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Cannibal Corpse
02-17-2003, 03:23 PM
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.

If Xbox wasn't developed by M$ and its deep pocket, it would be 3DO Part II.

Somethings are menat to be specific to a certain countries:

Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.

If you wanna play non Japanses games, just play PC Games (which Japanese are not strong)

I have all three consoles (4 if you count my beloved Dreamcast).

Have a good day.

Cloud Strife
02-17-2003, 03:31 PM
I happen to agree with you Cannibal Corpse. Japanese games are the best and the Xbox needs them to do well. The Xbox needs RPG games, anime games, cinematic games, etc. to be successful. Developers like Squaresoft, Capcom, Namco, Sega, Koie, Square Enix, Konami, etc. make the best games. If Xbox doesn't get many more of them, I may have to support another system.

xboxmaster2002
02-17-2003, 03:35 PM
id rather play NFl 2k3, NBA 2k3, NHL 2k3, Moto Gp, Mechassalt, Ghost Recon ect. there online and US games too.. Capcom VS SNK 2 is good too. where the games are made have nothing to do with their success look at GTA and Splinter cell... even hlo and PGR great US games. when a game is made reguardless where, the developers are the ones who have the chance to make it a good game and a lot fail but a lot of them can pull it off too.

Cannibal Corpse
02-17-2003, 03:36 PM
Thank God, someone share my frustration. I was reading in the XBN Magazine that Microsoft should have NEVER underestimated the influence of SONY and Japanese PlayStation loyalities, as a result should have NOT competed head to head, (MSG Substance for Xbox? Give me a friggin' break)...

I am still playing Dreamcast games (mostly 2D fighters) and they are pure Japanese Mana sent from Heavens...

Cannibal Corpse
02-17-2003, 03:47 PM
Well, MGS Substance is coming to PS2 (pure Japanse console) even on PC! anyways, so there...

shrew king
02-17-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
I've already heard that but I rather play my games on console than PC anyway. It doesn't really matter to me if MGS3 doesn't come to Xbox because I own all consoles.

Didn't you leave?

wweomaniac
02-17-2003, 04:01 PM
This is really funny b/c my five favorite games are
1) Halo
2) Tony Hawk 3
3) Rallisport
4) NFL 2k3
5) Dead to Rights or Splinter Cell

I even wrote these games down on the other thread "Five favrotie games".


All the games you named (DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.)

I could really care less for. I hate to DOA games b/c I don't find any point of looking at virtual girls when I can get them in real life.
Crimson Sea... *yawn*
Panzer Dragoon Orta... *yawn* again. Who thought of using dragons? yuck
Ninja gaiden... I don't intend on getting that.
MGS2S... splinter cell is better.

shrew king
02-17-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
NNJA GAIDEN.

That game isn't even out yet :confused:

GokuX
02-17-2003, 04:09 PM
I've got a PC and Xbox and they aren't the same. I just say boo freakin hoo to the whole Japanese situation. Really what's the point of your post? Is it to say that it was a mistake for you to buy an Xbox? Sell it if you don't like it.

Snoopy7548
02-17-2003, 04:10 PM
japanese games arent saving the xbox. look at Halo, that was and still is the xbox's number one selling game, and it was made by an american company.

Bravo_2
02-17-2003, 04:51 PM
Screw Japan....

:confused:

LynxFX
02-17-2003, 05:02 PM
It is people that think that Japanese games are the only games worth playing on a console that actually hurts the console. :rolleyes:


Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.
Give me a break.

Snoopy7548
02-17-2003, 05:03 PM
how are consoles a japanese commodity? the first console came out and was made in the United States. if anything, theyre american commodities

Snoopy7548
02-17-2003, 05:32 PM
i dont really like japanese games. i hate rpgs. the japanese like weird games. like those horse racing games. or those dating sim games. i dont know who would pay 50 bucks for one of those. probly someone who doesnt have a life. you cant get a girl so you pretend to go out on a date with a videogame. lol

Kraft
02-17-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger

Japanese are also the hardcore gamers because they dress like their favorite videogame character. I do that all the time.:)

Dressing like your favorite videogame character does not make you 'hardcore'. What it probably does make you is other words like 'obsessive' and 'unstable' and 'uninspired'. Nothing like avoiding your own life by obsessing over someone elses.

LynxFX
02-17-2003, 05:57 PM
Those are all the games I don't like as well Snoopy.

Burning Ranger, you seem to be stereotyping japanese and american game players.

shrew king
02-17-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
I personally don't think that game will save Xbox in Japan. Xbox needs Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior to sell. I would be happier than anything if Xbox had a Final Fantasy.;)

Uhh... the Xbox sold better than the Gamecube recently in Japan, which seems to be a growing trend.

Once again, didn't you leave, never to return?

LynxFX
02-17-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Well, they do like completly different games so I try to keep them seperate.
That doesn't change the fact that you are stereotyping them and us.

MerimacHamwich
02-17-2003, 06:26 PM
Games I like:
Mech Assault
Unreal Championship
Transworld Snowboarding
Splinter Cell
Halo
The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
Deathrow
Bloodrayne
Amped
Project Gotham Racing
Rallisport Challenge
Ghost Recon
Conflict Desert Storm
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer
NFL Fever

Funny, no Asian made games... Seems as though there are plenty of good North American and European made games to me.

As for the list you made Cannibal, I pretty much am disgusted by the quality of all of them. They are examples of horrible games to me.

If you look at the evolution of games made by Asian developers compared to the rest of the world, you will see that Asian games have not changed worth notice since the very start. Whereas the rest of the worlds developers and learned and grown from their experiences and are taking the industry in new and exciting directions. Its called progress. The asian developers are not progressing and I think they will become a thing of the past.

MerimacHamwich
02-17-2003, 06:42 PM
I can honestly say I don;t find any of those games entertaining except for two, which I only kind of enjoy. I disagree with all of your statements.

LynxFX
02-17-2003, 07:01 PM
Of the games listed by Merimac and the games listed by Burning Ranger (xbox titles) the ones by Merimac have sold more collectively than those Japanese titles.

So to go back to the original post, how is it that Japanese games are going to 'save' the Xbox? It seems to me that they would only save it in one market, the Japanese market where they have an inherent prejudice against the Xbox anyway because it is American.

Just for the record, I like 11 of the games listed by Merimac and 3 of all the ones listed by BR.

shrew king
02-17-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Graphics are not what makes games good. Gameplay is what makes games great.

You said yourself that graphics don't make the game, then you go and say this:


Also, the asian developers produce the best CG cinemas. CG cinemas is a very important aspect to a game and makes it great. That is one reason why Final Fantasy X is so great.

Last time I checked, CG Cinemas were involved with graphics.

Shadow20002
02-17-2003, 07:24 PM
Hey, Burning Ranger is coming back with a....punch !! Ok. Let's go straight to the main point of this whole thread. First of all, i am totally agree Xbox is lacking when we talking about RPG and games developed by Japaneses. But why do we need some japanese games to save a Xbox maded by a american compagny ? If the Xbox isn't doing well in the Japan, it's not my problem cause i am not living there.

P.S. One really big FACT that i want to remind everyone: japanese games are missing something that can be downgrade their market in the future. THE ENNEMY A.I.

For truly, the first game that take me to return to play FPS after spending 3 years to play RTS, it's Return To Castle Wolfenstein. Just because before they release the game, they say that is not something you play from the past in FPS, the enemy is become more intelligent than you think (sneak, attack surprisely, cover, etc.) :cool: Now, FPS are my first target than anything else. :cool:

Knight
02-17-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Also, the asian developers produce the best CG cinemas.

No Blizzard & Hollywood develops the best CG.

Cloud Strife
02-17-2003, 07:55 PM
I will also add that Gun Valkyrie got Xbox game of the year in Play Magazine. Then Blinx and JSRF got runner ups. That is why I said Japanese developers as being important. They produced the three best Xbox games of the year. I will add that I never disagreed with a Play Magazine review before. They also rated all Sega games with nothing lower than a 4/5.

Xbox Owner
02-17-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Sega is about ready to cut their Xbox support.

WTF? Where did you hear that from? :rolleyes:

I want a link.

Xbox Owner
02-17-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
I will also add that Gun Valkyrie got Xbox game of the year in Play Magazine. Then Blinx and JSRF got runner ups. That is why I said Japanese developers as being important. They produced the three best Xbox games of the year. I will add that I never disagreed with a Play Magazine review before. They also rated all Sega games with nothing lower than a 4/5.

Same here. I think Crazy Taxi = Xbox's best game as well.

Evil_Dr_Beefy
02-17-2003, 08:07 PM
Burning Ranger , don't let them get to you. I agree with you..I prefer Japanese games myself. I think that the designs , production and all around craftsmenship are alot higher with japanese developers. They have the best character and mech designers. Plus that have the almighty..WOW, that's so cool factor. Western designers tend to play it safe with their designs and animations..when it seems like the guys from japan just go that extra mile....like panzer dragroon orta....Dudes....how long do you think that sega is going to stick around the xbox. with it's games selling in such low numbers

MerimacHamwich
02-17-2003, 08:31 PM
Bah, I cannot believe you guys play that sub par crap.

Xbox Owner
02-17-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
That's exactly what I was thinking. Whenever, I play a Japanese game, it just filled with quality and I can tell lots of work when into the game. They are also the only developers who will spend between 20 million and 70 million producing a game.

I brought up about Sega cutting their Xbox support because of the way their non sport titles do. If PD Orta doesn't sell well, Sega may not be supporting Xbox any longer because they are in even bigger debt right now. Shinobi for PS2 sold about 700,000 copies while Toe Jam & Earl III sold around 20,000-40,000. Tetsu Kayama, the head honcho at Sega of Japan, said they may port thier Xbox exclusives because they need money.

I still want a link.

MerimacHamwich
02-17-2003, 08:41 PM
That statement you just made has validated all of my negative opinions of you.

shrew king
02-17-2003, 09:13 PM
They are also the only developers who will spend between 20 million and 70 million producing a game.

Can you list the games that spent that much, and provide a link?


I brought up about Sega cutting their Xbox support because of the way their non sport titles do. If PD Orta doesn't sell well, Sega may not be supporting Xbox any longer because they are in even bigger debt right now.

You wouldn't know, you are not an employee of Sega. If you can provide a link that is official than I'll shut up.


Shinobi for PS2 sold about 700,000 copies while Toe Jam & Earl III sold around 20,000-40,000.

TJ&EIII was crap, I don't even know why you are comparing those two, what do they have in common?


Tetsu Kayama, the head honcho at Sega of Japan, said they may port thier Xbox exclusives because they need money.

I'd also like a link to this.



Hopefully you're not going to just ignore this Burning Ranger, you seem to have ignored some of my posts in the past.

Liquid Gears
02-17-2003, 09:35 PM
yeah japanese games rule

LynxFX
02-17-2003, 10:17 PM
I would rather spend $8 and watch a movie than spend $50 to watch a game plagued with cut scenes which I normally skip anyway.

RadRider
02-17-2003, 10:23 PM
Well said Lynx, well said.

-edit-
By the by, this is Merimac, I just didnt log out of my brothers profile.

Koopa
02-17-2003, 11:05 PM
the only japanese games that i've ever really loved, come to think of it, are nintendos stuff...mario, zelda, pokemon, starfox, and the rest of the gang.
and for anyone that thinks that nintendo's success is based on its japanese-ness, dont forget Retro Studios' Metroid Prime and Rareware's help in keeping the N64 afloat.

as for that list of japanese games someone posted earlier...theres maybe..3 or 4 games id consider getting. the american/european list was a lot more appealing.

Kraft
02-18-2003, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Um, that's what I would have to say about most Western games like Splinter Cell. MGS2 Substance was the much better game for the high quality story and cutscenes.

We much have different defenitions of the term 'high quality'. When I think of high quality I think of something good that everyone will enjoy. Obviously high quality to you means convoluted confusing that actually detracts from the main purpose of something.

noodleboy
02-18-2003, 06:58 AM
I would like to see more Japanese style games for the Xbox, I am intrigued by the Horse Racing Sim, but I don't think that they are the end all. Just like American games aren't the end all, the more choices the better. If you are genre specific then you are missing out on a lot of good games out there.

And yes Splinter Cell is totally badass!!!!

Cloud Strife
02-18-2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by shrew king
Can you list the games that spent that much, and provide a link?


You wouldn't know, you are not an employee of Sega. If you can provide a link that is official than I'll shut up.


TJ&EIII was crap, I don't even know why you are comparing those two, what do they have in common?

I'd also like a link to this.

Hopefully you're not going to just ignore this Burning Ranger, you seem to have ignored some of my posts in the past. TRoe Jam & Earl III totally rocked. It's one of my favorite Xbox games despite it not being Japanese. I laugh really hard every time I play it. Probably because you didn't know how to play it correctly. Play Magazine gave the game a 4.5/5 rating. I'll look for a link about Sega saying they may port Xbox games. It was the same annoncement Sega made late last year saying that their sports games didn't sell well and Sega was doing to well financially so they mave have to go multi-platform more often. I will say that Sega never makes a bad game; however, Sega still isn't any where near as great as Squaresoft. Link (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game112002.htm)


Now, I do like some western games also so I'm not only into Japanese games. I happen to like a lot of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo first party games that were made in Europe, U.S., and Canada.

About cutscenes Lynx, try watching cutscenes in a videogame. When I started watching them, I noticed that the would tell a great story. Of I would have skipped the cutscenes in Zone of the Enders and Galerians: Ash, I would have never known how great those games really are. Watching the cutscenes in Zone of the Enders even had a scene that made me cry.

Anime is like what most people consider their porn to me. Anime is what I spend my time looking at all the time. If a game has nice anime in it, I will always buy it strickly for that. I think that looking at anime is more enjoyable than lookig at real women.

I would love to see several Xbox Japanese games come to the U.S. I'd buy them in a sceond like:

-Maximum Chase
-Jockey's Road
-N.U.D.E.
-Galaxy Angel
-Shikigami No Shiro
-Shikigami No Shiro Evolution
-Otogi
-Petit Copter
-Flight Academy
-Thousand Land
-Brave Knight
-Triangle Again (anime dating sim)
-Drihoo
-Bistro Cupid (anime cooking sim)
-Innocent Tears
-Anime flight sim that I can't remember the name of

Here are some pics to a new game called Angelic Concert and I really want this game to come stateside. See how much better it looks.
http://www.xbox.jp/software/pickup/img/angelic/package_omote.jpg
http://www.xbox.jp/software/pickup/img/angelic/image02_l.jpg

Insane Jester
02-18-2003, 09:16 AM
i 100% disagree with u . dont get me wrong im not saying the japanese games are crap im just saying other developers are doing great things with the xbox. i have more none jap games in my collection than jap. its all down to one person's tastes.

Rancey
02-18-2003, 09:42 AM
Most of the stuff that you say BR makes me think you want a negative response and want people to pay you out. Saying something like "I like anime more than real girls" is obviously looking for a negative response. You make such rash generalisations, about Japanese as well as American games and people. I am sure I know many more Japanese and Asian people than you being that I live in Australia...DDR and KOF are very big here, but I'm yet to know one person who enjoys that horse racing game or a dating sim...from what you say I don't think you've ever been to Japan, or anywhere in Asia, as it seems most of the stuff you say you've just read of the net and then make a generalisation based on that. You seem to want to be 'different' to the point where you say some ridiculous things. All I'm gonna say is I would love for you to spend a year in Japan (especially being American) and see what you say after that.

LynxFX
02-18-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
About cutscenes Lynx, try watching cutscenes in a videogame. When I started watching them, I noticed that the would tell a great story. Of I would have skipped the cutscenes in Zone of the Enders and Galerians: Ash, I would have never known how great those games really are. Watching the cutscenes in Zone of the Enders even had a scene that made me cry.


Like I said before, I spend the $50 for a game, not a movie. Cut scenes in most games are boring, poorly done, and pointless. If they are done in anime then I definately skip them. I just hate anime, but luckily I rarely ever have a game that has that in it. You obviously are on the other end of that scale. No problem there. The recent japanese game that I played with way too many cut scenes was Panzar Dragoon. I tried to watch most of them but they were sooooo long and drawn out and boring. Not only that but they used 3 different styles for them. I mean, what story are they trying to tell here? So yes, skip skip skip. If a cut scene is nicely rendered in 3D I am more likely to watch it just for the animation. I'm a sucker for that kinda stuff. But I don't want it showing up after every other battle or level.

Mostly I rarely find a game that has a story worthy of watching the cut scenes.

MerimacHamwich
02-18-2003, 12:21 PM
Lynx, be for warned about Crimson Sea. My brothers amde the mistake of thinking it was multiplayer and they rented it. My god was it horrible. There was a cutscene like every freaking 5 feet your character walked. Horrible ones too, with stupid black screen intermissions between for some odd reason. Man, that game sucked soooooooo bad.

Xbox Owner
02-18-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
Link (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game112002.htm)



November 20 , 2002


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

MerimacHamwich
02-18-2003, 12:33 PM
Why do you like all of the things that make games bad?

LynxFX
02-18-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by MerimacHamwich
Lynx, be for warned about Crimson Sea. My brothers amde the mistake of thinking it was multiplayer and they rented it. My god was it horrible. There was a cutscene like every freaking 5 feet your character walked. Horrible ones too, with stupid black screen intermissions between for some odd reason. Man, that game sucked soooooooo bad.
Don't worry, I have zero interest in Crimson Sea. :)

MerimacHamwich
02-18-2003, 12:45 PM
Mircrosoft has nothing to do with PSO!!! Why can't you get it through your head that it is SEGA that makes all the decisions concerning the development and production of this game?

Dre
02-18-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
That is why I left here for a bit because I was doing my posting on a site with people that like the same games I do and prefer Japanese games over western games.

I thought you left cuz you're life sucked and you wanted to work some shyt out?

As to the original topic, Xbox doesn't need saving, pointless thread.

Cloud Strife
02-18-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by MerimacHamwich
Mircrosoft has nothing to do with PSO!!! Why can't you get it through your head that it is SEGA that makes all the decisions concerning the development and production of this game? If you take a look right here you'll see that Microsoft is handling the publishing of PSO in the U.S., not Sega. The game is running on Sega's servers though.

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,561400,00.html

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/product.asp?pf_id=232746

xboxmaster2002
02-18-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
If you take a look right here you'll see that Microsoft is handling the publishing of PSO in the U.S., not Sega. The game is running on Sega's servers though.



Sega is in charge of everything with that game they were the ones that decided to make the game have a fee and all.. its still a great game though

LynxFX
02-18-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
If you take a look right here you'll see that Microsoft is handling the publishing of PSO in the U.S., not Sega. The game is running on Sega's servers though.
Sega is still the one that set the pricing structure. It does blow that MS decided it was best to keep the code in place to require a Live account. I suppose a game like this is only good online anyway.

Where do you see that it is run on Sega's servers? That has been a big no no for MS which is why EA doesn't want to support Live. As far as I know PSO is on MS servers like every other game out there. Sega's team will be managing their section though.

xboxmaster2002
02-18-2003, 01:34 PM
yeah the game has to be on MS servers because if they were on sega servers you would be able to play with gamecube players also.

shrew king
02-18-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
There not bad one bit. I had a discussion about this on a Playstation site and everyone there agreed with me that Japanese games are much better than American games. They even agreed that Japanese make better cars. We all liked our games with cutscenes, deep storyline, and anime looking. We also liked out RPG games turn based. So I'm not the only one that thinks this. I rather have a deep single player game than a multi player game because my friends are not allowed to come by my house.

By all means feel free to go back there, I sure as hell wouldn't mind.


Most of the stuff that you say BR makes me think you want a negative response and want people to pay you out. Saying something like "I like anime more than real girls" is obviously looking for a negative response. You make such rash generalisations, about Japanese as well as American games and people. I am sure I know many more Japanese and Asian people than you being that I live in Australia...DDR and KOF are very big here, but I'm yet to know one person who enjoys that horse racing game or a dating sim...from what you say I don't think you've ever been to Japan, or anywhere in Asia, as it seems most of the stuff you say you've just read of the net and then make a generalisation based on that. You seem to want to be 'different' to the point where you say some ridiculous things. All I'm gonna say is I would love for you to spend a year in Japan (especially being American) and see what you say after that.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


TRoe Jam & Earl III totally rocked. It's one of my favorite Xbox games despite it not being Japanese. I laugh really hard every time I play it. Probably because you didn't know how to play it correctly.

Yeah we all know how hard and confusing Toe Jam & Earl can get :rolleyes:

spike spiegel
02-18-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Rancey
Most of the stuff that you say BR makes me think you want a negative response and want people to pay you out. Saying something like "I like anime more than real girls" is obviously looking for a negative response. You make such rash generalisations, about Japanese as well as American games and people. I am sure I know many more Japanese and Asian people than you being that I live in Australia...DDR and KOF are very big here, but I'm yet to know one person who enjoys that horse racing game or a dating sim...from what you say I don't think you've ever been to Japan, or anywhere in Asia, as it seems most of the stuff you say you've just read of the net and then make a generalisation based on that. You seem to want to be 'different' to the point where you say some ridiculous things. All I'm gonna say is I would love for you to spend a year in Japan (especially being American) and see what you say after that.

lol, yes that would be very interesting indeed. He'd most likely hate Japan after that.....*_*

Evil_Dr_Beefy
02-18-2003, 08:42 PM
C'mon guys before we get too off topic. Okay so Burning ranger likes japanese games. Alot of people like japanese games. Most people won't buy a system without strong japanese gaming support. Why do you think that more people bought a playstation 2 console without a packin game than bought an xbox with 2 packin games last xmas season. I think that other key factors are at work here than just a year headstart. Strong japanese gaming support is one of them. If i am missinformed please tell me. As far as saving the Xbox...microsoft seems to be it's own worst enemy.....if they would just tighten up on quality controls till it hurt and reject some game....lackluster games like Dr muto should not have been allowed on our system...Rethink it's views on allowing so many ports...People aren't falling for the best version arguement....

jhsu
02-18-2003, 08:54 PM
just my 2 Cents....BurningRanger, I do see where you're coming from, with the whole Japanese games being great thing...I too enjoy a great story with lots of cutscenes, and i think certain Japanese made games are excellent(LSSC was great, and Squaresoft RPGs are what prompted me to buy a PS1). However, I think you're wrong when you say that the XBOX NEEDS japanese support to survive. Sure, although Sega makes a lot of great games for the XBOX(like PDO and Shenmue 2, etc.) XBOX is doing just fine on it's own. M$ has backing among PC developers, many of whom are big hitters(Bioware, ID Software, that new Ion Storm branchoff whose name I forget), each of whom have produced excellent games that I have enjoyed just as much as the japanese stuff(Baldur's Gate, Doom/Quake series, and Deus Ex). With rumors of VIvendi being taken over by M$, I think that the XBOX is pretty much set(When it comes to gaming) for the future. Sure, more Japanese game support would definitely help(I wouldn't mind more support from Squaresoft, Konami, etc.), I mean they usually produce some top notch stuff, and would attract more XBOX buyers, as well as provide more gaming goodness for my machine. But it's not something that's necessary to keep the XBOX alive....

ARONO129
02-18-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.

If Xbox wasn't developed by M$ and its deep pocket, it would be 3DO Part II.

Somethings are menat to be specific to a certain countries:

Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.

If you wanna play non Japanses games, just play PC Games (which Japanese are not strong)

I have all three consoles (4 if you count my beloved Dreamcast).

Have a good day.

OK. Good thing you didn't say 100% of non Japanese Xbox games are cr@p. If you did people would think you were an Xbox basher but you only said 99%.

Go take your favorite Japanese game and play it on the PS2 or GC online and hi speed. Then download new levels on your PS2 or GC HD.

ALC
02-18-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.

If Xbox wasn't developed by M$ and its deep pocket, it would be 3DO Part II.
99.9% of your post is crap, sorry.
Microsoft's (that's my way of saying M$) success with the xbox (especially xbox live) is hardly lacklustre.


Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
Somethings are [meant] to be specific to a certain countries:

Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.

If you wanna play non Japanses games, just play PC Games (which Japanese are not strong)


I totally agree with you there, just like some occupations are meant to be specific to a certain gender.

Nursing and Childcare positions are pretty much dominated by the women and it always should stay that way.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Unreal
02-19-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.

If Xbox wasn't developed by M$ and its deep pocket, it would be 3DO Part II.

Somethings are menat to be specific to a certain countries:

Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.

If you wanna play non Japanses games, just play PC Games (which Japanese are not strong)

I have all three consoles (4 if you count my beloved Dreamcast).

Have a good day.
:rolleyes:

I didnt realize DOA3 hitting a million makes it lackluster. I also didnt know Ninja Gaiden was out and was selling poorly. Your an idiot :mad:

Duke
02-19-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Unreal
:rolleyes:

I didnt realize DOA3 hitting a million makes it lackluster. I also didnt know Ninja Gaiden was out and was selling poorly. Your an idiot :mad:

He was saying that these games were really the only things pushing xbox sales, not that they were doing poorly (I think)

Of course, he's still wrong.

MerimacHamwich
02-19-2003, 02:55 PM
Very, very wrong.

Yemack
02-20-2003, 06:37 AM
well, it will be really tough for xbox to compete head to head with Sony playstation without japanese support. that's for sure.

final fantasy like japanese style rpg in xbox = more xbox users = more $$$ for xbox game developers = more great games in xbox

thank god that sould caliber 2 is coming soon.

ShannonX
02-20-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Burning Ranger
It was the same annoncement Sega made late last year saying that their sports games didn't sell well and Sega was doing to well financially so they mave have to go multi-platform more often. I will say that Sega never makes a bad game; however, Sega still isn't any where near as great as Squaresoft. Link (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game112002.htm)



heres a quote from that article....


to maximize sales. Sega is also considering porting certain platform exclusive titles to other console systems, such as some of the Xbox only titles. The Sega Sports division has incurred deficits of 6.1 billion yen this term, but the team is recovered and continue to develop future sports titles.

- Furthermore, Sega mentioned they may cease development of sports titles for GameCube due to losses. However the decision is not yet finalized, because it seems the EA Sports series do not sell well in GameCube either.



so its not only the xbox thats sales are doing bad on... it seems their sports games just dont sell well in general when they are competing with microsoft sports division and EA sports.

thunderkiss2k1
02-20-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.

If Xbox wasn't developed by M$ and its deep pocket, it would be 3DO Part II.

Somethings are menat to be specific to a certain countries:

Consoles pertty much are a Japanese comodity, and it always should stay that way.

If you wanna play non Japanses games, just play PC Games (which Japanese are not strong)

I have all three consoles (4 if you count my beloved Dreamcast).

Have a good day.



Newsflash: you are an idiot. Have a good day.

VeNoMiZA
02-20-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Bravo_2
Screw Japan....

:confused: yeah screw the guy who made this thread also whats his fu**in point?

Knight
02-20-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Shannon-XBA
heres a quote from that article....




so its not only the xbox thats sales are doing bad on... it seems their sports games just dont sell well in general when they are competing with microsoft sports division and EA sports.

If they need money why don't make a Sonic & Golden Axe for the XBox? And if they need to milk a game for more money why not port some of there ps2 games to XBox & gc?

LynxFX
02-20-2003, 11:12 AM
I would love a Sonic game for the Xbox. I thought there was one in developement.

Knight
02-20-2003, 11:21 AM
All Sega has to do is make games XBox owners want & they will be more then happy to buy them.

Xaminor
02-22-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Cannibal Corpse
99% of non Japanese game for Xbox are crap.

DOA3, DOAXBV, CRimson Sea, Panzer Dargoon ORTA, NNJA GAIDEN, even MGS Substance are pushing the lackluster sales of Xbox.


MGS 2 is crap compared to Splinter Cell.

DOA 3 is a good game that is about it, and fighters lose their muster fast.

Crimson Sea is ok, but Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance crushes it.

PDO is awesome, great game.

Ninja Gaiden isn't even out yet.

That said...

Halo
Splinter Cell
Madden
Lord of the Rings: Two Twoers
Max Payne
Buffy
Rallisport Championship
and tons of other games are made by European and American developers, Japan isn't as important to the Xbox as Europe and America both are, but I love Japanese games as well.

tacticsman
02-23-2003, 09:29 AM
Jpanese games= repititiave crap
think about it all ff games and crap rpgs have been exactly the same science the ifrst dragon wariio on nes. Non-japanese games try to inovate and change the game industry with games like
the odworld seris
deus ex(best game ever)
nolf/nolf2
halo
spilnter cell
grand theift auto three

if you go to Japan( like i did) you will see that the few good games that come out here(like sega games) are about the only good japanese games the rest are crap

Shadow20002
02-23-2003, 10:21 AM
I want they think more about AI. Their stories in games is very good but the gameplay are always in the same stats. ;)