Progressive scan?

[spy_spirit]

:confused: Do the Xbox DVD really have the Progressive scan?:confused:

[Ninja Scroll]

spy, sorry to tell you but the answer is no. :(
Microsoft was originally going to add it but time was running out and it would have made this more expensive for the final hardware cost.
Im okay with it. It would have been nice though, but I feel we are getting more than we deserve for only paying $299.99 for the best d@mn system ever! :)

[DT21]

Nope.

[skoot182]

Once again, :D

no.

[spy_spirit]

Ok thx u all


:(

[Hugh_Jass]

If you don't have an HDTV progessive scan doesn't do you any good anyway. If you do have an HDTV you can always buy a video scaler or line doubler/tripler to convert XBOX to progressive scan.

[LynxFX]

Then you would be better off just paying $200-$250 on a stand alone progressive scan dvd player.

[DOOM]

It Just Might Man, Be Patient...
Many People Were Disappointed To Hear that this Feature was Included In DVD Playback.
(Though The Games Do Play In P-Scann NOW) I Spoke To J. Allard At XBOX Unleashed In N.Y.C..
He Said that M$ Was Aware Of This, SMILED & Said WAIT & See!
P-Scann Was Not Included Because Of Certain Lessening & Patent Issues Which Could Not Be Settled Be For XBOX's Launch...

[l Maximus l]

Not to sound like an idiot, but, I'm somewhat novice to DVD technology. But, what is the value of progressive scan?

The XBox is my first DVD player that I have ever owned. Also, I understand that it has a "Zoom" function on it. How is this utilized?

[LynxFX]

Here you go Maximus. Check out this site (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-10-2000.html)to see the indepth explanation of what the benefits of prog scan are.

Basically with non-prog display the image is displayed in fields. Field one and field two. Field one would be all odd numbered lines 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc and then it fills in field two which would be the even number lines 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc. This causes problems like line flickering, tearing and other weird anomolies.

Progressive scan puts the image on the screen in one broad sweep. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. You end up with a much smoother and film like image.

Compare the bottom two images.

Interlaced image (like 480i)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/images/dvd-benchmark-part-5-casablanca-interlaced.gif

Progressive scan image (like 480p)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/images/dvd-benchmark-part-5-topgun-progressive.gif

Of course you need a television that supports a progressive signal as well.

[K Dawg]

what is progressive scan haha....im lost on that

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Lynxfx
Here you go Maximus. Check out this site (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-10-2000.html)to see the indepth explanation of what the benefits of prog scan are.

Basically with non-prog display the image is displayed in fields. Field one and field two. Field one would be all odd numbered lines 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc and then it fills in field two which would be the even number lines 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc. This causes problems like line flickering, tearing and other weird anomolies.

Progressive scan puts the image on the screen in one broad sweep. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. You end up with a much smoother and film like image.

Compare the bottom two images.

Interlaced image (like 480i)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/images/dvd-benchmark-part-5-casablanca-interlaced.gif

Progressive scan image (like 480p)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/images/dvd-benchmark-part-5-topgun-progressive.gif

Of course you need a television that supports a progressive signal as well.

Wow, thanks Lynxfx...that was the exact explanation I was looking for :) That makes so much more sense to me now. And, I am also understanding what the acronyme "i" and "p" are, as you stated in your example, I'm assuming "i" means "interlace scan" and "p" means "progressive scan".

Now, if you can help me understand one more thing: What does 480 and 1080 mean? I really appreciate your help...I really want to learn more about it as it also interests me :)

[LynxFX]

No problem maximus,

The 480 and 1080 refer to the number of horizontal lines that are being displayed. As with computer resolutions, the more lines the better the image which is why when some people see true HDTV with an HD image they comment on how it looks like you are looking through a glass window.

For xbox games to be 1080i though they will need to be rendered at 1920x1080. That is a pretty high resolution compared to 640x480 or 720x480 that they do now which is probably why we still don't see any HD games yet.