering to it as ..LOL) if ya could pm me you screen name...so in the future i can try to IM u if i have any imediate questions.

[Chaotic]

Get a linksys 4 port Cable/DSL router model # BEFSX41 I think this is the model with the built in Firewall which is something you will want. The price ranges anywhere from 79.99 to 179.99 depending on what model you buy.


My AIM name is DROSLS11LE


later

[Ninja Scroll]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
as i said...i ordered a years worth of dsl and the proper equipment just so i could whoop ya'll up on xboxlive!!!

i have recieved the equipment package in the mail and i have a few questions.

the DSL service i got is provided through SBC.....and i belive it includes a free earthlink account(s?) ...and i have yet to begin installing the filters and such.....and the only comp in the house so far is my Sony laptop model # PCG-FX290. so here are my questions...

1. i'm oviously gonna wanna also take advantage of downloading net content faster on my laptop......but from what i think is included in the dsl package...it looks like the equipment is for a desktop pc.....do i need anything special for my model laptop....or is it built in...how can i find out. ( or maybe some of u tech heads out there could find out for me ;) )

2. i use aol as my isp.....will i still be able to use dsl speeds with aol...or only the earthlink isp that comes with the dsl deal( i'm guessing aol will work...but i'd like to verify)

thanx in advance for the help ....and i'm sho i'll have more ?'s in the near future:)

Yo DZ, what a coincendence homie! I was just calling up earthlink yesterday so I could get het details on getting connected to DSL since im getting a Laptop the end of August.

As for your questions.

1. you can use the DSL kit they sent you for your PC or Laptop, and like someone already said, you will need the Ethernet 10/100 card to connect which should come with your laptop. Or you can just get one at Best Buy or something for a few beans.

2. As far as I know you have to have an Earthlink account like you XBA Icon does in order to connect. It wont work with an AOL account. You will need to order a DSL kit from them in order to do so. And until Earthlink, AOL will charge you for the DSL Equipment.
Maybe im wrong, but I doubt it!:D

Also did they ask you about your phone line? Who do you pay your phone bill to? Cause mine is Verizon and they will have to run a line through your phone line at home in order to hook up.
Da dude yesterday told me I it would take up to 2-4 weeks for Verizon to clear my line and send me my DSL kit.

Hey, what kinda deal you get? The 6 months for $39.95?
You know there is a 12 month commitement right? After that 6 months it's $49.95 a month.
How about that, it's like buying a Xbox game every month without having one!:o

[DZNUTZ]

i got the deal where the kit and the installation is free....i year contract. i think 50 bones a month:(

anywho..it will be worth it...me and u gotta team up on some games and put the smackdown on others and represent xba ninja!;)

guess i'll call and try to find out about the whole aol thingy since theres conflicting answers here.

thanx 4 all da help ....keep it comming

[OppiumNitrates]

u can deffinalty use DSL with AOL . . .

and unless u need 4 connection to the internet i would only get a 2 port router/switch . . . . but stay with LinkSys they r the best and easiest products . . . . u should get on XbConnect too its loads of fun

best price is prob best buy or circut city got mine for $80 and it was a 4 port

[Chaotic]

They dont make a 2 port linksys router with switch.

It's considered a 1 port WAN, LAN without switch.

Just get the 4 port for future expansion.

[TEA]

But I heard Cable is better,Which is cheaper and which DSL/Cable service is the cheapest?THNX give me some suggestions and your DSL/Cable provider. THNX again

[DZNUTZ]

yo tea.....i'm pretty sho it all depends on where u live in terms of pricing.

i heard cable is generally faster...but on the other hand...their was a thread a few days ago discussing how many cable companies are thinking aobut putting bandwith limitation on the customers...ie....download over a specified amount and you'll have to pay extra! i don't think this applies to dsl.


btw...big shout out to casper..yet another cool ash xba member who went out of his way to do a lil research and help a me out.


so far it looks as if i'm getting the following...

Belkin 14 Ft. Pro Series RJ-45 Shielded CAT-5e Patch Cable
Model: A3L791-14-YLW-S

14' yellow, snagless cable connects a PC with an Ethernet 10/100/1000 Base-T card directly to a 10/100/1000 Base-T faceplate, hub or patch cable. Transmission speeds up to 1000 Mbps. Gold-plated copper contacts.

and

Linksys EtherFast 4-Port Cable/DSL Router
Model: BEFSR41

Got a cable or DSL modem? Then you need this router. It offers high-speed connections from every station on your system, all from the same IP address. Includes a built-in firewall.

i'm told thats pretty much all i need...feel free to reply with agreements,comments and so forth....

btw..thanx again and big ups to casper and the rest of the xba's

[DZNUTZ]

YESSSS..after 4 or 5 painful hours...i'm finally up and running on dsl...i still need to do the router and cat cables...but thats tommorow!!!

[Chaotic]

good to hear bro.

Are you dynamic or statically assigned?

or are you PPoE?

[Casper]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
YESSSS..after 4 or 5 painful hours...i'm finally up and running on dsl...i still need to do the router and cat cables...but thats tommorow!!!

Good deal my brotha ! :) I'm going into work now, so toss me an IM and let me know how it went...and what else you have...peace :cool:

[DZNUTZ]

hey mentor..i'm PPPoE i belive.....(yes 3 P's)
casper..i'll drop u a line in a lil while....bizy as fiznuck here today at work.


by the way this is what i picked up but haven't installed....

1 linksys etherfast cable/dsl router w/4 port switch model BEFSR41 ver.2 - paid 89.99

i also picked up 2 7ft 2.1m CAT6 network cables made by bilken....i think i paid 15.00 for each of em...30 total

tell me if i got the right stuff...can i got 14 days to return anything opened or unopened.

[Chaotic]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
hey mentor..i'm PPPoE i belive.....(yes 3 P's)
casper..i'll drop u a line in a lil while....bizy as fiznuck here today at work.


by the way this is what i picked up but haven't installed....

1 linksys etherfast cable/dsl router w/4 port switch model BEFSR41 ver.2 - paid 89.99

i also picked up 2 7ft 2.1m CAT6 network cables made by bilken....i think i paid 15.00 for each of em...30 total

tell me if i got the right stuff...can i got 14 days to return anything opened or unopened.

right PPPoE :rolleyes:

anyways i would return your cat6 and get cat5.

Cat6 gives you a ninth fiber channel and is useless in your case.

[DZNUTZ]

it might be usless now...but possibly useful in the future right?

i mean ..its not gonna have any negative effect whatso ever correct? its only a few dollars difference from a cat5

[OppiumNitrates]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ


1 linksys etherfast cable/dsl router w/4 port switch model BEFSR41 ver.2 - paid 89.99


i got that exact same model . . . nice price u got too BTW . . . .

if u plan on playing on XbC and u need help configuring that thing lettme know i have helped a bunch of people with that model it really easy to use . . .

[Kev Van Dam]

u have to CALL AOL and tell em' u got a new connection and u have DSL then u only pay like 9.95$ a month for AOL since ur not using AOL dialup phonenumbers and stuff ur using another connection thru another ISP.

[DZNUTZ]

k..heres the isp situation

i currently have unlimited dial up aol
and
unlimited broadband sbcglobal

now my house has broad band...but my work only has dial up

what i'm planning on doing (if possible and depending if its free or how cheap it is) is making it possible to use both aol and sbcglobal at work via dial up, and at home via broadband.


any comments?

and i'm sho i'll need someones help for xboxconnect and my router later.:(

[Casper]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
it might be usless now...but possibly useful in the future right?

i mean ..its not gonna have any negative effect whatso ever correct? its only a few dollars difference from a cat5

Yo man, good deal. Stick with the CAT 6, it really doesn't matter, but since you got it, screw it, there's no sense of returning it. CAT 6 hasn't really been "announced" as the next step in cable yet, so it's not real popular, but it sure does the trick.

So what up with work man...I'm sitting here doin help desk and your stuck tryin to pimp some bonds huh? Ouch babe, must suck...but when I go to lunch in a few, I'll have a brew for ya...dam I love working in IT :p

:cool:

[Casper]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
k..heres the isp situation

i currently have unlimited dial up aol
and
unlimited broadband sbcglobal

now my house has broad band...but my work only has dial up

what i'm planning on doing (if possible and depending if its free or how cheap it is) is making it possible to use both aol and sbcglobal at work via dial up, and at home via broadband.


any comments?

and i'm sho i'll need someones help for xboxconnect and my router later.:(

Yo DZ, keep them both if you can. You never know when your gonna need the dial-up, especially if you use it at work. Also, you get some "extra" features with high-speed AOL (you can use AOL at home with the broadband). So stick with it....how much are they gettin ya for it anyways? :)

[DZNUTZ]

yo casper...jump on AIM...i don't quite get your ?

i'm deffinately planning on keeping both isp's..(cuz i don't pay for my aol;) )...but i need to know how i can configure em.

[Ninja Scroll]

Originally posted by TEA
But I heard Cable is better,Which is cheaper and which DSL/Cable service is the cheapest?THNX give me some suggestions and your DSL/Cable provider. THNX again

I heard from numerous amounts of peeps that Cable is better than DSL, but Cable is not available in my area as DSL is.
Both cost da same, so your not going wrong with either choice.
As long as you get dial-up out of your life, you will be a happy gamer!;)

[Hugh_Jass]

Cable isn't always better than DSL. It really depends on your provider.

[Genocide]

Originally posted by TheMentorsXbox
Get a linksys 4 port Cable/DSL router model # BEFSX41 I think this is the model with the built in Firewall which is something you will want. The price ranges anywhere from 79.99 to 179.99 depending on what model you buy.


My AIM name is DROSLS11LE


later

Hehe... I've got the LinkSys 4 port Cable/DSL router with built in firewall model #BEFSR41v.2. It's a great router, got mine for $99. It works great for me. if you need any help with the new firmware version: 4.7 AIM me it's Pyrodude0911
[version 4.7 includes extra feature like: Choose Connection Type: PPPoE, Obtain IP automatically, Static IP, RAS (for Sing Tel Users), and PPTP.]

EDIT: I replied before I saw the second page of the thread. Seems like a lot of ppl have that model. I forgot to mention.... I can't get mine to work with XBConnect:rolleyes:

And is PPoE where you have to log onto your broadband? Isn't it annoying?

[[[DA]]L{}GIC{R}]

GET BROADBAND! I have RCN west coast service with 5229 download and 742 Upload it is excellent.

[BigGamer X]

Originally posted by Genocide


Hehe... I've got the LinkSys 4 port Cable/DSL router with built in firewall model #BEFSR41v.2. It's a great router, got mine for $99. It works great for me. if you need any help with the new firmware version: 4.7 AIM me it's Pyrodude0911
[version 4.7 includes extra feature like: Choose Connection Type: PPPoE, Obtain IP automatically, Static IP, RAS (for Sing Tel Users), and PPTP.]

EDIT: I replied before I saw the second page of the thread. Seems like a lot of ppl have that model. I forgot to mention.... I can't get mine to work with XBConnect:rolleyes:

And is PPoE where you have to log onto your broadband? Isn't it annoying? Yes I have PPPoE and it really suck's. You have to "login", and with xbox live this could suck. They better have software for this, because #1, I want to get on xbox live! #2, I don't want to have to turn on my pc everytime I play xbox live!:mad: