What's the big deal about this 50.Cal?

[Holt88]

Some say it's a cheap weapon or whatever. It happens to have 100 range and power, so what? If someone want's to use it, let them. Shouldn't make a big deal out of someone using a gun that's that good. Need to play the game and stop making restrictions on who can use what, and I HIGHLY doubt sending e-mails to the company are going to make them take the gun out.

[Diddy]

First off, lets get the facts straight.
Tom Clancy is supposedly, supposed to equal realism. The M82A1A is realistic in the game as far as power and range. But have you noticed how fast the weapon shoots and how accurate it is??

Thats because there is no recoil to the weapon so people can fire off as many shots as the clip can hold as fast as they can pull the trigger. That gun weighs roughly 40 pounds and it fires a 50 caliber round. Now noone REALISTICALLY can run around and fire off the whole clip and actually kill someone with that weapon. Also, ITS A SNIPER RIFLE YOU IDIOT! Its not a machine gun, thought you are able to fire it as such and its one shot kill, and as you stated above, the range of the weapon is 100. Normal people can barely fire the gun while in the prone position accurately.(Untrained civilians) That gun is so unrealistic its annoying to play in xserver games.

And another thing they need to patch, thought I dont really know what happens, but you can empty your clip on a guy less than a foot away from you and he can do the same, but usually noone dies. Now i know that firing is unaccurate when your moving, but the bullets should not miss when you are point blank. I have shot someone with the desert eagle point blank in the back, I emptied the magazine(7 rounds in mag, 1 in chamber) and the enemy i was shooting at just sat there, flintched, and took the rounds. Then as i was reloading, he ran away and a teammate got him.
WTF???? Stuff like that they need to fix.

Its a cheap weapon and people who suck at the game use it. Thats why people say to not use it in their servers.

[Holt88]

Before you talk, get you're stuff straight. Any well trained sniper can carry this around shooting with no problem. It has the lowest recoil to any other sniper rifle. It's weight is only 28.5 pounds, that's not heavy, unless you're weak. Maybe if you knew what you were saying, this gun allows the capability of rapidly placing multiple aimed shots on a given target. It fires the .50 caliber machine gun cartridge, duhhhhhh. This gun is 1 if not the best rounded sniper rifle.:rolleyes:

[Typhoon Merc]

Ya...........

Ummmm.....if ppl wanna run around wit the .50 cal let um........i mean comon if u die big deal....this game isnt as realistic as it should b with the whole unaccuracy thing....

If u think about it these r trained pros.......they should b able to kill u with a 9mm handgun in the head in a moving car.....not unload 2 clips in a person while im standing still :huh: .

[Holt88]

Yup, thease guys are the best of the best. If it's not realistic enough for you, do the real thing and go get a bunch of friends, get M82's for them all and have a blast.:watchout:

[MerimacHamwich]

A professional killer doesn't even have that kinda of skill Typhoon.

Anyhow, the reason poeple don't like having it enabled is becuase it promotes an atmosphere in the game of "Hes using the best gun, so I am going to too!" Which sucks, becuase then everybody is using the same freaking gun, and poeple start complaining, becuase one person was faster on the trigger than another person, and so on and so forth. The gun is straight up bad for the game. If they made it bolt action, it would solve everything.

Common sense me hearties.

[Holt88]

The gun is what it is, and that's how good the m82 is as I've stated. Anyway, typhoon why aren't you on AIM?

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88
The gun is what it is, and that's how good the m82 is as I've stated. Anyway, typhoon why aren't you on AIM?
Well I honestly doubt you personally know how good the gun is, seeing as you are in highschool.

I do know for a fact it promotes the wrong mindset for this type of game though. Powerplayer type mindsets, instead of teamwork.

[Holt88]

You think because I'm in highschool, that I don't know anything about it, what kind of thinking is that? You don't know what I do.:rofl:

[No Fear 23]

well i stopped using the gun bc i was getting too good with it and being unfiar to other ppl. well i think ppl should look at the fact that the game takes place in the future, 2007 i think and all guns would be improved to its best performance. which is something they prolly did with the .50 cal. if u see the pic of the .50 cal in the game, u can tell that it dosent look heavy. they tried to make the guns as realistic as possible by the future.

just my .02

[Holt88]

True, but I gotta look at the pic and compare it.

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88
You think because I'm in highschool, that I don't know anything about it, what kind of thinking is that? You don't know what I do.:rofl:
You're part of a special forces unit in the United Nations security division? Wow, and still in highschool. That's impressive.

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[Holt88]

Originally posted by MerimacHamwich

You're part of a special forces unit in the United Nations security division? Wow, and still in highschool. That's impressive.

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I go hunting, and people I know tell me about thease things, while you're up there clubbing baby seals. So, I know what I'm talking about.

[Dark Enemy]

I still dont understand the aiming in this game. Sometimes i sneak behind a team and shoot 2 people in the back and head and they just turn around and kill me but they dont die:(

[Xbox Owner]

The reason I don't like it? You can shoot someone in the toenail and kill someone with it! ..one shot!

Now, if it had something to balance it out, I wouldn't mind, such as moving slower, and shots shouldn't not coming out as if it was a machine gun.....

[FragMaster B]

Originally posted by Dark Enemy
I still dont understand the aiming in this game. Sometimes i sneak behind a team and shoot 2 people in the back and head and they just turn around and kill me but they dont die:(

I hear you on that Shiz DE. I've unloaded whole clips into the back of people and hit nuttin. There-in probably lies my prob I'm guessing. I think I hold the trigger down a bit too long. Short controlled burst, short controlled bursts...

"Men have fired entire clips at them and hit nothing but air."
- Morpheus

[CarGuy]

The gun, in real life, produces massive recoil. Nobody in the world would be able to keep it as steady as you can in the game. If people want to use it that's fine, i just wont play with them. I think its better to switch around guns and just have fun. I mean if there was nothing hindering a person using the .50 sniper rifle, why dont they make a .50 assault rifle with the same stopping power?? There has to be a good reason.

[Holt88]

It barely has "any" recoil force, which is what I said. Read my other posts, "you can place multiple shots on a target".

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88
It barely has "any" recoil force, which is what I said. Read my other posts, "you can place multiple shots on a target".
Oh and ofcourse you are definetly the authority on such matter, as hunting with a rifle far from the M82 and heresay are without a doubt proof of your knowledge about the weapon.

You have no more of an idea how good the rifle is in real life than anyone on these forums. Actually, I would bet Reclaimer-XBA, carlbme, Sodacider and a few other actually DO know what its like. You would probably try to argue with them too though...

[nutsnyomowf]

Let the 50 cal.be. I havent used it yet but im not gona tell sumone that they cant use a weapon thats usable in the game.If they want to launch grenades let them.Maybe the game will get boring to them using these cheap ways to get kills and they will change there way of play.

[No Fear 23]

well, right now, i've been noticing ppl who use the .50 cal are getting killed by their own teammates bc they dont want them to use it and get all the kills. crazy

[Holt88]

I allow people to use it. It's in the game so I have no problem with it.

[Typhoon Merc]

LOL.......

Wow all over a gun that is in a game.....

and yes i know ppl who r not in the Special Forces who can shoot out of a car.....mayb not wit a 9.....but can hit a target with a rifle so i dont think it is too much to ask out of a Trained Proffesional :)

[Kortiz]

Playing the game, before the 50 cal. was outlawed by most people...I had not noticed the damage it really did. I knew it was good..........but it wasn't until I was on a server, a few nights ago. It was the night that No Fear was using the 50cal but we couldn't get through to him to not use it...so some just said f' it and used it for a few rounds.

JJax comes to mind as one that used it and he totally murdered. It was insane how one shot can take someone out.

The gun that I use is the g3a3.......I like it because it has a high rating for damage. Sure it has a high rating for damage.....I have used half of a clip hitting someone in the back or chest........and they end up killing me, while they take zero (0) damage at all.

I guess it is all about the head shot.

[The Terminator]

On the issue of the M82A1, AKA the Barrett "Light 50"... I may not have the game, but this is what the rifle is in real life:

It's classified as an anti-material rifle. It is NOT designed to be fired at people; as a matter of fact, using it as such violates the Geneva Convection. However, no one really cares about that, so you're not going to see any world courts assemble over the use of the Barrett .50, or any other AM rifles for that matter. The sheer shock of being hit by a bullet from this thing, even in your hand will kill you, as well as completely blow your hand, if not your arm, off. To get an idea of the sheer power of the weapon, the air-displacement of the bullet alone could possibly do some serious damage to a person, even if the bullet doesn't actually hit them.

At any rate, I have spoken to people who have fired this rifle. They all say one thing: the recoil is pretty damn tough, but it's amazingly light for a weapon of that size. I will note that they all fire from the prone position, with the bi-pod deployed. without the bipod/prone position, it would be much worse. It may be semi-auto, but you're not going to be able to fire it in bursts, with any accuracy. Needless to say, the Barrett .50 is meant to be fired from a prone position with the bi-pod down. If you were to shoot it while standing up, you would not be able to hit anything, and you'd probably fall over, if not suddenly find yourself looking at the sky/ground. The idea of firing it while standing is ridiculous. The gun weighs around 30 pounds which may not be much as far as just lugging the weapon around goes, but accurately balancing it to fire while moving is just not going to be possible.

Anyway, that's the real weapon known as the Barrett M82A1.

[Holt88]

No, it has the force of a 12 guage shotgun. Like I said, any well trained person who has the knowledge of what they're doing can operate this without no problem, standing or whatever.

[Toder]

Everyone knows that this weapon is cheap, and those who defends its use are also cheap. Thats all i have to say about that

[Holt88]

You know how big the bullets are? .50 Cal? And the power of the gun, makes it deadly..can take you're whole arm off, the gun is that good, so thanks for playing the "you don't know what you're talking about" game.

[The Terminator]

Originally posted by Holt88
No, it has the force of a 12 guage shotgun. Like I said, any well trained person who has the knowledge of what they're doing can operate this without no problem, standing or whatever.

This issue was beginning to annoy me as to who was right, so I talked to someone who owns one.

He said that it does have recoil comparable to a 12 gauge, so you were right in that respect. He believes that it could be feasible to get a good shot off standing still, but whoever did that would have to be very strong, because the gun weighs around 35 pounds, and stabilizing the weight to keep the gun steady is what would take all the strength. Moving, however, he said there was no way in hell you'd get off an accurate shot.

As far as rapid-firing it goes, he said you can rapid fire it pretty easily while prone, with the bipod down. But then he said any other position would pretty much be impossible to rapid fire it without hitting things you never realized you were aiming at.

So I dunno how it is in the game, but this has always been my favorite sniper rifle (although i like the bolt action M82A1M the most), but from what I've heard, you should not be able to run around and use it like a Q2/Q3A rail-gun in a "realistic" game.

[JJaX]

Oh here it is...

When you use the .50 cal, you can run and gun. Killing anyone with 1 hit to any part of the body. So its basicy an automatic rail gun from quake, or a faster shooting instagib from unreal tournament.

So when running around with this gun, you are just about unstoppable, unless your going against someone else with a .50 cal, or you just suck.

But when you use an AR, you cant run and gun and rack up kills. You are going to either get shot in the face buy someone who has his sites zoomed, or your going to take damage from a fire fight.

So when using an AR, you slow the pace of the game and you tend to be more cautious. It creates a more team oriented atmosphere. It just makes the game that much better.

Keep in mind, We are paying for R6, not quake with automatic rail guns.

Moving on, i say keep the game in the game. But make it so you cant fire it unless you are zoomed. Because adding recoil wont really solve much. Most people will still get the kill on the 1st shot. Or maybe even make it bolt action, to prevent people from storming into a room like dukenukem and racking up 3-4 kills before dropping. (i know ive done it)

You see the guns stats were created when the orginal R6:3 was made for the PC. THe aiming was like GR, you had to settle in before the reticle would tighten up on a target. But R6 on the Xbox, they remade the aiming to make it possible to get shots in while on the run. But the .50 cal just backfired and the gun is superior in many many ways. Not in the light that it has good stats, its a better gun. It makes the game unbalanced. And any decent player will agree.

.50 cals are for noobs. I admit, i abused the hell out of it to prove a point. But nothing says noob more than dying from a AR with a .50 cal in your hands.

I'll let this all soak in now.

[dances with broom sticks]

Originally posted by JJaX
Oh here it is...

When you use the .50 cal, you can run and gun. Killing anyone with 1 hit to any part of the body. So its basicy an automatic rail gun from quake, or a faster shooting instagib from unreal tournament.

So when running around with this gun, you are just about unstoppable, unless your going against someone else with a .50 cal, or you just suck.

But when you use an AR, you cant run and gun and rack up kills. You are going to either get shot in the face buy someone who has his sites zoomed, or your going to take damage from a fire fight.

So when using an AR, you slow the pace of the game and you tend to be more cautious. It creates a more team oriented atmosphere. It just makes the game that much better.

Keep in mind, We are paying for R6, not quake with automatic rail guns.

Moving on, i say keep the game in the game. But make it so you cant fire it unless you are zoomed. Because adding recoil wont really solve much. Most people will still get the kill on the 1st shot. Or maybe even make it bolt action, to prevent people from storming into a room like dukenukem and racking up 3-4 kills before dropping. (i know ive done it)

You see the guns stats were created when the orginal R6:3 was made for the PC. THe aiming was like GR, you had to settle in before the reticle would tighten up on a target. But R6 on the Xbox, they remade the aiming to make it possible to get shots in while on the run. But the .50 cal just backfired and the gun is superior in many many ways. Not in the light that it has good stats, its a better gun. It makes the game unbalanced. And any decent player will agree.

.50 cals are for noobs. I admit, i abused the hell out of it to prove a point. But nothing says noob more than dying from a AR with a .50 cal in your hands.

I'll let this all soak in now.

Very well said, and I think its more fun to get a kill using an AR then getting 4 using the .50 Cal.

Good idea with the having to be zoomed in to shoot. That would make it still useable as a sniper, which it should be.

[The Terminator]

Just a question, but... how powerful are the other rifles relative to this one in the game, when used as sniper rifles, and not as rail guns?

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by The Terminator
Just a question, but... how powerful are the other rifles relative to this one in the game, when used as sniper rifles, and not as rail guns?

50 cal takes 1 shot kill anywhere on the body. the others take half a clip or more to kill someone. i once shot like a half a clip up close to some one with a g3a3 and the bastage wouldnt die. so he turned around and killed me. its all aobut headshots in the game with other weapons.

[Holt88]

I guarantee that any of those trained professions could walk, run around shooting this with accuracy with the amount of training they do. There's people I played who used the M82 that I've killed using a differnt weapon. Yesterday, I used it about 3-4 times, being stationary just looking into a building while the rest of my team moved.

[Ford Mustang]

It's blatantly obvious that most of the people on this site know absolutely nothing about guns. :rolleyes:...

All I have to say, is if you get hit with a .50 cal anywhere on your body, you are done. The shock itself will completely incapacitate you, thus removing your ability to fight. Therefore, you're pretty much dead. They're just cutting to the chase.

[The Terminator]

Originally posted by Ford_Mustang
It's blatantly obvious that most of the people on this site know absolutely nothing about guns. :rolleyes:...

All I have to say, is if you get hit with a .50 cal anywhere on your body, you are done. The shock itself will completely incapacitate you, thus removing your ability to fight. Therefore, you're pretty much dead. They're just cutting to the chase.

Yea, that's pretty much a condensed version of what I said, but this argument is not about the 1 shot one kill not being realistic, or at least I didn't interpret it as that, but rather the usage of this weapon as an automatic railgun, and all the other weapons doing no damage when rapid fired into people.

3 .223s to the chest from an M4/M16 will drop your target the same as a .50 round to the target would, but apparently that's not the case here.

[Kortiz]

i use the g3a3.......in order to get a quick kill, you have to aim for the head. if you use the g3a3.............or anything else for that matter, you will be using half of your clip by going for the chest or back.

it is quite annoying to watch your guy shoot someone in the back in 3 or 4 spurts of 3 or so bullets per spurt.........and them still be alive.

the 50cal, like said above, takes one shot to the back or anywhere on the body.........shoot them in the foot and they are dead.

[TuffEagle88]

Originally posted by Holt88
Before you talk, get you're stuff straight. Any well trained sniper can carry this around shooting with no problem. It has the lowest recoil to any other sniper rifle. It's weight is only 28.5 pounds, that's not heavy, unless you're weak. Maybe if you knew what you were saying, this gun allows the capability of rapidly placing multiple aimed shots on a given target. It fires the .50 caliber machine gun cartridge, duhhhhhh. This gun is 1 if not the best rounded sniper rifle.:rolleyes:

I'm not gonna read all of the posts, but I would argue that it is in no way one of the best rounded sniper rifles, the ammunition weighs a ton, it can't be suppressed, the rifle itself weights close to 30lbs, which if you don't think is heavy, you try walking around all day with one. In real life you would also have to carry a primary rifle usually an M16 or M4 with 600 rounds of ammunition, and the rest of your gear, but thats besides the point. You know maybe you ought to talk to some snipers that just got back. Have ever even tried to fire a scoped rifle while running or even walking, especially one that weighed as much as the M107 (Barrett 82A2)? Carrying around 30 or 40 pounds doesn't seem like that much for a little while, but try walking around all day carrying one.

It's classified as an anti-material rifle. It is NOT designed to be fired at people; as a matter of fact, using it as such violates the Geneva Convection. not true, it is actually classified as an anti-materiel/personel sniper rifle. Also the 25mm cannons mounted on Bradleys and the larger cannons mounted on tanks are also used for both anit-materiel/personel purposes, but I'm not sure how either are officially classified.

About dieing reguardless of where you would be hit, these are really half truths. Yes, you could die from shot if you were shot in the hand(which there probably wouldn't be much of one left), but what are the odds of you bleeding to death from that? How many times have you seen or heard of veterans who stepped on landmines and had both of their legs blown off? or an arm? or a hand? or a kid blowing his hands off with fireworks? Yea, you could die from it if you just sat there waiting to die, which I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't do. It wouldn't send you immediately into shock and convulsions, but you would just start to bleed to death. I really, really doubt that it would incapacitate you, because in order to do so, you would have to be hit in center mass, which would kill you anyways.

I don't have the game yet, but it doesn't sound like the .50 BMG, not the .50 AE Dessert Eagle, is very realisticly portrayed. I don't think that there is anyone who could hold it up standing, walking, or running steady enough to be accurate, especially when firing rapidly, which I've seen them and I can fire my pump 12 guage as fast as they can be shot.

[Typhoon Merc]

The whole thing about being shot anywhere on the body is ridiculous.......

Snipers dont shoot for pretty much anything but kill pts...the head..the chest....

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by TuffEagle88


I'm not gonna read all of the posts, but I would argue that it is in no way one of the best rounded sniper rifles, the ammunition weighs a ton, it can't be suppressed, the rifle itself weights close to 30lbs, which if you don't think is heavy, you try walking around all day with one. In real life you would also have to carry a primary rifle usually an M16 or M4 with 600 rounds of ammunition, and the rest of your gear, but thats besides the point. You know maybe you ought to talk to some snipers that just got back. Have ever even tried to fire a scoped rifle while running or even walking, especially one that weighed as much as the M107 (Barrett 82A2)? Carrying around 30 or 40 pounds doesn't seem like that much for a little while, but try walking around all day carrying one.

not true, it is actually classified as an anti-materiel/personel sniper rifle. Also the 25mm cannons mounted on Bradleys and the larger cannons mounted on tanks are also used for both anit-materiel/personel purposes, but I'm not sure how either are officially classified.

About dieing reguardless of where you would be hit, these are really half truths. Yes, you could die from shot if you were shot in the hand(which there probably wouldn't be much of one left), but what are the odds of you bleeding to death from that? How many times have you seen or heard of veterans who stepped on landmines and had both of their legs blown off? or an arm? or a hand? or a kid blowing his hands off with fireworks? Yea, you could die from it if you just sat there waiting to die, which I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't do. It wouldn't send you immediately into shock and convulsions, but you would just start to bleed to death. I really, really doubt that it would incapacitate you, because in order to do so, you would have to be hit in center mass, which would kill you anyways.

I don't have the game yet, but it doesn't sound like the .50 BMG, not the .50 AE Dessert Eagle, is very realisticly portrayed. I don't think that there is anyone who could hold it up standing, walking, or running steady enough to be accurate, especially when firing rapidly, which I've seen them and I can fire my pump 12 guage as fast as they can be shot.

everything u said in ur post happens the opposite in the game. u can run around with the .50 cal and shoot repeatly without any recoil. i've stormed into a room full of 6 guys and eliminated them all with 6 bullets and left the room with only a half a bar of health left. i can say that it was one of the most fun experience i had in RS3. the .50 cal is pretty fun to use but its a pretty well unbalanced gun bc it is not realistic.

[TuffEagle88]

Originally posted by No Fear 23


everything u said in ur post happens the opposite in the game. u can run around with the .50 cal and shoot repeatly without any recoil. i've stormed into a room full of 6 guys and eliminated them all with 6 bullets and left the room with only a half a bar of health left. i can say that it was one of the most fun experience i had in RS3. the .50 cal is pretty fun to use but its a pretty well unbalanced gun bc it is not realistic.

Thats cool, al long as it is fun to the player, I just don' t see how Tom's games are going to keep being the benchmark for military accuracy if something like this got into his games. I guess you can't get everything right. :(

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by TuffEagle88


Thats cool, al long as it is fun to the player, I just don' t see how Tom's games are going to keep being the benchmark for military accuracy if something like this got into his games. I guess you can't get everything right. :(
Correction, its fun for the person using it, it is extremely lame for the poeple being shot by it.

[The Terminator]

Meh, it's weird all the conflicting info on this weapon, but this is what the a site dedicated to modern military firearms had to say about it:


The Barrett Firearms company was founded by the Ronnie Barrett for a single purpose of building semi-automatic rifles chambered for powerful .50BMG ammunition, originally developed for and used in Browning M2HB heavy machine guns. Barrett began his work in early 1980s and first working rifles were available in 1982, hence the designation M82. Barrett continued to develop his rifle through 1980s, and developed improved M82A1 rifle by 1986. The first real success was the purchase of about 100 M82A1 rifles by the Sweden Army in 1989. Major success followed in 1990 - 1991, when US Military purchased numbers of the M82A1 during the operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm in Kuwait and Iraq. About 125 rifles were initially bought by US Marine Corps, orders from US Army and Air Force followed soon. The M82A1 is known for US Military as the SASR - "Special Applications Scoped Rifle", and it was and still is used as an anti-materiel weapon and EOD (explosive ordnance disposal) tool. The long effective range along with high energy and availability of highly effective ammunition such as API and Raufoss M213 allows for effective operations against targets like radar cabins, trucks, parked aircrafts and so on. M82 also can be used to defeat enemy snipers or criminals from standoff range or when targets are behind the cover, but the anti-personnel work is not a major application for Barrett M82 (or any other .50BMG rifle, for that matter).

Further development led to the M82A2 bull-pup rifle (1987), which was designed to be fired from the shoulder, but did not succeed, and was soon dropped from production. The M82A2 was obviously designed as a cheap anti-helicopter weapon, suitable for use against highly mobile targets when fired from the shoulder. The latest derivative of the M82 family is the M82A1M rifle, adopted by USMC as the M82A3 SASR and bought in significant numbers. This rifle differs from M82A1 in that it have a full length Picatinny rail that allows a huge variety of scopes and sighting devices to be mounted on the rifle. Other changes are addition of the rear monopod, slightly lightened mechanism and detachable bipod and muzzle brake. The Barrett M82 rifles were bought by various military and police countries from at least 30 countries, such as Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Italy, Mexico, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, UK, USA and others. The M82 also is widely used for civilian .50 caliber long range shooting competitions, being fired accurately out to 1000 yards (911 meters) and even further.

As a side note I must point out that the Barrett M82A1 rifle was recently (2002) used as a platform for experimental OSW (Objective Sniper Weapon) prototype. The M82A1 rifle was fitted with shorter barrel of 25mm caliber, and fired low-velocity high explosive shells developed for 25mm OCSW automatic grenade launcher. The experimental OSW showed an increased effectiveness against various targets but the recoil was beyond the human limitations.

The M82 is a recoil operated, short barrel stroke, semi-automatic firearm. When gun is fired, barrel initially recoils for a short distance (about an inch - 25 mm) being securely locked by the rotating bolt. After the short travel a post on the bolt, engaged in the curved cam track in the receiver, turns bolt to unlock it from the barrel. As soon as the bolt unlocks, the accelerator arm strikes it back, transferring some part of the recoil energy of the barrel to the bolt to achieve the reliable cycling. Then barrel is stopped and the bolt continues back, to extract and eject a spent case. On its return stroke bolt strips the fresh cartridge from the box magazine and feeds it into the chamber and finally locks itself to the barrel. The striker also is ****ed on the return stroke of the bolt. The gun is fed from the large detachable box magazines, that hold 10 rounds.

The receiver is made from two parts (upper and lower), stamped from sheet steel and connected by cross-pins. Heavy barrel is fluted to improve heat dissipation and save weight, and fitted with large and effective reactive muzzle brake. On the earlier models the muzzle brakes were of round cross-section, latter M82 rifles are equipped with two chamber brakes of rectangular cross-section. M82A1 rifles are fitted with scope mount and a folding backup iron sights. M82 rifles are often equipped with Leupold M series 10X telescope sights. The M82A1M (USMC M82A3) rifles have long Picatinny accessory rail mounted on the top of the receiver, that can accept wide variety of scopes, day or night. Every M82 rifle is equipped with folding carrying handle and with a folding bipod (both are detachable on M82A3). M82A3 also fitted with the detachable rear monopod under the butt. The buttpad is fitted with soft recoil pad to further decrease the felt recoil. M82A1 and M82A3 rifles could be mounted on the M3 or M122 infantry tripods (originally intended for machine guns) or on vehicles using special Barrett soft-mount. M82A1 can be fitted with carry sling but according to those who carried it in the field, M82 is way too uncomfortable to be carried on sling due to excessive length and heavy weight. It is usually carried in special carry soft or hard case.

The M82A2 differed from M82A1 mostly in that the pistol grip along with trigger had been placed ahead of the magazine, and the buttpad has been placed below the receiver, just after the magazine. Additional forward grip was added below the receiver, and the scope mount has been moved forward too.


Source: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm

[JJaX]

Seems like everything i said went over the .50 Cal noobs heads :rolleyes:

[The Terminator]

Originally posted by JJaX
Seems like everything i said went over the .50 Cal noobs heads :rolleyes:

Yep.

In every online realism mod I've ever played, there has always been one "super weapon". In Action Quake 2, the sniper rifle, even tho bolt action was the most powerful weapon, and we'd all run around hopping and "railing" each other with sniper rifles. If you weren't good at the sniper rifle, too bad, you'd lose.

In a mod called Q2 DDay, which tried to be a realistic WW2 modification for Quake 2, there was a huge problem initially with SMGs being far too accurate (no recoil), at first, then they added recoil and upped the power of the M1 Garand to be a one shot one kill weapon. And it fired a clip of 8 rounds at semi auto, so that was the new ridiculous weapon. It got so bad that everyone who ran a server would give warnings to M1 Garand users, and if they didn't listen, they'd be kicked and banned.

With over-powered weapons, there just has to be a general agreement not to use them, for the good of everyone playing the game. The argument, "It's part of the game! I should be able to use it!" is a stupid/selfish argument, because it completely ignores the general feelings of every other player on the server. And without those other players, what would you shoot at with your automatic rail-gun?

[Holt88]

Originally posted by TuffEagle88


I'm not gonna read all of the posts, but I would argue that it is in no way one of the best rounded sniper rifles, the ammunition weighs a ton, it can't be suppressed, the rifle itself weights close to 30lbs, which if you don't think is heavy, you try walking around all day with one. In real life you would also have to carry a primary rifle usually an M16 or M4 with 600 rounds of ammunition, and the rest of your gear, but thats besides the point. You know maybe you ought to talk to some snipers that just got back. Have ever even tried to fire a scoped rifle while running or even walking, especially one that weighed as much as the M107 (Barrett 82A2)? Carrying around 30 or 40 pounds doesn't seem like that much for a little while, but try walking around all day carrying one.

not true, it is actually classified as an anti-materiel/personel sniper rifle. Also the 25mm cannons mounted on Bradleys and the larger cannons mounted on tanks are also used for both anit-materiel/personel purposes, but I'm not sure how either are officially classified.

About dieing reguardless of where you would be hit, these are really half truths. Yes, you could die from shot if you were shot in the hand(which there probably wouldn't be much of one left), but what are the odds of you bleeding to death from that? How many times have you seen or heard of veterans who stepped on landmines and had both of their legs blown off? or an arm? or a hand? or a kid blowing his hands off with fireworks? Yea, you could die from it if you just sat there waiting to die, which I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't do. It wouldn't send you immediately into shock and convulsions, but you would just start to bleed to death. I really, really doubt that it would incapacitate you, because in order to do so, you would have to be hit in center mass, which would kill you anyways.

I don't have the game yet, but it doesn't sound like the .50 BMG, not the .50 AE Dessert Eagle, is very realisticly portrayed. I don't think that there is anyone who could hold it up standing, walking, or running steady enough to be accurate, especially when firing rapidly, which I've seen them and I can fire my pump 12 guage as fast as they can be shot.

Who the hell was talking about walking around all day with the M82? Nobody. I guess some need to add in nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject.

[Holt88]

I created a server last night, and people agreed with me about the gun, and I had no problem of who used it. Maybe the next time someone uses the gun, why don't you go hide.

[Casper]

Originally posted by Holt88


Who the hell was talking about walking around all day with the M82? Nobody. I guess some need to add in nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject.

So you're still not going to admit that this is an unevenly powered gun huh? Well, have fun trying to find a server cuz most of us are banning them.....play with real weapon instead of trying to find an edge with something that's unevenly overpowered.

Btw, the LEAST you can fess up with is about how there's no scope when unzoomed...christ, you're not going to just aim the .50 and shoot, you'll ALWAYS use a zoom...and stop with the professional talk, cuz you're far from it, as are we.

[Holt88]

How about everyone stops whining. That's what's wrong with alot of people in America, non stop complaining. I'm not a professional, but I know alot more about guns then alot of other people in here. And I also get other information from people I know who are in the Army, and ummm, yes it is easily one of the best sniper rifles in the world.

[Casper]

Originally posted by Holt88
How about everyone stops whining. That's what's wrong with alot of people in America, non stop complaining. I'm not a professional, but I know alot more about guns then alot of other people in here. And I also get other information from people I know who are in the Army, and ummm, yes it is easily one of the best sniper rifles in the world.

WTF? America? You're dam lucky that you're representing my heritage with that flag there bud, or else I'd have a few choice words for you.....what a stupid ass thing to say.....

This game isn't REAL LIFE....so get back into it - it's just a game, alot of the time there are things that are set up uneven, so be it, since we choose not to allow it in our servers, that's our choice, until they come up with a patch...if not, then it's still not allowed.

You're the one that started this thread whining - we're just showing you how it is.....

Moron...America? Dude.....

[JJaX]

Originally posted by Holt88
I created a server last night, and people agreed with me about the gun, and I had no problem of who used it. Maybe the next time someone uses the gun, why don't you go hide.

Come play with me, and we'll see whos hiding. :D

.50 Cal noob.

Im glad you can have a .50 cal noobfest and have a good time. More power to you. Just continue to host your games and everything will be fine. But come to any dedicated server and get ready to be Teamkilled.

I can see your server now.
.50 cals
No friendly fire
Grenade launchers

I can hear all your high pitched voices all ready :rolleyes:

[Holt88]

Originally posted by Casper-XBA


WTF? America? You're dam lucky that you're representing my heritage with that flag there bud, or else I'd have a few choice words for you.....what a stupid ass thing to say.....

This game isn't REAL LIFE....so get back into it - it's just a game, alot of the time there are things that are set up uneven, so be it, since we choose not to allow it in our servers, that's our choice, until they come up with a patch...if not, then it's still not allowed.

You're the one that started this thread whining - we're just showing you how it is.....

Moron...America? Dude.....

Where do you get saying "my" heritage?:watchout:

Yeah it isn't real life, so stop complaining, it's a game, to have fun. They aren't going to send any PATCH because a bunch of people who want to cry about the M82.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by JJaX


Come play with me, and we'll see whos hiding. :D

.50 Cal noob.

Im glad you can have a .50 cal noobfest and have a good time. More power to you. Just continue to host your games and everything will be fine. But come to any dedicated server and get ready to be Teamkilled.

I can see your server now.
.50 cals
No friendly fire
Grenade launchers

I can hear all your high pitched voices all ready :rolleyes:

I don't hide from anyone. I just run around and have fun, and yeah, I do allow the M82, and grenade launchers. Not going to complain about something in a game.

[DZNUTZ]

funny..i was in a dedicated ubi server last night...and voila...they didn't even allow grenade launchers. hmmmmmmm so could that possibily mean..that even tho they developed the game witht hat weapon...they might even think its FUNNER and more balanced to play without it?!?!?!?

I THINK IT JUST MIGHT!


and i got money that says..if they somehow implemented a patch that allowed for an option of not using the .50 they'd run at least some of their servers with that option ON.

[The Terminator]

Originally posted by Holt88
How about everyone stops whining. That's what's wrong with alot of people in America, non stop complaining. I'm not a professional, but I know alot more about guns then alot of other people in here. And I also get other information from people I know who are in the Army, and ummm, yes it is easily one of the best sniper rifles in the world.

Hmm... I've heard that argument before... O yea, every single game with an imbalanced weapon has people who use that exact same argument (sans America comment). With the example of that Quake 2 DDay mod, everyone who loved using the overpowered M1 Garand would say, "Do you think the Germans thought it was fair America had the garand??" It's a stupid argument, because it's a game, where the object is for everyone on the server, the winners, the losers, and the ppl inbetween, to have fun. Face it, multiplayer games revolve around the group as a whole having fun, and it appears as if the vast majority agree that the .50 is overpowered, and should not be used, ergo, you should respect that decision, and just learn to eliminate that weapon from your arsenal. Playing on servers where everyone agrees to use it is great, but it'd just be better to stop using it altogether, so that way ppl would be encouraged even more to stop using it.

[Casper]

Originally posted by Holt88


Where do you get saying "my" heritage?:watchout: .

How hard is it to get? I AM Italian...therefore, it's what I AM made of...oh, sorry, should I have said it was my family's heritage? Whatever, I'm not going to argue over someone who thinks he's superior because he won't give up on what everyone else that plays the game says - that the .50 is not accurate at all - but keep trying to tell yourself that we're wrong....go ahead, keep going....





Still going? nice.....






A few more times...yup, there we go, you got it http://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Ford Mustang]

Didn't we establish that the weapon WASN'T overpowered? It was agreed that the shooting mechanics and the ability to shoot accurately multiple times or on the move was unrealistic.

And I don't know where you people are getting this "Half a magazine" stuff from. I use the G3A3 and M16 and all it ever takes for me is 1 or 2 bursts at the most.

[Holt88]

There's nothing wrong with the gun, if you dodge left and right, you can avoid being killed. Kinda reminds me of kids who would complain about who had the better super soaker and said it wasn't fair, waahhhhhh, cry me a river.

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Holt88
There's nothing wrong with the gun, if you dodge left and right, you can avoid being killed. Kinda reminds me of kids who would complain about who had the better super soaker and said it wasn't fair, waahhhhhh, cry me a river.



cant u get this through ur ****ing head?????? come one man, thats not the reason. the gun is being too 'unrealistic' and is unbalanced. do u really beleive a sniper can fire off repeately rounds at close range without any recoil in real life? i think not. u should know that the majority of ppl that plays RS3 are agianst the .50 cal than the ppl that are favoring it.

you never said why u used the gun, so my question to you is Why do you like using the .50 cal? (please dont say that you just like it). i like using the .50 cal bc it is fun, but i dont use it anymore bc i got too good at it and the gun was completely 'unbalanced' to the game and i was being unfair to ppl. any true gamer would understand this.

no, this is not me complaining or crying u a river, this is my opinion. honestly u've been complaining too much.

[MerimacHamwich]

Geeze you guys. Why can't you stop complaining about him complaining about other poeple complaining about some poeple using the fifty caliber and complaining to the other poeple for not letting them use it and complaining that they use it? I mean, complain... complain complain, complain.

Complain complain, COMPLAIN, complain complain complain, complain!

The thing is, as was said countless times before, and should be recognized by someone such as you who claims to know so much about firearms, is that in real life, no one can fire multiple rounds out of the .50 within fractions of a second of eachother and still be accurate. It is completely unrealistic. If you want a realistic depiction of the weapon, play Americas Army: Operations on the PC. The game was developed by the United States Army and features the M82 sniper rifle. It is impossible to even fire a second shot (directly after your first shot, not re-acquiring the target) in that game with any accuracy. The first shot is great, the second, no chance you are going to hit your intended target.

Here (http://www.americasarmy.com/intel/m82.php) is a direct link to their description of the rifle. Remember, this is the United States Army's description, not heresay.

On a final note, it is possible for a game developer to put an unbalanced weapon into a game. Just becuase its in there, doesn't mean its fair. There are built in codes in alot of games, does that mean its fair to use them in multiplayer games? Say, god mode for example?

[The Jackal]

50 cal is for p*ssies!!!... ooo wow i got one hit in and killed you, im awesome.... oh and plus i shoot through the doors cause i dont have enough skill to use them... people complain cause its a one hit kill crap gun... you were all over grenade launchers in island thunder to werent ya?

[Holt88]

The Barrett Model 82A1 rifle gained worldwide popularity after pioneering the return of shoulder fired big-bore rifles for shooting enthusiasts. As a result of its unique operating cycle, the M82A1 easily fires the largest commercially available cartridge in the world, the .50 caliber. The semi-automatic operation offers the user the capability of rapidly placing multiple aimed shots on a given target. The unique operating cycle fires the .50 caliber machine gun cartridge yet develops the lowest recoil force of any .50 caliber rifle.

The M82A1 operates on the short-recoil principle developed by the famed American gun designer, John M. Browning. Founder Ronnie Barrett adapted this operating principle to a shoulder fired rifle. The recoiling barrel and bolt assembly acting against innovative spring and buffer assemblies replace the sharp recoil impact with a longer-acting lower recoil force. To further reduce the recoil load, the M82A1 is fitted with a dual chamber muzzle brake. The muzzle brake redirects high velocity gun gas to lower recoil by almost 70%. The net effect is a rifle with the felt recoil of a 12-gauge shotgun.

With these time-proven methods and innovative designs, the Barrett M82A1 offers safety, rugged durability, and reliability to the big-bore enthusiast.

Barrett .50 caliber rifles are now in service world-wide for EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) use. Users have found that mounting the Barretts on vehicles is a rapid and cost-effective method of clearing military airport runways from unexploded ordnance. Others have found the Barrett as an effective means of detonating land mines once they have been detected.

A number of design modifications have been made to enable the Model 82A1M-series rifles to adapt to the latest military and law enforcement requirements. These changes include:

Long M1913 (Picatinny) optical rail to accommodate all sighting and aiming devices.
Quick detachable bipod with spike feet.
Monopod to reduce fatigue in operations of long duration.
Rear Grips to aid in times of inclement weather.
No-tools removable carry handle.
Lightweight bolt carrier—reduces weight by .5kg (1 lb)
Adjustable scope rings—allows fullest range of scope elevation adjustment.
Removable muzzle brake to ease barrel replacement in the field.
New rear sight calibrated for Raufoss (Mk211 MOD 0) multipurpose ammunition.

Also have to take into account this takes place into the future, which means, they make changes to the gun. I can imagine when the next Ghost Recon comes out with the full version of the OICW, which enables you to see around corners..."Oh no, you can't use the OICW, it's too good".

Why do I use it? I only use it depending on our team plan. When I'm assigned to stay put and sit there while my team advances and, I pick the M82 for that. If anyone with a comes up to me with an M16, M4...whatever, I'm finished most likely....all you have to do is keep moving around, then to reload takes enough time. You do know how big the bullets are right? About half the size of you're hand.

[Holt88]

I have enough skill, which explains why in a game, I'm mostly ranked number 1 in sharpshooter, survival and team survival. From the 14 hours I've only played compared to others, my stats are great.

[RudedogX]

Originally posted by Holt88
I have enough skill, which explains why in a game, I'm mostly ranked number 1 in sharpshooter, survival and team survival. From the 14 hours I've only played compared to others, my stats are great. Let me guess, you also use the 50 caliber exclusively right? Yup, damn man, when I was using the 50 caliber, my stats were inflated too...try a real weapon, and you might find that you aren't near as good as you think.:confused:

[Casper]

Now that I'm looking back on things, him being this thickheaded doesn't surprised me....I'm having flashbacks of the whole Madden vs. ESPN debate now :o

[Holt88]

Nope, come play me 1 on 1 and watch you're ELO go way down.

[RudedogX]

Originally posted by Holt88
Nope, come play me 1 on 1 and watch you're ELO go way down. Hmm...let's see here, my ELO is already going down since I'm still getting used to playing without the 1 shot kills, and my friend list is near it's max (it might be maxed, I'm not sure anymore). Might be a bit difficult.:confused:

[MerimacHamwich]

Honestly, who would play with him anyway? Grenade launchers and M82's, sounds like a grreeaaaatt time...

[nardis]

ummm i was just thinking it should be up to the host wether to have them on or not. us people that like to get as close to real as possible wont use them. but if the noobs want to then hey use it.

the .50 cal will literally blow your arm back if fired in a standing position in rapid fire. HOLT88 go get yourself a .50 cal go in your backyard and put a soda can on your back fence or something now run around like mad with the gun fireing like crazy and see if you hit it. nope i guess you didnt huh? if you watch any swat shows or movies the people that use the .50 cal are useually either in a helicopter with the gun in a stand thing or they are set up somewhere watching an entrance. THEY DO NOT SEND A SNIPER WITH A 50 CAL into a house to clear robbers or hostage takers. they send men in with hk .223s or something like that.

as for the m203 they should be more powerful as far a blowup goes but if you launch one into somebody then they should maybe be hurt but it shouldnt even go off maybe i dont know.

bottom line 50 cal should have way moe recoil than they put on it in rs3

now before this turns into a :argue1: session lets take a step back and look at the facts shall we?

[JJaX]

Originally posted by Holt88

Why do I use it? I only use it depending on our team plan. When I'm assigned to stay put and sit there while my team advances and, I pick the M82 for that. If anyone with a comes up to me with an M16, M4...whatever, I'm finished most likely....all you have to do is keep moving around, then to reload takes enough time. You do know how big the bullets are right? About half the size of you're hand.

The .50 cal is the best/cheapest gun for upclose fighting. Thats were most of the complaints derive from. Close quarter combat against a .50 cal reaults in the .50 cal running everyone over.


Thats enough evidence right there that proves to me you are a n00b. :rofl:

From this post on, your post are worthless. You most likely get taken out by an AR in close quarter combat when using a .50 cal. LOLOLOLOL!!!1

And ill be more than happy to spank your ass in 1 on 1.

[Dark Enemy]

Holt Just use a different gun and see how you do. Stop being an ignorant brat. I was one of the people that like using it but it got kinda lame and now im having more fun with other weapons.

[The Jackal]

hey holt whats your kills and deaths in team survival and sharpshooter.... if youre so good post it up... oh yeah and add about what percent the .50 cal was used for each of those... you wanna play someone good then play JJax... and ELO? who gives a sh*t about that crap... course their elo will go down more if they play you... theyre probably higher ranked so if they get killed by a lower rank it goes down more than usual and yours would go up more than theres if the killed you.... happy campin noob :cheers:

[TuffEagle88]

Originally posted by Holt88


Who the hell was talking about walking around all day with the M82? Nobody. I guess some need to add in nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject.

you know something, I'm ALMOST feeling sorry for your sorry ass right now, but then I read your posts and remind myself of moron you are, then I just want to kick your ass. You are the one who brought up the actual characteristics of the rifle. Before you talk, get you're stuff straight. Any well trained sniper can carry this around shooting with no problem. It has the lowest recoil to any other sniper rifle. It's weight is only 28.5 pounds, that's not heavy, unless you're weak. Maybe if you knew what you were saying, this gun allows the capability of rapidly placing multiple aimed shots on a given target. It fires the .50 caliber machine gun cartridge, duhhhhhh. This gun is 1 if not the best rounded sniper rifle.
does that sound familiar?????? because thats what I was responding to. Again and again I hear you pretending to know what you are talking about, but you have no clue. Maybe you are really good at RS3, I don't know and I don't care, but I do know that you don't know **** about actual firearms which is what that post and numerous of your others in this thread were talking about. I would suggest that you learn what the hell you are talking about before you start correcting other people's posts and giving your own expert opinion on the topic. I think that I'll just leave it at there because it seemes like the others guys have been talking to you too.

[CarGuy]

The gun is cheap dude, get over it. The M60 and shotguns have similar damage ratings but they take more than one hit to kill someone.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by TuffEagle88


you know something, I'm ALMOST feeling sorry for your sorry ass right now, but then I read your posts and remind myself of moron you are, then I just want to kick your ass. You are the one who brought up the actual characteristics of the rifle.
does that sound familiar?????? because thats what I was responding to. Again and again I hear you pretending to know what you are talking about, but you have no clue. Maybe you are really good at RS3, I don't know and I don't care, but I do know that you don't know **** about actual firearms which is what that post and numerous of your others in this thread were talking about. I would suggest that you learn what the hell you are talking about before you start correcting other people's posts and giving your own expert opinion on the topic. I think that I'll just leave it at there because it seemes like the others guys have been talking to you too.

You have provided nothing in this topic but personal attacks, save you're breathe. Right here is an example of someone who takes video games too serious. Go find something more constructive to do that'll keep you busy.

And no, just because the m60 and shot guns have 100 damage, range affects it along with accuracy.

[JJaX]

Holt just shut up dude.

I have you on ignore, and i suggest others follow.

You are a moron. Later noob.

[Holt88]

Simple minded person, so pathetic. Told you some get pent up about video games.

[RudedogX]

Originally posted by Holt88
Simple minded person, so pathetic. Told you some get pent up about video games. Actually...you'd be the simple minded person who refuses to see both sides of a scenario. Everyone in here seems to be against the use of the .50 caliber, yet you are the only one arguing for the usage of it.:confused:

Also, to add to this discussion...you can not go into any dedicated server now and use the .50 without either being team killed or killed first. Guys are not tolerating it for a good reason.

[Caesar SYN]

Originally posted by Casper-XBA
Now that I'm looking back on things, him being this thickheaded doesn't surprised me....I'm having flashbacks of the whole Madden vs. ESPN debate now :o

Nice avatar jerky.. where did yo get that idea?

:cuss: (Pouts and goes back to his hole)

[Casper]

Originally posted by LittleCaesar


Nice avatar jerky.. where did yo get that idea?

:cuss: (Pouts and goes back to his hole)

looks for ban button....

[Holt88]

Heres some quotes from other.

Just a tidbit of info, the M82 in real life has a recoil that is equivalent to that of a 12 gauge shotgun..I target shoot with my own 12 gauge and have no problem firing off 5 rounds with quickness...As far as the M82 goes, its .50 cal that is a huge bullet it will kill anything it hits, or at least incapacitate you so your not moving anytime soon...



I agree with Invincible on this one. A .50 cal bullet leaving that long of a barrel would have roughly minimal recoil. In reality the DE .50 would have more recoil given the fact that the same bullet is leaving a smaller barrel. I don't believe the fact that you can fire off 5 shots rapidly should be fixed or even the stopping rate. Given that also in reality a .50 cal bullet in the chest would put you down, or at the very least hurt a hell of a lot. The only patch maybe necessary would be the fact that you can run & gun with it. That should be revised to a "still" position to shoot. Whether you choose to stand or shoot shouldn't matter, but it should be revised to at least standing/crouching still. Does something need to be fixed: yes. Does the entire thing need to be suttled/downgraded: no. I personally use the M82 a majority of the time. I however do not run & gun with it. When I am on the move and shooting it is usually with my backup the DE .50. However in a prone position or scoping an area I will most likely have the M82 out.

Just because people cry about it, doesn't mean UBI is going to fix it.

[MerimacHamwich]

Wow, more heresay and "facts" from some random person on the internet.

Why are you so keen on ignoring the real facts stated by the United States Army as linked to in a previous post?

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Holt88




I agree with Invincible on this one. A .50 cal bullet leaving that long of a barrel would have roughly minimal recoil. In reality the DE .50 would have more recoil given the fact that the same bullet is leaving a smaller barrel.


but still, ur wont even admit that the .50 cal should have more recoil in the game and u just admit that the DE has more recoil. its not the rifle lenght or the size of the bullet(well maybe the bullet depending on how much powder it has in it) that gives off the recoil, its the bolt action part inside the gun that gives it power. so, the DE is a pistol, which gives it less recoil and u can hold it steadily with 2 hands. for the .50 cal....

**** this, im tired of wasting my time trying to explain something that wont get through ur head. u only like the .50 cal bc ur afriad of getting killed alot by using other guns. damn noob.

and so u dont think ubi will do something about the gun? well theres more ppl that hates it than the ppl that loves it. the proof? ur the only one in this thread that likes the .50 cal as the way it is.

[Typhoon Merc]

Holy Sh*t........all over a gun.......in a video game at that.........

Hey guys im all for ppl using the .50....go ahead and call me names and a n00b and c how much I care....but anyways.......

If ppl wanna use the .50 go ahead.....ill own them when i get close enough and they dont get lucky........but seriously WH0 CARES?? i mean comon its a game and we should all remember that and not make death threats over the internet....just let them use it if they want to and stop trying to tell ppl how to play a GAME.

Peace

[Ford Mustang]

F'in people need to grow up. Look how worked up you're getting over a FREAKING VIDEO GAME. GOD DAMN. WHO CARES IF HE WANTS TO USE THE .50??!?! Those of you that made personal attacks really need to get a life and realize how they're acting. Jesus...

The gun is in the game, people are going to use it. If you don't like it, find a different server. How hard is that?

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Ford_Mustang


The gun is in the game, people are going to use it. If you don't like it, find a different server. How hard is that?

not that hard, but i dont support the .50 cal. if noobs uses it, i have no problem bc im always gettin the kills most of the time when i face them.

[j_pcate]

I am so sick of little kids whinning about it! It totally fair because it is a sniper. The rifle is real like the rest of the game. I mean what would these people do if they were on a real swat team in real life. You can't say "hey that guy is cheap because he is using a better gun" Its pathetic when people whine about it.

[MerimacHamwich]

No, its not like real life. Nor is the game. However, if you think you can survive 30 body shots from an MP5 be my guest and try.

It's just sad how everyone is ignoring that link I provided to the Americas Army website where they posted the facts about the M82. Real sad.

[Ford Mustang]

Originally posted by No Fear 23


not that hard, but i dont support the .50 cal. if noobs uses it, i have no problem bc im always gettin the kills most of the time when i face them.

Then that's aight...you handle it like a man and not a little pansy. "Waaah waaah :cry:" :rolleyes:

[The Terminator]

In general, the reason ppl get all "whiny" over an unbalanced weapon is that it turns an otherwise great game into crap. When you want to go hop on a server and have some fun, you're forced to either stick with one of the lower, balanced weapons, and get eaten up by the losers like Holt that think it's fine, or sink to their level, and then the game turns into Railgun Arena. Rainbow 6: Three was not supposed to be rail-gun arena: it was supposed to emphasize realistic squad-based CQB (for the most part). Instead, it's just a bunch of idiots hopping around with an unbalanced weapon. Woohoo. If they had added an LAW, or a chaingun, would you support those weapons' existences also?

Anyway, since RS3 can't get 8 player system link w/ 2 tvs, I won't buy this game, but if I had XBL, I prolly still wouldn't buy the game, because whenever there are unbalanced weapons, there are stat whores that find the only way that they can inc. their stats is by constantly using an unbalanced weapon that all the pros have denounced (respective clans, developers, etc.,), and then doing what Holt did, and saying that you all take the game way too seriously, when in reality, he's the one that takes the game too seriously, since he just uses the unbalanced weapon to boost his stats so he can brag about it.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by No Fear 23



but still, ur wont even admit that the .50 cal should have more recoil in the game and u just admit that the DE has more recoil. its not the rifle lenght or the size of the bullet(well maybe the bullet depending on how much powder it has in it) that gives off the recoil, its the bolt action part inside the gun that gives it power. so, the DE is a pistol, which gives it less recoil and u can hold it steadily with 2 hands. for the .50 cal....

**** this, im tired of wasting my time trying to explain something that wont get through ur head. u only like the .50 cal bc ur afriad of getting killed alot by using other guns. damn noob.

and so u dont think ubi will do something about the gun? well theres more ppl that hates it than the ppl that loves it. the proof? ur the only one in this thread that likes the .50 cal as the way it is.

All that small talk. Come play me 1 on 1 and watch how long you last.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by j_pcate
I am so sick of little kids whinning about it! It totally fair because it is a sniper. The rifle is real like the rest of the game. I mean what would these people do if they were on a real swat team in real life. You can't say "hey that guy is cheap because he is using a better gun" Its pathetic when people whine about it.

Exactly. It's a game. Get over it and get on with your life. That's why I talked about a bunch of kids playing with super soakers and complaining who had the better one, that's the case here. If you don't like it, don't play the game.

[JJaX]

Originally posted by The Terminator
In general, the reason ppl get all "whiny" over an unbalanced weapon is that it turns an otherwise great game into crap. When you want to go hop on a server and have some fun, you're forced to either stick with one of the lower, balanced weapons, and get eaten up by the losers like Holt that think it's fine, or sink to their level, and then the game turns into Railgun Arena. Rainbow 6: Three was not supposed to be rail-gun arena: it was supposed to emphasize realistic squad-based CQB (for the most part). Instead, it's just a bunch of idiots hopping around with an unbalanced weapon. Woohoo. If they had added an LAW, or a chaingun, would you support those weapons' existences also?


Exactly....

Same point i made before. Some people get it, some don't.

[Typhoon Merc]

Originally posted by The Terminator
If they had added an LAW, or a chaingun, would you support those weapons' existences also?

HELL YES!! bring it on UBI :D

[RudedogX]

I'm still loving what happened in a random ubi server last night. When someone found out someone on their team was using a 50, he team killed him, and asked his teammates to trade the rights to team kill him every game just to send the message across!:rofl: This was a random room mind you with people from all over where this occured. Everyone agreed that the guy needed to ditch it. Before you knew it, the point was sent, and the guy changed his gun.

Went into another room, with another random group of people, and yet again the same thing happened. Gotta love it!:rofl:

[DZNUTZ]

hell yea..i remember that...the kid using the 50 was named mada summin....so me and this guy named enternalfire or something of that likes..just traded off every roud TKing him. Mind you, this was after we had asked politley several times for him to ditch his gun, stop being annoying and waiting for the server to launch after all the time had ran out.

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by DZNUTZ
hell yea..i remember that...the kid using the 50 was named mada summin....so me and this guy named enternalfire or something of that likes..just traded off every roud TKing him. Mind you, this was after we had asked politley several times for him to ditch his gun, stop being annoying and waiting for the server to launch after all the time had ran out.

lol yea i remember that. pretty funny. anyway on that presido level, he was TK my team and he tk me 2 times, i was so pissed and was gonna tk him back, but dz got it under controll :cheers:

[Holt88]

To the person trying to use Aim Invader on me, you're horrible. The program isn't even annoying, and you don't even know how to use it. I suggest you finally get off the computer, get you're corpse looking self outside and get a tan, then a life. If you think by sitting there using Aim Invader is doing anything, you're wasting your own time.

[DZNUTZ]

even if i could, which i can't (ask anyone..i'm technoligy retarded when it comes to that ish)....i wouldn't even do that.

A. because it wouldnt' be worth my time
and
B. cuz...it aint all that serious.


I say if someone from xba is tying to get the 50luva.....knock it off, it aint that serious.

[Peepers]

Holt88: For the sake of arguement, let's pretend that the M8 is as easy to shoot etc. as you claim. Even if that's true it's still unfair because it is so unbalancing and I'll TK you if you use a .50. Heck, H-bombs would be "realistic," but they'd take a lot of fun out of the game.

Disclaimer: I don't think the M8 is realistic. Or at least, it's realism was unequally adjusted to the game relative to the other guns.

[Typhoon Merc]

My personal opionion on this matter is it is the GAMES fault.....the game is sooo unrealistic when it comes to the weaps.....i mean whose gonna take a clip from anything let alone a rifle??

The .50 is the only "realistic" weap in the game....

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc
My personal opionion on this matter is it is the GAMES fault.....the game is sooo unrealistic when it comes to the weaps.....i mean whose gonna take a clip from anything let alone a rifle??

The .50 is the only "realistic" weap in the game....


maybe its bc u cant hit chit. and no, the .50 cal is not realistic bc lack of recoil and fast fire rate.

[Typhoon Merc]

Originally posted by No Fear 23



maybe its bc u cant hit chit. and no, the .50 cal is not realistic bc lack of recoil and fast fire rate.

HA ur funny....and by the way it is a one shot kill.....like every other gun SHOULD b.....i dont care if it doesnt have the recoil it has or the fire rate....which is pretty accurate....it would b inaccurate but still.........

[Typhoon Merc]

And anyways who r u ppl to goin around killing ppl for using a gun on a game that they paid about 60 bucks for.....???

U just go on and ruin there money cause u guys r crying over a gun in a game...

[Ford Mustang]

Originally posted by No Fear 23



maybe its bc u cant hit chit. and no, the .50 cal is not realistic bc lack of recoil and fast fire rate.

Don't even say that bull**** because you know damn well that when you're moving AT ALL it takes at least half a magazine to kill anyone because of the ****ty movement/accuracy ratio.

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc
And anyways who r u ppl to goin around killing ppl for using a gun on a game that they paid about 60 bucks for.....???

U just go on and ruin there money cause u guys r crying over a gun in a game...
Wow, that is an incredibly selfish and totalitarian view. So you think that it is better for the everyone else to be pissed off because one guy is using a gun no one likes, rather than one guy being pissed off because everyone else agrees using that gun is cheating?

[Peepers]

Originally posted by MerimacHamwich

Wow, that is an incredibly selfish and totalitarian view. So you think that it is better for the everyone else to be pissed off because one guy is using a gun no one likes, rather than one guy being pissed off because everyone else agrees using that gun is cheating?

Good argument radrider, democracy in action is what I like to see. And a little vigilanteism never hurt anybody...:p

Death to the .50's!!!

[Typhoon Merc]

Originally posted by MerimacHamwich

Wow, that is an incredibly selfish and totalitarian view. So you think that it is better for the everyone else to be pissed off because one guy is using a gun no one likes, rather than one guy being pissed off because everyone else agrees using that gun is cheating?

Why dont ppl stop their ******n and play?? SO i suppose that u dont play wit the Sniper Rifle or the Pistol in Halo either Right? There basically one hit kills...

[Peepers]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc


Why dont ppl stop their ******n and play?? SO i suppose that u dont play wit the Sniper Rifle or the Pistol in Halo either Right? There basically one hit kills...

The pistol and sniper rifle are good weapons, but they're also balanced. The pistol is outclassed in shortrange by the shotgun and at long range by the sniper rifle. The pistol also takes three head-shots to get a kill.

The sniper rifle is almost useless at close range. It has a very small clip and it's tough to get more ammo espescially in a large game. There is no gun in Halo that is unbalancing. Of course I must concede that if you could pick your own starting weapons in Halo, then everyone could pick a rocket launcher or sniper and taht would be unbalancing. So when players get to pick their own equipment weapon balance becomes extremely important.

The .50 calibre messes up the game mechanics, and is so superior that if everyone used it, no one else would stand a chance.

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc


Why dont ppl stop their ******n and play??
See above reasons and the countless other posts explaining why in this thread. It isn't a hard concept to grasp.

[Holt88]

Only problem I have is when people camp at their spawn area and don't move at all. I've only allowed it on some maps because I've found out that some in team survival will never move from their spawn site. I find it funny when some try to come up close to me with the M82 and I just keep ducking, moving left to right as they can't shoot me and then just load a clip in them and finish them off.

[Peepers]

Originally posted by Holt88
Only problem I have is when people camp at their spawn area and don't move at all. I've only allowed it on some maps because I've found out that some in team survival will never move from their spawn site. I find it funny when some try to come up close to me with the M82 and I just keep ducking, moving left to right as they can't shoot me and then just load a clip in them and finish them off.

non sequitur: 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.

2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.

3. An irrellavent post that Holt pulled out of his poopy maker.

[Holt88]

Ben Stein, take that post and shove it where the sun don't shine. I'd like to get the bunch in here with the small talk who yap but don't back it up, against my team, hopefully you know what's good for you.

[Peepers]

Originally posted by Holt88
Ben Stein, take that post and shove it where the sun don't shine. I'd like to get the bunch in here with the small talk who yap but don't back it up, against my team, hopefully you know what's good for you.


What the fell? "I'd like to get the bunch in here with the small talk who yap but don't back it up, against my team, hopefully you know what's good for you." WTF does that mean?

Oh, you mean that you and your "boyZ" would like to go up against the people on this board? Good luck. A lot of the people on this board are freaking amazing--without using a .50! Heck, I bet Ben Stein could waste you. Most of the fifty-whores I've seen are not very good players. They usually have ratios around 0.5x.

But even if that's what you wanted to say, where does the "...hopefully you know what's good for you" part come in? I really don't get that.

[Holt88]

Peepers, I'm going to politely ask you to remove my nuts from you're tonsils. You couldn't even touch me. lololol. I'm still calling you out, yet to even agree to it...sad, talking...but not backing it up.:cry:

[Holt88]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc
And anyways who r u ppl to goin around killing ppl for using a gun on a game that they paid about 60 bucks for.....???

U just go on and ruin there money cause u guys r crying over a gun in a game...

That's because we have some Special enforcers who want to get rid of the M82. Some whiners need to go play lazer tag. I've played on the PC version since it's came out, and it's even better on there then here, and no one was complaining. I imagine the ones who complain smash their controllers through their walls and get heated over it all. If you can't stop getting killed by a guy using a M82 in front of you...I'm sorry, you had better up you're skill level or just break the disc. Just a bunch of unhappy people who want things "their way". Well, that's just tooooo bad because it's not going to happen.

[Holt88]

You got till tomorrow 2 pm, my time...to agree to this, if not...don't bother responding back to me.

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88


That's because we have some Special enforcers who want to get rid of the M82. Some whiners need to go play lazer tag. I've played on the PC version since it's came out, and it's even better on there then here, and no one was complaining. I imagine the ones who complain smash their controllers through their walls and get heated over it all. If you can't stop getting killed by a guy using a M82 in front of you...I'm sorry, you had better up you're skill level or just break the disc. Just a bunch of unhappy people who want things "their way". Well, that's just tooooo bad because it's not going to happen.

Yes, the poeple who use M82's have the exact attitude you described. The majority of players now "ban" M82's and the only few left who use it are whiny kids who just want to have it thier own selfish way.

[RudedogX]

I just thought I'd repost this just for Holt. Since you never responded to it originally, and you seem to think you're the only one entitled to an opinion on here....These were once again...RANDOM rooms where no one knew each other. It has officially become ettiquite to get rid of all .50 cals. So, with that said...the majority of LIVE not just XBA disagree with you. Also, as for your little challenge, I believe that JJax offered to allow you on his list and feel free to face him at any time. I would offer the same, but my friends list is completely full. Though I can probably show up at whatever time you show up to face him. Or don't show up...whichever happens.:confused:

Finally one last thing. I have no problem taking out .50 cals, but when they turn the corner and shoot your foot, and kill you...you know a weapon is grossly uneven. It takes a head shot for any other weapon to kill someone with one shot.


Originally posted by rudedogX
I'm still loving what happened in a random ubi server last night. When someone found out someone on their team was using a 50, he team killed him, and asked his teammates to trade the rights to team kill him every game just to send the message across!:rofl: This was a random room mind you with people from all over where this occured. Everyone agreed that the guy needed to ditch it. Before you knew it, the point was sent, and the guy changed his gun.

Went into another room, with another random group of people, and yet again the same thing happened. Gotta love it!:rofl:

[Holt88]

Aw, no reply?:huh: I had my team ready, but you didnt' respond on the given time which was 2 pm.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by MerimacHamwich


Yes, the poeple who use M82's have the exact attitude you described. The majority of players now "ban" M82's and the only few left who use it are whiny kids who just want to have it thier own selfish way.


Awwww cry me a river because people are using the M82. If some are complaining about someone using it then they need to focus on bigger things in life, I feel sorry for some.
:rolleyes:

[Typhoon Merc]

Ok.....like stated b4...if u dont like the .50.......GO into another server...unless ur like Casper who is a host........

Then i agree u should follow the rules of the host.......other then that LEAVE dont ***** or complain or TK just leave....big deal

[Ford Mustang]

Rude, if you get shot in the foot, I don't know if you're going to be concentrating more on the enemy or more on the fact that you now have a stump at the end of your shin, and overwhelming pain searing up your leg. I don't know, though. And by the way, I have had to shoot people more than once with the M82, it isn't a one shot kill anywhere on the body.

[Kortiz]

that is pretty much what i do.....i'll either put up with it or go to another server.

it is funny though how the folks using the 50 cal. end up being really whiny in general.

they have some sort of chump on their sholder to begin with too.

as long as casper is hosting, i'll try and stay on his server.

i don't like to play unless i know someone else who is playing. it is just more fun that way.

[Holt88]

It's the other way around. People are crying over others using the M82.

[Ford Mustang]

Originally posted by Fosho
i don't like to play unless i know someone else who is playing. it is just more fun that way.

Yeah, I definitely agree with you here. It makes it a hell of alot more fun when it's people you're aquainted with. :)

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88
It's the other way around. People are crying over others using the M82.
No its not. Go into any general server. Poeple will ask if the M82 is allowed, everyone will say no. Then they get all huffy puffy if they are one of the 50cal noobs.

[Holt88]

lololol. Look at how many ppl came in here complaining about it being unrealistic and about ppl using it. And that's the bottom line....because I said so.

[JJaX]

Originally posted by Ford_Mustang
Rude, if you get shot in the foot, I don't know if you're going to be concentrating more on the enemy or more on the fact that you now have a stump at the end of your shin, and overwhelming pain searing up your leg. I don't know, though. And by the way, I have had to shoot people more than once with the M82, it isn't a one shot kill anywhere on the body.


Uhhhhhh yeah it is.

[Casper]

Originally posted by Holt88
lololol. Look at how many ppl came in here complaining about it being unrealistic and about ppl using it. And that's the bottom line....because I said so.

Wow, I Stone Cold reference...now I know you're REALLY cool....:rolleyes:

[MerimacHamwich]

Originally posted by Holt88
lololol. Look at how many ppl came in here complaining about it being unrealistic and about ppl using it. And that's the bottom line....because I said so.
You sure are a smart one...

Thread Title (made by you by the way):
What's the big deal about this 50.Cal?

We came in here and told you. Then you started complaining about how we were "complaining." When really, we just answered your question. Listen child, if you don't want a question answered, don't ask it.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by MerimacHamwich

You sure are a smart one...

Thread Title (made by you by the way):
What's the big deal about this 50.Cal?

We came in here and told you. Then you started complaining about how we were "complaining." When really, we just answered your question. Listen child, if you don't want a question answered, don't ask it.

Listen Canadian. You and your little buddies are complaining. It's ok you don't have what it takes to even become good at the game. But it's ok, cause If I ever see you in my server, I'll hunt you down and make you quit.

[Holt88]

Originally posted by Casper-XBA


Wow, I Stone Cold reference...now I know you're REALLY cool....:rolleyes:

Stone Cold? Get out of your fantasy world son. I guess you're still back in time with the "cool" thing. Too bad there wasn't a way I could set up a test before kiddies come in here thinking they know something about guns, so pathetic. Take into account the size of the bullet and the pure power of the gun, yet others will cry that it's cheap. What a classic. When I want a laugh, I know to come back to here and read you're posts, sounds like a 6th grade lunch room. And now I lay ye down to sleep.

Outtro.

[MerimacHamwich]

I think the pure ignorance of Holt88 deserves a perma-ban. I can't believe he is so blind to whatever contradicts himself.

[Holt88]

lololololol. It's fair game, you're doing the same thing. And by the way, stop switching subjects, guess you really give up, since you lost.

[DZNUTZ]

even your fellow N.Y.ers agree holt...

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/homotyson-thewhiteguy.jpg

[Caesar SYN]

I have a problem with Sniper Rifles being in this game period...

Since I have owned it for about 5 days and have only about 9hrs on the game maybe I am speaking from a position of ignorance but wasnt this designed as close quarters combat game?

What are sniper rifles doing here then?

[Dark Enemy]

Holt if answering your question is gonna get you all ignorant, dont make anymore threads. BEcause we can clearly see you cant handle the truth and that your about to cry and that your a homo and that waste of time. So the bottom line is SHUT UP:)

[Typhoon Merc]

Originally posted by Dark Enemy
BEcause we can clearly see you cant handle the truth

Who ever said that this was the truth....i thought it was an opion :)

[Dark Enemy]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc


Who ever said that this was the truth....i thought it was an opion :)

Well its the truth since we all know it takes one shot to kill with the 50 cal. So that makes it the truth. When i first bought this game I was one of the first people using it. I would go into servers basicly kick everyones ass. BUt when i switched to the g3a3, I got killed more and it made it more challenging.

[DZNUTZ]

Originally posted by Typhoon Merc


Who ever said that this was the truth....i thought it was an opion :)


is the 50 unbalanced in contrast to the rest of the weapons ? yes?


if you got shot in the foot w/ a .50 would u die? NO (unless you didn't make a turnikit and blead to death..then MAYBE after time)


did holt inquire why the vast majority of players online have a problem with the 50? YES?

did people explain? YES

did he care? NO

is he acting like a retarded jr. high kid high on elmers? YES

are you gonna make another dumb post? Probably

[Casper]

Holt - a little bit of advice. If you ask for advice, take it, whether it be with a grain of salt or with some kind of lube, just take it. After bashing everyone in here that gave you their opinion, I'm really wondering why you bother to ask questions like that (see also the ESPN vs. Madden masterpiece).


But thank yourself for getting this magnificent artwork of a thread closed.....