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lefiend
08-16-2002, 04:04 PM
hi, i need to buy some crossover cable, and i was wondering if i should buy the regular cat5 or some cat5e enhanced one
what is the difference between the 2??
is it worth the extra like 20 bucks for the enhanced one??
thanks
peejay2288
08-16-2002, 04:10 PM
Cat 5 is just used for regular bb/internet. If you don't have gigabit network ethernet just go ahead and get Cat5. Cat-5e is just for if you have Gigabit Ethernet. It would be a waste of money if you have regular ethernet and buy Cat-5e. Just go with the regular one.:)
lefiend
08-16-2002, 05:06 PM
awesome, thanks bro!:)
Professor Kaos
08-16-2002, 06:06 PM
so i can get one of these cables instead of a router/switch/hub??
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
Cat 5 is just used for regular bb/internet. If you don't have gigabit network ethernet just go ahead and get Cat5. Cat-5e is just for if you have Gigabit Ethernet. It would be a waste of money if you have regular ethernet and buy Cat-5e. Just go with the regular one.:)
Cat5e is not for gigabit. Cat6 is gigabit
Cat5 = 100MB per sec
Cat5e= 350MB per Sec
cat 6= gigabit status.
I personally use cat5e so that even with line interferance, and noise my connection will stay as close to 100mb persec as possible.
NOTE: Using cat5e+ cables will not let u experience speed over 100MB per sec. The Hardware has to support speeds over 100MB per sec.
peejay2288
08-16-2002, 06:39 PM
Yea and how old are you? 15? I had a Microsoft Certified Engineer (dad) tell me, plus I did research. Do not listen to him lefiend. His info is void .;)
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
Yea and how old are you? 15? I had a Microsoft Certified Engineer (dad) tell me, plus I did research. Do not listen to him lefiend. His info is void .;)
peejay, you really need to give it a rest.... I'll be 19 august 28th. Plus I'm cisco certified. Just because your father is "so called" Microsoft Certified I'm telling you what I know from what I do day by day. I'm paid not to mess up. Keep your lil misinformative comments to yourself. LOL calling me 15,but here you are calling names.........
You want proof of my info about CAT cable ratings? just go here http://www.dslreports.com/faq/2843
its all in black and white.. hope you can read.....
peejay2288
08-16-2002, 08:07 PM
You were trying to say the same thing as me but you screwed up when you said. If you appologize I will accept. And cisco certified? You're still 18...how can you get cisco certified that quick. I don't like listening to liars.
BTW: When I looked at your profile earlier it said "1986"
Now it says "1983" nice try...
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
You were trying to say the same thing as me but you screwed up when you said. If you appologize I will accept. And cisco certified? You're still 18...how can you get cisco certified that quick. I don't like listening to liars.
BTW: When I looked at your profile earlier it said "1986"
Now it says "1983" nice try...
hmmm I was certified right out of highschool. Again, only post with info you know, and not what u make up.....
peejay2288
08-16-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by XboxDragoon
hmmm I was certified right out of highschool. Again, only post with info you know, and not what u make up.....
Continue on lying. I looked in your profile before I assumed that you were 15 and it said "1986." Now your trying to give me this bull that you're really "almost 19" and was certified out of high school.
Originally posted by XboxDragoon
Cat5e is not for gigabit. Cat6 is gigabit
Cat5 = 100MB per sec
Cat5e= 350MB per Sec
cat 6= gigabit status.
I personally use cat5e so that even with line interferance, and noise my connection will stay as close to 100mb persec as possible.
NOTE: Using cat5e+ cables will not let u experience speed over 100MB per sec. The Hardware has to support speeds over 100MB per sec.
Cat 5e does gigabit just fine...I'm doing it right now. There's no difference in 5e and 6. At least that's what I learned in my Cisco CCSE class.
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
Continue on lying. I looked in your profile before I assumed that you were 15 and it said "1986." Now your trying to give me this bull that you're really "almost 19" and was certified out of high school.
bull huh??? look, go here http://chesterfield.k12.va.us/Instruction/Curriculum/cpr_index/Information%20Technology/A+_Cisco_1&2/Overview245.pdf
thats the website for the technical center at my high school. They offer Cisco 1 and 2, plus A+ training. I started in 11th grade, and I completed it when I graduated, June 18th 02. Anything else u wanna know??????
Originally posted by Playya
so i can get one of these cables instead of a router/switch/hub??
It depends what you want to do. If you just want to hook up two Xbox's together, then yes. A standard crossover cable will work.
But if you're wanting to go Live, you'll need a broadband router.
Originally posted by XboxDragoon
bull huh??? look, go here http://chesterfield.k12.va.us/Instruction/Curriculum/cpr_index/Information%20Technology/A+_Cisco_1&2/Overview245.pdf
thats the website for the technical center at my high school. They offer Cisco 1 and 2, plus A+ training. I started in 11th grade, and I completed it when I graduated, June 18th 02. Anything else u wanna know??????
If this is true, it's un-freaking-believable! We only had one computer at our high school when I graduated...a big Apple //e! Now they are doing Cisco classes in high school?? Unreal. We've come a long way!
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Zion
If this is true, it's un-freaking-believable! We only had one computer at our high school when I graduated...a big Apple //e! Now they are doing Cisco classes in high school?? Unreal. We've come a long way!
I agree. I remember back when I was in the 6th, our school of 10000+ had only 1 computer lab with about 20 computers, enough for only one class at a time. The technical center is located next to my High school, but schools from all over the county go there for classes. here is the page for the tech center http://chesterfield.k12.va.us/Instruction/Curriculum/cpr_index/tech_center.htm
But back to the topic of the thread, your best bet is to go with Cat5e, and get a router. you won't see the cat5e rated speed of 350MB, but you'll come closer to 100MB on the lan side with cat5e then you will with just Cat5. Cat5e will tolorate interference better then cat5.
peejay2288
08-16-2002, 08:43 PM
Ok maybe you're not lying. But it's still weird how your birthyear changed from "1986" to "1983". But anywayz Even Zion said it. Cat-5e works just fine with gigabit network....where-as you said "Cat5e = 350 MB per sec" and "Cat6 = gigabit status."
XboxDragoon
08-16-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
Ok maybe you're not lying. But it's still weird how your birthyear changed from "1986" to "1983". But anywayz Even Zion said it. Cat-5e works just fine with gigabit network....where-as you said "Cat5e = 350 MB per sec" and "Cat6 = gigabit status."
peejay i never said Cat5e wouldn't work with gigabit. I just said Cat6 is marketed for gigabit.
lefiend
08-17-2002, 09:27 AM
ok, so both will work, but do i really need the cat5e??
will it make a difference in how fast things are?
(im only using cable internet, so its not no t3 or anything!)
Hugh_Jass
08-17-2002, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by lefiend
ok, so both will work, but do i really need the cat5e??
will it make a difference in how fast things are?
(im only using cable internet, so its not no t3 or anything!)
For the purposes of XBOX Live (or any Internet connection you're likely to have in the next five years) regular CAT5 is just fine. CAT5E won't make a bit of difference.
(BTW--regular CAT5 could handle at least two T3 lines with no loss risk)
xboxtito
08-17-2002, 11:05 AM
Dragon,
I just looked at the link you posted regarding the cisco training. It says it is a one year course. You started in 11th grade? Did you fail and have to retake the course? Also, it in no way states that it will prepare you for certification.
Nice try.
peejay2288
08-17-2002, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by xboxtito
Dragon,
I just looked at the link you posted regarding the cisco training. It says it is a one year course. You started in 11th grade? Did you fail and have to retake the course? Also, it in no way states that it will prepare you for certification.
Nice try.
Thanx, Good one tito. I should have looked at it myself but I'm too lazy.:)
XboxDragoon
08-17-2002, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by xboxtito
Dragon,
I just looked at the link you posted regarding the cisco training. It says it is a one year course. You started in 11th grade? Did you fail and have to retake the course? Also, it in no way states that it will prepare you for certification.
Nice try.
Try reading it again..... It says A one year 3.0 Credit course includes instruction in A+ and the "FIRST TWO SEMESTERS OF FOUR SEMESTERS OF CISCO NETWORKING".
hmm... now two things become apparent about you.
1. You have no idea about how high school semesters work.
2. You can't read worth squat....
tito, you spend 2 semesters in each grade dumbass.. the first two in 11th grade, then the next two in 12th grade. Your certified by the time you Graduate... and PeeJay.. give it up already....
xboxtito
08-17-2002, 07:17 PM
where does it say you will be ready for certification?????
I am such a dumbass, yet you still have no proof you are certified.
Why don't you quash all speculation once and for all and post a copy of your certification?????
peejay2288
08-17-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by XboxDragoon
Try reading it again..... It says A one year 3.0 Credit course includes instruction in A+ and the "FIRST TWO SEMESTERS OF FOUR SEMESTERS OF CISCO NETWORKING".
hmm... now two things become apparent about you.
1. You have no idea about how high school semesters work.
2. You can't read worth squat....
tito, you spend 2 semesters in each grade dumbass.. the first two in 11th grade, then the next two in 12th grade. Your certified by the time you Graduate... and PeeJay.. give it up already....
lefeind already got his info from me, zion, and huge@ss. So let me tell you this. I give you a dragon and an xbox and you can shove them up your @ss!
XboxDragoon
08-17-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by peejay2288
lefeind already got his info from me, zion, and huge@ss. So let me tell you this. I give you a dragon and an xbox and you can shove them up your @ss!
and that is supposed to mean what? sad.... I tell you, just sad....:o
peejay2288
08-17-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by XboxDragoon
and that is supposed to mean what? sad.... I tell you, just sad....:o
@sswipe...
lefiend
08-17-2002, 10:00 PM
thanks you guys!
i got the cables, and im ready for some halo online style
peace!
xboxtito
08-17-2002, 10:44 PM
Hey Dragon where is the proof? aren't u the one that lied about the xbox beta test nuff said.
XboxDragoon
08-17-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by xboxtito
Hey Dragon where is the proof? aren't u the one that lied about the xbox beta test nuff said.
no genius, I never said anything about xbox live. Why prove something that I do everyday for a living to somebody that doesnt mean anything to me or have any impact on my life.
"A wise man told me..... dont' argue with fools"
xboxtito
08-17-2002, 11:02 PM
My my mistake it was xcoderedx. you don't want to prove it b/c there is no proof.
mrmp3
08-17-2002, 11:31 PM
Will there be any way to just connect my Xbox for xbox live (not xbconnect) using just a Patch cable and not the USB/Crossover method? Signing off...
XboxDragoon
08-17-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by mrmp3
Will there be any way to just connect my Xbox for xbox live (not xbconnect) using just a Patch cable and not the USB/Crossover method? Signing off...
yeah, just plug it directly to your cable/dsl modem and config thru the xbox.
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