The Prophet

[themoosearmy]

The Prophet is one of the new Covenent creatures we will face in Halo 2:

Prophet (http://halo.ogresnet.com/screenshots/h2_game_screens/Prophet_up_close)

What do you guys think the role of the Prophet will be?

Or do you already have a source that confirms its role?

I think the prophet will be along the lines of a pscychokinetic(sp?) foe, rather than one that uses brute strength. These seem like they would be figureheads/diplomats/dictators for the covenent.

Battle Hardened Foe or Wimpy Politician

[MikeMan91389]

ahh, halo2, its gunna rule!!!!! but anyways, i dunno what the role will b.... interesting tho... good find!

[StudioAlex]

I think it will fight back by pooping in its hand and throwing the poop at you. It doesn't sound like much but I can assure you it is most unpleasant.

I seriously don't think you'll be fighting them too much. On that note, does anyone know if the engineer creatures (from First Strike) will be in the game?

[E Nomini Patri]

Moose, haven't you read the books? Perused the Halo fansites? Read the periodicals?

Prophets and Elites formed the Covenant. Prophets are the political/religious leaders, and Elites are the military leaders. Prophets will each have a unique headdress, and also a unique attack (yes you have to fight them). They are said to have evolved on the planet once occupied by the Forerunner, which is where the technology came from, and why they are so fanatically devoted to the "Gods."

That's most of what I remember from my different sources, and yes, it is all true.

In Halo 2 the story will reveal the Prophets/Elites reasoning for assault and battery on the human race, so I can't wait!

[shapoopy]

what the?? what are the other diferent covenant in halo2

ya that looks kinda cool

[J4320]

Originally posted by shapoopy
what the?? what are the other diferent covenant in halo2

ya that looks kinda cool
So far for the new ones there are the Engineers (they don't harm you, they just like to fix stuff), Brutes (supposedly stronger then hunters and their guns shoot grenade type objects and have a blade on their gun), and the prophets (like SWFM said they lead the religous side of the covenant). And I wouldn't be suprised if there was a new species of Flood. Also, have any of you guys wondered if the flood will take over animals? That would be weird... An elephant taken over by the Flood.:watchout:

[shapoopy]

Originally posted by J4320

So far for the new ones there are the Engineers (they don't harm you, they just like to fix stuff), Brutes (supposedly stronger then hunters and their guns shoot grenade type objects and have a blade on their gun), and the prophets (like SWFM said they lead the religous side of the covenant). And I wouldn't be suprised if there was a new species of Flood. Also, have any of you guys wondered if the flood will take over animals? That would be weird... An elephant taken over by the Flood.:watchout:


what the the hunters are so smart and tough wow this is gon be aesome:cheers: and the flood, theyre cool, and would be freaky if it happened, and just hope no levels like the library:o

[J4320]

What was so bad about the Library? The only thing I didn't like about it was that it was so repetatve.:watchout:

[shapoopy]

Originally posted by J4320
What was so bad about the Library? The only thing I didn't like about it was that it was so repetatve.:watchout:


ys, that and all you did was kill the flood and folow that STUPID ANNYING thing i thought it really it coulda have more stuff like the others

[J4320]

That is a good point.

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by StarWarsFanMan
Moose, haven't you read the books? Perused the Halo fansites? Read the periodicals?


I looked around and really couldn't find much, and no I haven't read the books quite yet, but I plan on getting them and reading them before Halo 2, much of what I know is from reading, and I didn't really know anything about the prophet, but figured as much as you said.

Also why I asked off the bat:

Or do you have a source that confirms it?


Should've added "because I really have no clue", I guess.

[Doom3_]

I looked at the thread about the "Prophets" and they talked about the flood I thought they wipped them out in the first.....WTF?

[J4320]

Originally posted by Doom3_
I looked at the thread about the "Prophets" and they talked about the flood I thought they wipped them out in the first.....WTF?
You could of just posted this in the other thread but anyway, no, they are not dead and they will be back in Halo 2.

[J4320]

I've read all the books. They are AWESOME!:D

[MikeMan91389]

ahy yahy yahy.... im so out of the loop...


I just play multiplayer, no campaign for me :)

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by MikeMan91389
ahy yahy yahy.... im so out of the loop...


I just play multiplayer, no campaign for me :)

the campaign is the best i've ever played.

[Darkshooter]

From that new trailor, i dont think there are gonna b any levels like that. Each lvl is gonna kick ass :)

[E Nomini Patri]

Quote from Jason Jones in the EGM Halo 2 Special:

"The Covenant have a long history with the Flood, alot of interesting things will happen there."

[E Nomini Patri]

The Library was like that because Bungie didn't have much time to finish the game before the Xbox was launched.

If you think about it, Bungie basically had a year to convert everything over to Xbox format and create new content to complete the game. A year is not a lot of time for something like that, so Bungie did an excellent job with the time given.

[Darkshooter]

a year is long though from our point of view :p

[J4320]

Originally posted by StarWarsFanMan
The Library was like that because Bungie didn't have much time to finish the game before the Xbox was launched.

If you think about it, Bungie basically had a year to convert everything over to Xbox format and create new content to complete the game. A year is not a lot of time for something like that, so Bungie did an excellent job with the time given.
Exactly! I agree. MS should have just given them more time but they wanted it as a launch title so that's what it was.

[J4320]

Thanks. I knew he said that but I couldn't quote on it because I can't remember where it came from.

[themoosearmy]

I liked the library mission, but if you think about it, aren't all libraries the same throughout? (essentially), I didn't have a problem with it, except for those flood..things...damn.

[themoosearmy]

The humans believe the flood have been wiped out, but remember, that wasn't the only Halo, and the covenent "have a long history with the flood."

[J4320]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
The humans believe the flood have been wiped out, but remember, that wasn't the only Halo, and the covenent "have a long history with the flood."
So then why again did you post that thing that said it came from the trailer and quote them saying they are exterminated? Did you not know then?

[themoosearmy]

So then why again did you post that thing that said it came from the trailer and quote them saying they are exterminated? Did you not know then?

I guess I didn't relaly finish the post off well, I should have added "so it will make for some interesting plot twists" or something, its hard to convey tone through a forum post. I may not of read the books but I know a little bit beyond the game.

p.s Sorry for the double post above, sometimes I get on a bit...late.

[J4320]

Originally posted by themoosearmy


I guess I didn't relaly finish the post off well, I should have added "so it will make for some interesting plot twists" or something, its hard to convey tone through a forum post. I may not of read the books but I know a little bit beyond the game.

p.s Sorry for the double post above, sometimes I get on a bit...late.
You should read those books. They are AWESOME!!:D

[l Maximus l]

I'm not sure what role the prophet plays yet, however, he's going to look great with a sticky grenade on his nutz :D

[mastar]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
The Prophet is one of the new Covenent creatures we will face in Halo 2:

Prophet (http://halo.ogresnet.com/screenshots/h2_game_screens/Prophet_up_close)

What do you guys think the role of the Prophet will be?

Or do you already have a source that confirms its role?

I think the prophet will be along the lines of a pscychokinetic(sp?) foe, rather than one that uses brute strength. These seem like they would be figureheads/diplomats/dictators for the covenent.

Battle Hardened Foe or Wimpy Politician

thx for the update man ive seen the brute doesn't look that tough but i heard that the prohets are gonna be as hard as the hunters but we'll have to see about that.

[mastar]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
I'm not sure what role the prophet plays yet, however, he's going to look great with a sticky grenade on his nutz :D

lol nice one man haven't heard a good joke like that in awile:D

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mastar


thx for the update man ive seen the brute doesn't look that tough but i heard that the prohets are gonna be as hard as the hunters but we'll have to see about that.

You got that backwards. The Brute will be incredibly difficult to take down in combat (the AI was absent in the E3 demo). There is no indication of how hard the Prophets will be to kill available to the public.

For the Brute, think a cross between a Rhino and a Gorilla, and is alot faster than an Elite (and much stronger).

[mastar]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


You got that backwards. The Brute will be incredibly difficult to take down in combat (the AI was absent in the E3 demo). There is no indication of how hard the Prophets will be to kill available to the public.

For the Brute, think a cross between a Rhino and a Gorilla, and is alot faster than an Elite (and much stronger).

ya i really couldn't remember what i read on another site about how strong or weak they were but now i remeber and fear once again. but not as much when i see the flood again:p

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mastar


ya i really couldn't remember what i read on another site about how strong or weak they were but now i remeber and fear once again. but not as much when i see the flood again:p

You might fear the Flood even more after what I'm about to tell you :)

The Flood in Halo were supposed to have their own AI that made them more tactical then run at you and swing (or shoot), but Bungie ran out of development time. This would have made the Flood a LOT more fun to fight. But alas they are just moving targets.

If Bungie hasn't decided already (I'm sure they have), then the Flood in Halo 2 might/might not have smart AI as intended (better now for Halo 2). So, expect to fight the Flood with completely revised tactics, because I'm sure Bungie will want Halo 2 to be everything Halo was supposed to be.

[thatdude222]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
Moose, haven't you read the books? Perused the Halo fansites? Read the periodicals?

Prophets and Elites formed the Covenant. Prophets are the political/religious leaders, and Elites are the military leaders. Prophets will each have a unique headdress, and also a unique attack (yes you have to fight them). They are said to have evolved on the planet once occupied by the Forerunner, which is where the technology came from, and why they are so fanatically devoted to the "Gods."

That's most of what I remember from my different sources, and yes, it is all true.

In Halo 2 the story will reveal the Prophets/Elites reasoning for assault and battery on the human race, so I can't wait! everyone knows why the covie hate humans, the gods. the covie dont really HATE humans, they belive thier gods do. is a movie i think of halo 2 or something i saw an elite say your" desruction is the will of the gods. we are thier tools. " stupid gods. will, fred,linda,john, and kelly are comin for ya!!!!!

[Stormlord]

I'd say they must have telekenetic or some kind of divine power. I mean human prophets were said to have "powers" why not the fanatical Covenant? If I'm wrong then sorry. :( . I've only read the Fall of Reach and need to read the rest. :yikes:

Although probably done to death I will post pics of the Prophets because they look so sweet.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/xbox/halo2/0710/halo2_screen008.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/xbox/halo2/0710/halo2_screen009.jpg

[J4320]

Originally posted by mastar


lol nice one man haven't heard a good joke like that in awile:D
What a limited sense of humor.....

[J4320]

Originally posted by thatdude222
everyone knows why the covie hate humans, the gods.
You do not know that. How do you know if it's just the prophets making this up driving the Covenant to destroy the human race. What I'm trying to point out here, is that there are many things that can be different then what they appear to be at first.

[Hard Boiled Cop]

My brother has bought the books but I've never read then so I apologise if these are ridiculous questions. Will there be another Halo, if not will they use the broken bits from the original Halo as a battle ground or something? I personally think that the Prophets will not have these telekinetic powers, sticking to realism. If you look closer at that 'making of' trailer you can see the master chief riding on the Prophet's levitating chair. The holes on the sides are presumbly some sort of weapons, or RPG.
I've notice that one of you mentioned that the Prophets will be powerul than the Brutes. I have come to believe this, what if the Prophets are much powerful than the Brutes? I mean they might look like they're in a 'wheel' chair but how does anyone know what lies beneath/behind the chair. Powers of destructive force maybe.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Hard Boiled Cop
My brother has bought the books but I've never read then so I apologise if these are ridiculous questions.

That's what I am here for :)


Will there be another Halo, if not will they use the broken bits from the original Halo as a battle ground or something?


If you paid attention during the opening cinema for Two Betrayals you would have heard Guilty Spark say: "This installation has a maximum effective pulse radius of 25,000 light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life." 343 also refers to the Halo as Installation 04.

In the X-Factor (http://halo.bungie.org/misc/bungiefactormirrors.html) video on Halo 2, Jamie Griesemer says they are going to have huge levels on the wreckage of previous Halos.


I personally think that the Prophets will not have these telekinetic powers, sticking to realism.


In Halo: First Strike, a Prophet levitates an object into his hands from a Brute's hands. I will say no more so I don't spoil the book for anyone.


I've notice that one of you mentioned that the Prophets will be powerul than the Brutes. I have come to believe this, what if the Prophets are much powerful than the Brutes? I mean they might look like they're in a 'wheel' chair but how does anyone know what lies beneath/behind the chair. Powers of destructive force maybe.

I responded to his post with this:


You got that backwards. The Brute will be incredibly difficult to take down in combat (the AI was absent in the E3 demo). There is no indication of how hard the Prophets will be to kill available to the public.

For the Brute, think a cross between a Rhino and a Gorilla, and is alot faster than an Elite (and much stronger).

[ghost 009]

Is it just me or does anyone else here have the urge to just snipe that thing in the head. What would be awesome is if that thing is speaking to the covenant and there is a large group. You just shoot the thing then throw a ton of nades down there. I was just thinking bout how you can shoot out lights like in splinter cell to make yourself unseen.

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Butterz
Is it just me or does anyone else here have the urge to just snipe that thing in the head. What would be awesome is if that thing is speaking to the covenant and there is a large group. You just shoot the thing then throw a ton of nades down there. I was just thinking bout how you can shoot out lights like in splinter cell to make yourself unseen.

I hope Bungie doesn't make it that easy, but yes, I am tempted to put my tactical SG in its chest and pull the trigger.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by themoosearmy


I hope Bungie doesn't make it that easy, but yes, I am tempted to put my tactical SG in its chest and pull the trigger.

I am guessing that there won't be too many combat encounters with Prophets because they are the highest ranked Covenant species. They will be governing their homeworld and commanding battles from flagships, not on the ground fighting human scum. But that is just my guess!

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


I am guessing that there won't be too many combat encounters with Prophets because they are the highest ranked Covenant species. They will be governing their homeworld and commanding battles from flagships, not on the ground fighting human scum. But that is just my guess!

Either way, I'll definately be the one shoving a sticky grenade on the Prophet's nads :D

[mastar]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN


Either way, I'll definately be the one shoving a sticky grenade on the Prophet's nads :D

hehehehe i believe that we'll all get a kick out of that hehehe:D

[themoosearmy]

I was thinking the same thing, but nevertheless, like Maximus said, I still want to do it, whether its once or a couple times. These guys look like they will be bosses (perhaps a triumverate (or more/less) of prohpets to take down at once to end the game?

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
I was thinking the same thing, but nevertheless, like Maximus said, I still want to do it, whether its once or a couple times. These guys look like they will be bosses (perhaps a triumverate (or more/less) of prohpets to take down at once to end the game?

I understand that the books currently out (the novels), elude to the Prophets not being a character that engages in conflict...just orders other covenant instead. But, either way, a sticky grenades on his family jewels will still be quite needed :D

[Hard Boiled Cop]

I wonder how the Prophet will react to a sticky grenade to his chair? Will he jump out?

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Hard Boiled Cop
I wonder how the Prophet will react to a sticky grenade to his chair? Will he jump out?

Yeah, and then MC can junp in and gain telekinetic powers, muwhahaahaaa.:cool:

[Hard Boiled Cop]

The chair must have some sort of firing attacks. I saw the trailer that the master chief sits on the chair.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
I was thinking the same thing, but nevertheless, like Maximus said, I still want to do it, whether its once or a couple times. These guys look like they will be bosses (perhaps a triumverate (or more/less) of prohpets to take down at once to end the game?

The Prophets most likely won't be bosses. Halo didn't have bosses in it, and the Spartan's mission is to capture a Prophet and negotiate peace (Fall of Reach). Also, in Halo 2 there is a high possibility that we will see the Covenant social structure disintegrate. I can only hope!


The chair must have some sort of firing attacks. I saw the trailer that the master chief sits on the chair.


Don't assume too much out of that, just because you see the Master Chief in a chair, doesn't mean you'll use it in the game. ;)

[Hard Boiled Cop]

Ah but it is a possibility.

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


The Prophets most likely won't be bosses. Halo didn't have bosses in it, and the Spartan's mission is to capture a Prophet and negotiate peace (Fall of Reach). Also, in Halo 2 there is a high possibility that we will see the Covenant social structure disintegrate. I can only hope!



Don't assume too much out of that, just because you see the Master Chief in a chair, doesn't mean you'll use it in the game. ;)

Man, I need to get those books.

[Hard Boiled Cop]

Its like I'm reading the books right now thanks to you guys.

[Jester927]

Uh you kill Prophets?:watchout:

[l Maximus l]

I can see it now...a blue fuzzy flashing sticky grenade on the Prophet's sac!!! :cuss:

[mordecai]

The Prophets seem like they will be a boss similar to 343GS, except maybe they will use some weapons themselves. They appear very similar, both levitate, both command enemies, both seem harmless(physically) so why wouldn't they provide similar roles.

And as for that video of the MC sitting in the prophets chair(which I haven't seen), keep in mind that one of the earlier videos of Halo showed the MC using a light sword. Most likely it's just something from the video, not something that will be in game.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mordecai
The Prophets seem like they will be a boss similar to 343GS, except maybe they will use some weapons themselves. They appear very similar, both levitate, both command enemies, both seem harmless(physically) so why wouldn't they provide similar roles.

And as for that video of the MC sitting in the prophets chair(which I haven't seen), keep in mind that one of the earlier videos of Halo showed the MC using a light sword. Most likely it's just something from the video, not something that will be in game.

Why are you talking about bosses? Halo has no bosses.

Prophets will attack, each with a unique attack and headdress.

The video with MC wielding the plasma-sword is from the Halo Mac/PC E3 video in 2000, before they scrapped everything.

[mordecai]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Why are you talking about bosses? Halo has no bosses.

Prophets will attack, each with a unique attack and headdress.

The video with MC wielding the plasma-sword is from the Halo Mac/PC E3 video in 2000, before they scrapped everything.

I would consider 343GS a boss, even though you don't directley fight him. When I saw the Prophets I thought they would be a similar sort of boss(maybe with some attack though).

I really doubt you get to use a prophets platform, it would look to odd.

PS. I know it was from the Mac version, I was just trying to make a point of the pre-video things not always happening in the full version.

[l Maximus l]

Ooooh! Oooooh!! Now I envision two sticky grenades stuck to the Prophet! One for each nad!!!

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
Ooooh! Oooooh!! Now I envision two sticky grenades stuck to the Prophet! One for each nad!!!

Truly a precision throw gives new meaning to the term "head shot"

edit for typo