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Jarvis
09-15-2002, 01:49 AM
Guy I know from TXB forums (spaceghost) is an xbox rep.

here's what he had to say (before his thread got locked for some reason) read this quick, it might be getting deleted soon.

""
Hey all!

I'm back from Xbox Conference, and I've got a thousand things to tell you. (and a hundred things I can't tell you. Sorry 'bout those.) I"m exhausted, so I might have to split this into multiple threads or hold some until tomorrow. We'll see.

Now, to squash some rumors.
First, no news about Rare, so nothing one way or the other.
But I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that MS is NOT buying Sega. Sega is doing some bytchin' stuff for all consoles, but what they're doing for Xbox is over and above, fer sure. Again, there's stuff I can't say, but Panzer isn't delayed and it looked freakin' phenominal. I saw a lot of games on $6000 widescreen plasma televisions, and Panzer was absolutely beautiful.
Brute Force and Xbox Live are also on track for their current release dates, so any news of their delay is erroneous.

Since I mentioned Sega, let's talk about them for a second.
House of the Dead rocked and it looked great. A third party is releasing a light gun supposedly within days of the game release, and Sega is relying on their accessory's avialability. The game can be played with a controller, as we saw it done at the conference.
Panzer was beautiful, and the reps who checked it out said it was huge fun. I played vey little of anything, because I don't want to spoil a game by playing an early build or only playing it for a few minutes, which isn't really enough time to get the "hang" of it.
Toe Jam & Earl looks great and is hilareous. It and Panzer are both on my top ten list of games to get this year.
Sega GT2002 is out, obviously. There's a demo coming to OXM, as you've been promised for a while, as well as other surprises. That's all you'll get out of me. If you like racing at all, you need this game. Don't delay.
We also saw footage of NBA and NHL 2K2, both of which will have LIVE support and ONLY LIVE support.
No news about JSRFII. They were "content" with the sales of the first one, and it was not discontinued because of poor sales or anything. There's just plenty in the pipeline to support the sales for a while, so there's no need for them to make any mroe right now. Also no news about a Sonic Xbox game.

(By the way, to my knowledge, there are no games that are "LIVE ONLY" games. All games are "Live ENABLED", meaning they have complete, single player game experiences plus LIVE play. So don't pass on a game because it says "LIVE".

BAM showed Chase-Hollywood Stunt Driver and Reign of Fire. Chase looks like a more-fun version of Wreckless, and is a LOT better than the totally mud-sucky "Stuntman." Reign of Fire is based on the movie,a nd after completing the game as a human, you can play as the dragon. The dragon starts as a baby and grows as you play the game. Great looking adult dragon.

Tecmo wasn't there, but we got copies of the DOA XBV calendar in another training session. Um, it's gonna be March for a long time next year.

Metro One showed off a game called Spike, kind of a Power Stone type fighter.

Infogrames/Atari showed off Unreal Tournament, Transworld Snowboarding and Superman. All three were very exciting. Unreal will be huge, of course, being the killer app for LIVE. Trans. Snow had draw distances of over a mile.

Um, I can't remember a single game UbiSoft showed off except Splinter Cell.

Let me say this.... Splinter Cell isn't a Halo "killer", because it's harder to play than Halo. It's much more mental. But it does **** that will leave you going "Crap, I didn't think a video game could even DO that! Who the hell even THOUGHT of that idea?!?"
No matter what praises you hear about Splinter Cell, ignore them. Because it's better.
It's a MGS killer for sure. The people who have even a couple of hours playing the unfinished game said it makes MGS look like a miniseries on NBC. For all intents and purposes, it IS this year's "Halo." Is that from the UbiSoft guys? No. That's from the Microsoft guys.

We saw a little of Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Malice, Rocky, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, State of Emergency (yes, with Multiplayer and more people on screen), Serious Sam, Conflice Desert Storm, The Thing (which is out), and a couple of others I forget. Sorry, I haven't even taken my stuff out of the car. Too tired.

First party stuff? I'm a believer. I believe Blinx will be huge. I wasn't sure before. I am now. I think Quantum Redshift is a beautiful thing, screaming at top speed and 60 FPS in PERFECT CLARITY. You know the podrace in EP1? It's like seeing those graphics done by the Xbox. It doesn't seem possible, but I saw it. It's amazing. NBA Inside Drive rocks. We even saw VERY brief footage of Project Gotham Racing 2. It looked to me like the reflections were real time, there's lots more cars including (I believe... I'm car stupid) a Lamborghini Countach. MechAssault was amazing, and was one of the more popular games on the playable kiosks there. Didn't see anything for Sneakers and you probably don't even care, but there's something special planned for it and Blinx that will give Mario hairballs. Kakuto Chojin looks great and the crowd loved watching it with lits of oohs, ahhs and groans as someone would get hammered. This is a fighter's fighter, with pretty much NO magic crap or turning into a fighting animal or anything non-real like that. You do have a boost ("Kakuto Chojin") that gives you extra flamboyant attacks. I did find out that it is pronounced KAH-coo-toe CHO-jin, not Kah-COO-toe like I thought. One of our presentation slides had it misspelled at Kakuto Chokin, so for the rest of the conference it was referred to as Cocatoo Chokin. Finally, Shenmue II will ship with the DVD of the movie that was released in Japan. MGM is releasing the DVD seperately for approx. $29.99, so getting it included free with the game is a deal and a half. They expect it to do very, very well, even without promotion, so with all the things they have planned for it, it will be a biggie for us.

Finally, game related, is Xbox LIVE. I can't give you numbers, but they're bigger than you think they are. How many people are playing the LIVE beta right now? Nope. There's more than that. How many people signed up for the beta? No, there were a LOT more than that. There's a ReVolt secret I can't tell you about. But most importantly, Sony's poorly orchestrated effort to get the jump on Xbox once again proved not only to screw THEM up, but it helped us out in a mega-huge way. Stores weren't convinced that anyone wanted to play consoles games online and were very restrained with their preorders. until Sony chose to undership and beat us, rather than wait and hit projections. Now, after every store has had to tell a hundred customers a day that they're out of the Sony adapter, store support for LIVE has exploded.

Xbox is green. LIVE is orange, and you will see both everywhere this season. GameCube and PS2 will be, appropriately: black, purple and blue.

Going into conference, I was convinced we were going to have a great Christmas season. Now? I'm convinced we will bring Sony to a screetching halt AND..... hurt Nintendo so bad that they might pull a Sega before next Christmas.

Is that just rep/PR bull****? No. Don't believe me? OK. A month ago, I cut off my ponytail and applied for a full time manager's job at a local retailer. I was offered the job. More money and benefits than I'm getting right now as a rep. My plan was to go to conference, and decide afterwards if I would stay or go. I haven't even been home two hours, and I can tell you that I would be a FREAKIN' IDIOT if I left Xbox now. I will be emailing the retailer tomorrow to turn down the job.

Guys, you are going to be giggling like little schoolgirls by Jan 1 with the bad ass stuff that's gonna happen. And if there's a Sony or a Nintendo rep out there reading this? My advice to you is that there's a manager's job here at a local retailer. You might be wise to consider changing careers. ""

-jarvis

xboxmaster2002
09-15-2002, 02:00 AM
good info i wish he would have some more stuff about XBL but hey i guess ill learn when i get it..

viperII
09-15-2002, 03:03 AM
I have no validity on whether this information is true or not.

But, none of this would surprise me at all if it were 1000% true. I know it is an amazing time to be a gamer and it just going to get better. I predict that Microsoft is going to revolutionize console gaming and it will just blow the socks off of everyone who gets a few minutes of viewing time in front of that little black box I bought back in November of 2002. I truly believe that Sony and Nintendo will not know what hit them within a few months of this Holiday Season.

Its a good time to be an XBOX owner / gamer, and its only going to get BETTER!


Thanks for the Post Jarvis!

DOOM
09-15-2002, 09:13 AM
Great Info!
SoOo Was BRUTE FORCE Delayed To 2K3 Or What?:eek:

mrmp3
09-15-2002, 11:52 AM
A few corrections in that. Panzer Dragoon is delayed. However that was only announced like today or yesterday so at the time this info was correct. Rare was bought by Microsoft (that 51% or 49% stock thing) and NHL2k3 is system link and Xbox Live. Go check it out at the IGNXbox preview. Other than that, that's a lot of good information I didn't know about and a lot of game I haven't heard about in a while (especially Toe Jam & Earl III ! I loved the first 2) Thanx a lot Jarvis. Signing off...

laughs
09-15-2002, 09:52 PM
My spidey sense's tell me that guy is lying.......but that don't mean anything. The important thing here is that chick Ellen Rocche....I mean ohhhhhhhhh Damn!!!!!! Shes hot!!!! :eek:

DETOX
09-15-2002, 11:49 PM
What about a golf game for LIVE, any word on MS Links or anything else?

DETOX

hook-worm J
09-16-2002, 12:28 AM
Why'd he call it Unreal Tournament?? simple mistake? maybe... reason to beleive this is all BS, could be...... You'd think an Xbox rep wouldn't get the name of such a hyped up game like that wrong...

JeremyX
09-16-2002, 02:17 AM
If this guy is lying then he went through a lot of trouble making up this solid story and wasted a lot of time of his time typing up this page long post. I don't think that he's lying. He's said stuff that we all know and that is only obvious, Xbox is going to kick major ass this holiday season and in 2k3. No one can say otherwise.

Game_Geek
09-16-2002, 09:55 AM
Nope its not bs, have you seen his lastest thread, it has pictures.
Pic 1
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxsandal.jpg

Pic 2
Tecmo beach party
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxbeachvolleyball.jpg
DoA girl
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/doamy.jpg

It was too much for them. They had such a good time, they took out some energy on a helpless PS2 and GameCube. (By the way, I rescued some pieces. I have part of the case and the laser from the PS2, and the medallion from the top of the GameCube, as well as the controller sockets. The PS2 case piece rocks, with sledge hammer damage and green latex. I love souveniers!)
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/bmgps2cya.jpg

Him and Blinx
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/blinxandme.jpg
New Kiosks
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxinteractivetrainingroom.jpg
STARTER KITS!!
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxlivedisplay.jpg
IN game Splinter Cell
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxsplintercellscreen.jpg


Thats all
Link for thread Link (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?threadid=131626)
Props to SpaceGost2k2

Knight
09-16-2002, 10:04 AM
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/bmgxboxworship.jpg

http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/bmgplayinghalo.jpg

Knight
09-16-2002, 10:07 AM
Here's a new interactive. I got special permission for this pic, first time anyone's seen it. New stores and first time interactive stores will be getting this from now on. There is a Bose speaker system that connects to it, and it is optional.

http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxinteractive.jpg

http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxshenmueiiplayable.jpg

Knight
09-16-2002, 10:14 AM
http://students.olin.wustl.edu/~ehlerss/xboxsplintercelltitlescreen.jpg


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Originally posted by xboxizdope
really? I did not know that! so Microsoft is now packing in both controllers with the X-box game system? if this is true then thats great! i have thought they should be doing that since they came out with the controller S
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No. Once the Xbox with the large controllers are sold out, they're gone. Future Xboxes will ship with only the small controller. Also, the rebate program for the DVD is for the consoles with the large controller only. You will not be able to redeem the rebate on the new consoles. So if you want to save $30, don't wait.

You can tell the new consoles apart from the old ones because the ones with the small controller will have a sticker on the box that reads, "XBOX ADVANTAGE."

The large controller will still be available in its own package, for purchase as a second or additional controller.

RudedogX
09-16-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by laughs2907
My spidey sense's tell me that guy is lying.......but that don't mean anything. The important thing here is that chick Ellen Rocche....I mean ohhhhhhhhh Damn!!!!!! Shes hot!!!! :eek:

Sorry all, this guy is the real deal! I called him out once and he emailed me with all this other info and what/where he worked. He couldn't say it on the forums b/c people at TXB would have him booted (basically). The info I searched for all over the web and couldn't find, and all of the crap he said came true then.

So I'd be very shocked if spaceghost was lyin' this time. If he says this is happenin', I've gotta believe him!

Jarvis
09-16-2002, 11:54 AM
This guy is legit, he always has the best xbox insider info of anyone on the boards.

-jarvis

Knight
09-16-2002, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Jarvis
This guy is legit, he always has the best xbox insider info of anyone on the boards.

-jarvis

When is he going to sign up for a userid here??

RudedogX
09-16-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Knight


When is he going to sign up for a userid here??

He probably doesn't want to. His choice. Regardless, this guy is legit. He hasn't posted much stuff over there that wasn't.

JeremyX
09-16-2002, 03:39 PM
Can someone give me a link to the forum he goes to? :)

hook-worm J
09-16-2002, 05:38 PM
www.teamxbox.com

laughs
09-16-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Jarvis
This guy is legit, he always has the best xbox insider info of anyone on the boards.

-jarvis

ACTUALLY I AM THE BEST :cool:

JeremyX
09-16-2002, 11:17 PM
Thanks for the link. :D

sinizuh
09-16-2002, 11:47 PM
sounds too good to be true D:

/me wants a DOA Volleyball calander :(

shawn03
09-17-2002, 07:37 PM
Guys, you need to delete this thread. SpaceGhost2k was notified by some folks at MS that he doesn't need to post this stuff. They think it may get a 3rd party upset or somthing. As a result he has left TXB, and decided to stop posting. Just close this out of respect, because this guy tried to give us some info. and it wouldn't be cool for this info. to jepardize his job.

SpaceGhost2K, signing off.
Hmm...

I received a call from one of my bosses (cordial, mind you), that they had been told about some of the pictures and information I've posted on these forums. As you may know, I had a thread deleted a couple of days ago that contained information from our training conference.
While she appreciated my enthusiasm, they were concerned that some of the material might have been sensitive, either propriatory or third party, and even though I had permission directly from some of the people involved, it would still make everyone feel more confortable if the pictures were removed.

While I consider myself a huge Xbox fan, and want to tell everyone as much as I can (there's stuff I KNOW I can't), it seems that that line is more blurry that I thought.

I love this job and don't want to do anything to jeopardize it. I also don't want to do anything that might jeopardize our success in the marketplace, or our relationships with our accounts and third-party developers.

Finally, I don't want to come across as something like "the official spokesperson for Xbox," which I certainly am not. Most of you know the difference. Some of you might not.

So, as much as it pains me to do this, I have decided that it's in my and my company's best interest to refrain from visiting these forums.

I have removed the pictures and the other thread I started. If Shockwave or any of the other mods would kindly delete any other threads I started or posts I made since September 12th, I would appreciate it. I have a suck computer and it would take me the next two days what you guys can probably do in ten minutes.

I have enjoyed sharing AND LEARNING information in this place. I want you all to know that this was not a matter of anyone from my company or Microsoft or the Xbox team putting a gun to my head to knock it off or something. They asked for the pictures to be removed, and nothing more. I have made the decision on my own to go a step further and walk away from the forums.

Worst case: someone gets ahold of some misinformation I could have stopped, and it becomes gospel. The truth always gets out in the end anyway.
Best case: I get more sleep, more time with family, more time to play Xbox and don't have to worry about knowing the difference between something I can share and something I can't.

Thanks, everybody. Keep up the faith, and save those nickles and pennies. You're gonna need 'em.

Knight
09-18-2002, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by shawn03
Guys, you need to delete this thread. SpaceGhost2k was notified by some folks at MS that he doesn't need to post this stuff. They think it may get a 3rd party upset or somthing. As a result he has left TXB, and decided to stop posting. Just close this out of respect, because this guy tried to give us some info. and it wouldn't be cool for this info. to jepardize his job.


Only the Mods here can del any Topic's or post!!

Game_Geek
09-18-2002, 11:57 AM
The mods seem not to care....A call from MS should set them straight;). I PMed one of mods to ask a question about forum rules and one thread that talked about piracy on the Xbox, and they still haven't returned my PM. I think I PM shannon-XBA, shoud I've PM Jeremy?

whatsyourprob?
09-18-2002, 12:27 PM
Hey Jarvis, either you or ghost need to start a news letter for this type of info man=] forums are definatly easier, but not worth it if ghost is gonna catch some heat.

Game_Geek
09-18-2002, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by whatsyourprob?
Hey Jarvis, either you or ghost need to start a news letter for this type of info man=] forums are definatly easier, but not worth it if ghost is gonna catch some heat.

Ghost is a MS rep. Since he left TXB, he has stated that he will not share anymore Xbox information from his rep trip(s). He could lose his job if MS found out, and trust me MS monitors everything a Xbox Rep sends out.

Muhren
09-18-2002, 12:53 PM
Yes the guy seems to have 'some' new info. Hardly ground breaking. Chase is a dud.

On another note... I had to say ...

Knight - You said "Socialism(Evil) is the intermediary step before communism(More Evil) -- Some communism low life
All Democrats are Socialism pigs -- Knight" .........

Democrats = socialists !!! Democrats are right wing and Republicans are even more right wing. There seems to be no left wing politics in USofA. As for Bush ... never mind eh? UK and most of Europe have had mainstream socialist parties and governments for 80 years. It does not lead to communism. That is like saying that being a Republican leads to joining the Nazi party. Good 'ol US of A. Carry a gun and vote for a cowboy, certainly the way forward.:)

MerimacHamwich
09-18-2002, 12:59 PM
Sweet deal. I am looking forward to this year and I am now happy that I paid the 100$ canadian for the Xbox Live Beta testing kit. 2 days from now I will be playing the future.

Knight
09-18-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Muhren
Yes the guy seems to have 'some' new info. Hardly ground breaking. Chase is a dud.

On another note... I had to say ...

Knight - You said "Socialism(Evil) is the intermediary step before communism(More Evil) -- Some communism low life
All Democrats are Socialism pigs -- Knight" .........

Democrats = socialists !!! Democrats are right wing and Republicans are even more right wing. There seems to be no left wing politics in USofA. As for Bush ... never mind eh? UK and most of Europe have had mainstream socialist parties and governments for 80 years. It does not lead to communism. That is like saying that being a Republican leads to joining the Nazi party. Good 'ol US of A. Carry a gun and vote for a cowboy, certainly the way forward.:)

Democrats are left wing!!

MerimacHamwich
09-18-2002, 01:45 PM
Why are you talking politics in this thread? Why in this forum? Please Knight just stop it with your propaghanda!