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darianX
11-11-2001, 04:33 AM
Hi folks, just registered here to relay this story to all of you. Seeing that just 3 weeks ago I decided to get an xbox, I have been actively seeking out demo kiosks in my area to see one in action. Found one in a mall about 20 miles from me, walked in at 8:00PM and it was turned off. I asked the clerk if they could turn it on to see it and they said "the company policy is that it has to be turned off at 7PM". Hmm, that's odd because the PS2 demo was running (with a flat screen PC monitor..hahaha). He stated it caused so much havoc when it was running that they must shut it down at 7. Then he proceeds to launch into a tirade about how bad the graphics are on a TV and he cancelled his order and that I should buy a PS2 instead. Well, I quickly pointed out that the demo box HAD a tv attached to it, then he says "thats a microsoft tv, built just for the xbox". How ridiculous!!! Lie number 1.

Then he says the graphics will look bad if you don't use s-video or the hi-res adapter. Anything looks better with s-video for sure, however, I pointed out that the graphics chip in the xbox does full screen anti-aliasing full time so every game run has smooth edges. He said that wasn't true, only if you use the s-video cable will it look nice. Lie number 2.

He said he played Madden extensively and that the controller really blows. His poor fingers couldn't hit the buttons right and kept pushing the wrong ones. Well, any new controller will take a bit of time to get used to but after a little while you'll get the hang of it. Obviously this guy is an idiot and couldn't have played the game "extensively". Lie number 3.

I told him I was a PC gamer and this would be my first console. Well that brought a flood of standard FUD regarding the keyboard/mouse vs game controller. So I notified him that I have a Gravis Xterminator gamepad for my computer and that the xbox controller is quite similar and I don't see a problem with it at all. He basically said I was out of my mind and would hate the controls of the xbox.

Here comes the biggest lie....He said "the japanese launch of the xbox was such a failure that stores are refusing to sell them and they are sending them back to microsoft". WHAT???? I think this guy needs to stop hitting that pipe so hard. I don't think there is a date for Japan yet, but it's irrelavent anyway. After almost laughing in the poor schmuck's face, he continued on the diatribe about how it will fail, nobody will buy them and people are cancelling their orders left and right. Lies, lies and more lies.

The store was GameStop BTW, and come Monday I'm calling the store manager and possibly the regional manager to notify them that their little employee is spreading outrageous lies and trying his hardest to discourage the xbox. If he don't like the xbox, fine, but don't lie about things, ya know?

I really hope I can snag an xbox on Thursday...I believe I can because 2 stores in my area didn't take preorders and aren't really promoting it much. I'm crossing fingers and praying anyway..:)

Rancey
11-11-2001, 04:49 AM
He actually said Japanese launch was a failure? Well that may actually be true, IF IT HAD EVEN BEEN RELEASED IN JAPAN YET! I find that VERY amusing, I don't see why anybody working at a game store would discourage somebody from buying any console...isn't their job to make a sale?

eLoup
11-11-2001, 06:44 AM
Is it just me or is something up with this GameStop place? This is like the sixth story I've read tonight where GameStop employees have been slamming X-box, and done the 'ol unplug the kiosk - promote the PS2 business... I hope it's just total random coincidence, but man... seems like an awful lot of people are trying to be swayed intentionally this season to buy specifically the PS2 over X-Box...

~

eLoup
Seattle

mojo__31
11-11-2001, 08:21 AM
I think its just jealous PS2 boys. There is 1 out of 4 different employees at my Funcoland that will talk straight up about hte Xbox and not dis it unsubstantiated. Its just the guys who "had" loved there PS2's feel left behind and are trying to defend it.

benz_300sl
11-11-2001, 09:05 AM
LOL That is pathetic, wouldnt u like to pick up their playstation2 and just shove it down their throat?

Azimiza-XBA
11-11-2001, 10:25 AM
Here's another story, I was at Funcoland one time and I started teling this guy about the Xbox and how it was a better buy over PS2 and I started telling him about all the games and developer support and the people working at Funcoland were all PS2 fanboys. When I asked for a application, they straight up told me, "Sorry, no Xbox fans allowed." Ah well, I called the regional manager and got their asses fired. I got offered the job but didn't take it, I didn't wanna make a sell on PS2s. I'll go back after the Xbox releases so I can sell those like hotcakes.

dd5
11-11-2001, 10:46 AM
heres 2 storys 1 at toys r us and one at gamestop

i called toys r us to see if there xboxes where sold out becuse i hadent reserved one and the guy tells me this "you dont whant the xbox man the graphics suck you whant the gamecube and those WONT be sold out ever even on release date the gamecube has so much power over xbox and it was really big hit in japan " so then i tell the guy ...........ok........ but the only way ill buy a gamecube is if i cant find an xbox anywhere and even after that im still buying an xbox on xmas :D

now heres one at gamestop a.k.a babbges here for some odd reason anyways i go in the store the xboxes are turned off 3 store guys come up and tell me how the graphics suck and how it will be another dreamcast and such then they tell me that they unpluged it becuse they whanted SOME people to buy it and that everyone who played it then said it sucked also that everyone is cancceling there preorders and told me to buy a ps2 or a gamecube becuse they had Way better graphics and alot more power than xbox and that xbox was not even a counsel that it was just a computer put in a counsel case with a new os that all they did was take a regular mother board and modify it to fit inside of that case and they put there own os in it they told me to check xbox.com and youll see where it says intell chip and the nvida chip and all


now the same thing has happened to me at ALL the eb world and gamestop stores i have been to but the one up top they dident know i knew the manager personaly becuse i always come every week the manager told me that they had been told to do that by the company and that alot of managers are getting ****ed not so much at toys r us stores but it will happen in a funco land or ebworld aka gamestop and such this i know personally becuse i was looking for a store that had xbox and guess where I found it in a little store in a backwash part of the mall next to two food shops and they where the only ones that dident say crap like the xbox sucked and crap they actualy told me how cool it was and the guy personaly took an xbox out of one of dem brown boxes and put it in a spot in the store for me to pick up nov 15th

darianX
11-11-2001, 08:11 PM
Well, it sure sounds like Gamestop is really trying to play down the xbox...maybe they're trying to avoid a crush of people on Nov 15th, but it is odd that other people are relating similar stories. I don't get it. All I know is that I'm lining up at 2AM to be one of the first 10-20 in the door Nov 15, and walking out with one. Finally got to see it today...wow...my 1.2 GHZ Geforce3 PC suddenly looked weak....I almost drooled on the kid playing it.

kiz10
11-12-2001, 01:22 AM
Some people are just PS2 ***s which we cant help. What a shame.

jeah
11-12-2001, 01:36 AM
I hate that **** 'Microsoft' TV the xbox demos are played on. They are awefull. They give the xbox no justice whatsoever. I had that exact same TV, microsoft just glued a piece of plastic over 'Panasonic'. I just recently took that TV back to costco, the colors were horrific.

netranger6
11-12-2001, 09:33 AM
Isn't there a way we could alert MS and let them know about the crappy distributors out there? This all sounds illegal as hell, and somebody needs to lose their job, now!

scarecrow kfj
11-12-2001, 12:03 PM
I think it might be to stop the rush. The one by house only had the xbox running and they didnt say anything bad to me about it. they were wearing how ever game cube stuff. I think they are trying to push P2 because some many people are selling back there systems and that they are probably backed up big time with inventory for them... GC just might not have enough preorders sold to make quota

Robmx250
11-12-2001, 05:16 PM
I played the XBOX at target and i don't think its any better then psx2 ....graphics anyway ??? i was gonna get a game cube do you think i should get the xbox ?

scarecrow kfj
11-12-2001, 05:29 PM
first what game did you play was it on the demo 1.0?

Jason1010
11-12-2001, 05:29 PM
Oh ye of little brain.... are u trying to get flamed or something saying something like that in an XBOX forum... dang man... u are stupid....


p.s. go with xbox... then buy gamecube... and then maybe a ps2 if u really really want one....

mojo__31
11-12-2001, 05:34 PM
I wonder if Sony is offering sales spiffs to employees with each PS2 sale? It would make sense, and many companies have been known to do it. I think PS2 will be dropping in price soon. I know PS2 sales are hurting big time right now. Up until just recently the stores around here only had a few PS2's at a time, but since the Xbox and GC demos have been out, the PS2 stocks are plump full each time I go into the stores, there just not moving them. Why would someone buy the PS2 when right next to it they see the awesome graphics of the Xbox and GC and its only a few weeks away? I think its store incentives causing some of the bad sales reps attitude, that and the PS2 fanboys feel miffed. As for Gamecube preorders, the Software ETC. store said they didn't start picking up till the Xbox orders were backed up till mid December.

Marc
11-12-2001, 05:35 PM
Duh...what do you think?
The xbox will change the art of gaming for all time Plus, the gamecube discs offer less memory, which could present developers with a HUGE problem in the future.

TwizTID
11-12-2001, 06:04 PM
Maybe the guyz at GameStop are bein threatened by the Japanese mafia! LOL!

But why would they do sumthin stupid like that, I mean they can give u their opinion but to try so hard to discourage u from buyin it, is far beyond the point!

One guy at EB was quesitonin why I was gettin PGR and not DOA3, and I said that I NEED a racing game and he said "Good Point" and he didn't pursue his opinion of me gettin DOA3!

CyberBOMB
11-12-2001, 06:37 PM
Well this isnt true with all GameStops. I went to one in the Houston/Pasadena area and the store was COVERED with xbox stuff. They had a huge wall with the controllers and they had box art of future games like Bruce Lee and Max Payne. And behind their registers? More controllers, games, and memory cards. I bought 2 controllers an rf adapter and a magazine. They had trouble scanning the magazine (by the way they had NFL Fever running on the demo which was the only one you could play, no ps2 or gc demo) After waiting for them to make the magazine scan (15 minutes) they apolgized for the inconvenience. I replied "No man, thats cool, im going to come back and shop here for my Xbox games because you guys arent like GameCrazy by Gulf Pointe 30, you didnt trash what i was purchasing" they replied that they would never trash the xbox.

So im all hell yeah!
Im coming back to that store for all XBox stuff.
Screw GameCrazy in Houston Texas located at 11615 W SAM HOUSTON PKY E and their Anti Xbox butts!!

Hey administrators! lets make a sticky thread where you can list any anti xbox stores so that they dont make a dime off our beloved system.

Jason1010
11-12-2001, 06:46 PM
yeah i can vouche for bomb there... my gamespot place seems to try and sell all the systems just like they should :D

Robmx250
11-12-2001, 07:13 PM
I played abes oddworld oddeysey i think was the name ....it just wasn't that fun and the graphics were nothing to call home about...hey i'm not racist against the xbox i don't have consoles .... but getting my kid one is the idea and the game cube looks good ...what is good for kids i should say ??? and the reason i say the graphics were nothing to call home about is cause i play some pc games ....

Jason1010
11-12-2001, 07:58 PM
how old is your kid?

dd5
11-12-2001, 08:06 PM
haha me and the guys from my local game gallery ( they personaly stoed an xbox in the store for me) where laughing our asses off i was just relaxin in the store addin a few more games to my xbox bundle and some guy comes in that they should take down all the xbox stuff that itll suck badly then i ask him you wouldent happen to work at a gamespot store would you? and he says yea (big surprise) i start laughing my ass off then my friends from the store tell me that theyll give him a discount on there ps2 games (game gallerys are just these small stores self owned no big company owns em just a bunch of nutty guys)
the guy left the store and slamed the door when he said that about the discount on ps2 games :D

WynnFire
11-12-2001, 09:34 PM
What the...?? Is everybody having problems with Toys R Us?? The only real problem I had was some guy with some headset on kept coming over to me while I was playing the Xbox and told me every little detail about it. I knew everything and just listened while I played the new Munch game the first time and Fuzion Frenzy the second time. I think Sony people are idiots unless they are personally trying to sabotage their own machines. Has anyone even tried to play a PS2 on it's Flat Screen monitor? It sucks. It looks worse than a PS1 on a regular tv. Plus the controller is too small for me. My hands aren't that big and they aren't that small but, they are fine with the Xbox and Dreamcast controllers.

Of course, that's just me.

dd5
11-12-2001, 09:36 PM
mauhahaha my gx gamer tv with hdtv reciver will own :D :D :D :D :D

luvs2play
11-12-2001, 10:51 PM
Well I went to my local EB both in Seattle and Bellevue and both stores were plastered with Xbox paraphenalia. It was excellent. Played halo and it was a blast. Played for 2 hours last night around 930...so they sure didnt shut off the systems :)

eLoup
11-12-2001, 11:11 PM
Yo man, I was @ Pacifica Place in XEB Software in Downtown Seattle last night.

Played HALO for like 4 hours! W00T! dang, that was freak'n AWSOME!

I was playing co-op on normal setting with some other guys (we'd rotate playing, every hour/ two hours). Oh man, it was so fun. Some nut-case would not have anything to do with teamwork and just went mindlessly blowing away our marines. But this other guys and I on the night mission (like lvl 3, 4???) where you get sniper rifles and have to snipe a bunch of covenant - anyway, we where team-work all the way and just slowly advanced and picked off all the CoV up to the main "bowl" where the landing pad is. That was freak'n awesome. This is a must have for Xbox and Mac/PC if your on that platform. Just a great game. I think just having the ability to play Co-op like that boosts the value of it several levels ahead as to if the game did not feature this option. Played a little 1v1 DM, but with only the other guy to play with, it was kind of, "Zzzzzzzz....." Co-op was much better suited.

Controlling (using normal setting) was a little awkward. I was finally able to get minute detail controlling down very well, and did a decent enough job sniping, but in large, open firefights I suffer a little - not used to controlling with a game-pad just yet.

One other note :

Why does everyone say the controller is HUGE? I have very small hands, comparatively, and I found the controllers to be a perfect fit. I finally saw them and muttered :

"This it? I thought they where gonna be way bigger"....

Everyone's gone a little over-board with the "The X-Box is H-U-G-E" stuff... the system itself was much smaller than some of you guys make it out to be.


~

eLoup
Seattle

scarecrow kfj
11-13-2001, 10:37 AM
I have still yet to see halo *snif snif* well just a few more days

l Maximus l
11-13-2001, 01:55 PM
I work for an Electronics store...and, yes, I plan on buying my XBox there. But, I have to be a customer to buy it...and yes, I am camping outside of the store!

I have been telling people that we will have several XBoxes in stock on the 15th and it would be wise to show up when the store opens at 7:00am. Here is the funny part: I am showing up at 6:00pm the day before!!! And, any other hardcore XBox gamer will also...so, when all of the other people show up, it will most likely be too late...we are only carrying 8 XBoxes on the 15h! So, I know that it is important to show up "early". :D

Gammer4Life
11-13-2001, 02:48 PM
When I went to EB store and asked them if they would have some xboxes on the shelf for my friend he said heck no, they only had enough xboxs to give for the people who made pre-orders and I am lucky enough to have made mine in time, The store was packed and a group of guys were playing fusion frenzy, and wouldn't get off. Nobody told me in that store anything negative about the xbox. People use to say that the gamecube may be better until they played it and got heavily ****ed off because it sucks. I think people may have some grudge on Microsoft, even though it may be the best system, a lot of people don't want it to be because they think bill gates is trying to run everything. Bleh!

I was in best buy and they have fever on and whole bunch of people was trying to play it but some dudes where sitting their playing a whole game. Everyone was amazed with that game saying all kinds of stuff about it. I finally got a taste of it and like 6 employees came up to me and asked how did i like the game and i said i loved it. It must have been the first time they have seen it to because they said that game rocks, they kept telling me about how that game gets so much attention and they hadn't a clue it was going to be that kewl. all of the best buy employees that met me said that they loved the xbox. ha nobody was playing the gamecube or ps2. All my friends who are ps2 fans and somewhat xboxs fans said that the gamecube totally sucks and only kids would play it. I think the gamecube is nowhere near the xbox or the ps2 level at all. japan didn't sell but 30% or 1million gamecubes with only one game. My boy that has a ps2 says that he is going to hate on the xbox because it is the enemy and its purposely trying to put sony out. Now that is best reason not to like the xbox i have ever heard

Robmx250
11-13-2001, 05:41 PM
he is 9 years old ...man i played the game grand theft 3 today on a freinds psx2 and that is a pretty good game any of you all played that?

darianX
11-14-2001, 12:21 AM
Well, I have to report I had a GOOD experience at a game store tonight - Funcoland. I almost forgot that place existed in my town, its tucked away in a small shopping center, and I thought it closed long ago. I went in to check on their xbox status, in case my 2 strategies failed to snag one, and found all 3 sales guys pleasant, cheerful and willing to talk sensibly about the xbox. One guy was playing Halo on a little tiny demo kiosk type of thing (not the usual full size kiosk) and I started to get all tingly having never seen it actually running. :D

After asking about their xbox numbers and what they expect outside their door in the morning, I decided to pick up a controller and the s-video cables since they were SO cool and honest about everything. Then the guy playing Halo stops and offers the wife and I the controllers, then sticks in DOA3. That guy was an employee, not a customer. What a refreshing change from Gamestop where the fanboys drool all over themselves pushing PS2s.

BTW, if anyone hasn't played DOA yet...WOW!!! Just wait till you see it in action...I almost sprayed my shorts...and I'm 32....

scarecrow kfj
11-14-2001, 10:02 AM
that sounds like a nice place. I wish I could find a store in my area like that. Alot of aholes work at the ones around me. Looks like I will be doing all my shopping at walmart for games.

batman46st
11-14-2001, 10:40 AM
guys i freaking love ps2 fans and the asses at toysrus or any other department store. yeah let them keep talking today is the 14th soon there lil ps2 with ****ty lineup of games will be srewed over. i cant wait till they see the power of our xboxes. n i gotta give it to microsoft an there lil tv ingeniouse i believe bill gates did that to worn off those who arnt real gamers most of us in here know **** well wat xbox will do to gaming... the tv might not do xbox justice but we all know wat its gonna look like in our tv.
iv been a gamer since day one let the ps2 fans talk n ps2 fans i have a ps2 its the ****tiest thing ever infact it was so ****ty i bought it on its launch an sold it or 800 on ebay n bought a dreamcast....n to those who like to bash dc it only didnt make it because the people backing itup dont have a clue how to run a company but the system is great n would had probably given ps2 some comp but it was never given a chance...

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