Bungie's Weekly Halo 2 Updates (Archived)

[E Nomini Patri]

Here are all the Bungie Halo 2 updates. A new week, a new update, and I will edit this post.

*IMPORTANT* If the update is not posted here, don't ask where it is. If it isn't here, it isn't posted. Unless there is some reason I am busy when it is posted, then it will be here when I get back. The best thing to do is go to http://bungie.net and see if it is up.

The Weekly Updates are now finished!

Update 44 (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=306356&page=1&pp=15) 11-5-04 @ TXB

Update 43 (http://nikon.bungie.org/bungieupdates/102904.html) 10-29-04 @ HBO (mirrored from RvB)

Update 42 (http://www.subnova.com/forum/?pid=20041022.195213) 10-22-04 @ Subnova

Update 41 (http://rampancy.net/node/view/8168) 10-15-04 @ Rampancy.net

Update 40 (http://bungie.net/News/Story.aspx?link=6E0AE88B-5C1D-49A0-A53F-FC6C5D846391) 10-11-04 @ BNet (News and Video Update)

Update 39 (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=lastupdatekinda&p=763400) 10-1-04 @ BNet (Top Story)

Update 38 (http://www.subnova.com/forum/?pid=20040924.184244) 9-24-04 @ Subnova

Update 37 (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=qandatopstory) 9-18-04 @ BNet (Forum Q&A & Top Story)

Update 36 (http://www.halobabies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19917#19917) 9-10-04 @ Halo Babies

Update 35 (http://www.forumplanet.com/haloplanet/topic.asp?fid=5258&tid=1474269) 9-3-04 @ BGH

Update 34 (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=superweeklyupdate&p=594145) 8-27-04 @ BNet

Update 33 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=468323) 8-20-04 @ HBO

Update 32 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=509037) 8-13-04 @ Bnet

Update 31 (http://forums.videogames.co.nz/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=5126) 8-6-04 @ VideoGamesNZ

Update 30 (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=eurodash) 7-30-04 @ BNet (Top Story rather than a regular update)

Update 28 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=367511) 7-23-04 @ BNet

Update 27 (http://halo.bungie.org/halo2updates/search.html?date=20040716) 7-16-04 @ HBO (moved from Penny Arcade)

Update 26 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=449458) 7-9-04 @ HBO

Update 25 (http://www.forumplanet.com/haloplanet/topic.asp?fid=1729&tid=1409919) 7-2-04 @ haloplanet (formerly BGH)

Update 24 (http://www.mlgpro.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=1863#1863) 6-25-04 @ mlgpro.com

Update 23 (http://www.raiseyourgame.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2538) 6-18-04 @ 343gs.com

Update 22 (http://www.forerunners.org/phpbbinst/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=126&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) 6-11-04 @ Forg (Yay, my hometown!)

Update 21 (http://www.subnova.com/forum/?pid=20040604.224357) 6-4-04 @ Subnova

Update 20 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=108143&viewreplies=true) 5-28-04 @ BNet

Update 19 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=429975) 5-21-04 @ HBO

Update 18 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=426274) 5-14-04 @ HBO

Update 17 (http://www.forumplanet.com/3dactionplanet/halo/topic.asp?fid=5258&tid=1366678) 5-7-04 @ BGH

Update 16 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=43593) 4-30-04 @ BNet

Update 15 (http://halo.ogresnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1994) 4-23-04 @ Ogresnet

Update 14 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=15139) 4-16-04 @ BNet

Update 13 (http://www.sector7-halo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5928#5928) 4-9-04 @ Sector 7

Update 12 (http://www.forumplanet.com/3dactionplanet/halo/topic.asp?fid=1729&tid=1336751) 4-2-04 @ BGH

Update 11 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=401846) 3-26-04 @ HBO

Update 10 (http://www.bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/0/forums/default.html&fid=1&page=0&rootid=49141&rid=49141) 3-19-04 @ BNet

Update 9 (http://www.halobabies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156) 3-12-04 @ Halo Babies

Update 8 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=391946) 3-5-04 @ HBO

Update 7 (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=247748) 2-27-04 @ TeamXbox.com

Update 6 (http://www.clan18plus.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=537&sid=9c542b6a457db1030d44c6c29e257476) 2-20-04 @ 343gs.com

Update 5 (http://rampancy.net/node/view/6770) 2-13-04 @ rampancy.net

Update 4 (http://www.forumplanet.com/3DActionPlanet/halo/topic.asp?fid=1729&tid=1284527) 2-6-04 @ BGH

Update 3 (http://nikon.bungie.org/bungieupdates/013004.html) 1-30-04 @ HBO

Update 2 (http://rampancy.net/?q=node/view/6676) 1-23-04 @ rampancy.net

Update 1 (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=364018) 1-16-04 @ HBO

[l Maximus l]

Awesome idea! I really was hoping they would have some new screenshots or a movie stream, though...(referring to update #4)

[No Fear 23]

why do i get the feeling that this sounds like its gonna come out sooner than fall?? :watchout:

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by No Fear 23
why do i get the feeling that this sounds like its gonna come out sooner than fall?? :watchout:

Please shush. I don't want to start feeling the least bit of hope I'll be playing this game before december.

[themoosearmy]

I want more screenshots ******! :cuss:

Enough with thinking about what stuff might look like, if they are gonna have updates, I wanna see the game.

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
I want more screenshots ******! :cuss:

Enough with thinking about what stuff might look like, if they are gonna have updates, I wanna see the game.

IT's amazing how many times he starts talking about something cool (as opposed to POOPS) and then says "but I can't tell you about that." What an ass. I think I'd rather just wait to see something concrete than continue reading about the nuances of sound from the left foot hitting the ground and the animation of MC crouching.

Why can't he just say, "I fried a guy with a flamethrower. IT was totally *****in cus his suit start changing colors and his body continued burning after he was dead."

Instead we get, "While playing deathmatch in this cool landscape that I won't tell you about I used a weapon that may or may not be new to halo and it may or may not have been really cool. Ok, I''ll tell you, it's cool."

[E Nomini Patri]

StudioAlex/Moose, apparently you two do not understand the purpose of these updates. They are not for showing off the game to make you pee your pants in awe. The updates are merely to tell you what has happened that week in the halls of Bungie and give you an idea of what kinds of things they are working on. Don't complain just because you don't get a screenshot every week because that is not the purpose of the updates.

Also, don't complain because Frankie keeps things secretive. The updates aren't released to spoil the game, just give you an insight on the incredible amount of detail and work Bungie puts into the game.

So, be happy with the updates because Frankie doesn't HAVE to give them to you. Besides, what other company gives out weekly updates to their fans 6-9 months before their game is released?

Be happy that Bungie gives you any information at all, because they could give you NOTHING AT ALL if they wanted. Long live the Bungie way.

[StudioAlex]

IF that seriously is Bungie's intent, then the intent is stupid. A couple of another updateless "updates" and few will bother to read them anymore. All I'm saying is, gives us something to chew on or just work on the game.

[l Maximus l]

I dig the updates eventhough they aren't showing off much. It just keeps me amped when Friday comes around...it's like the cherry on the ice cream sundae knowing that the weekend is nigh.

I was just hoping for a stream or something on Update #4 because at the end of update #3, Frankie stated that he would try.

One thing is for sure, I don't want to know so much about the game before it comes out that I feel like I have played it already.

It's kinda like a hot chick in a bikini that you really want to see butt naked...but, you can't because she's wearing the bikini. But, what's behind that bikini keeps making you wonder how hot she looks. :D

Okay, there's my analogy for the day :huh:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by StudioAlex
IF that seriously is Bungie's intent, then the intent is stupid. A couple of another updateless "updates" and few will bother to read them anymore. All I'm saying is, gives us something to chew on or just work on the game.

Wow you are really selfish. It's not like Bungie OWES you anything. They can just not release updates that give us little tidbits of information on the development of the game. I think you should be happy they give you anything.

[l Maximus l]

*rubs hands while slumped over with an evil grin*

I can't wait to read the next Halo 2 update....

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Wow you are really selfish. It's not like Bungie OWES you anything. They can just not release updates that give us little tidbits of information on the development of the game. I think you should be happy they give you anything.

What are you talking about. Why is wanting Bungie to give me something worth my time being selfish.

And they do owe something to me and the other millions of people who are going to fork over fifty bucks this fall. Haven't you ever heard of fan service?

I don't understand your devotion to this company. They are certainly a talented developer and I'm confident that Halo 2 will deliver, but I never forget that they are in the business of making money. I know you're still young (and I'm not old, 22) but I think you are being naive in your complete and utter defense of them. Sure, you can disagree with me by saying you think the updates have cool info, like Max, but you disagree with me on the grounds that these guys are somehow infallible, above criticism, and I'm a selfish jerk for thinking of criticizing them.

[E Nomini Patri]

I just think you are being selfish because you think they owe you something, like "an update worth your time."

They gave us Halo and all their previous games, and now they are giving us weekly updates like they did for Halo. Just because an update doesn't blow your mind, doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile. Like many other hardcore Bungie fans, I think any little tidbit of information is enough to last until the game is released.

All I want you to de is be glad Bungie is giving you anything at all. I am not trying to get angry at you for criticizing them. I just think you should appreciate what they are giving their fans, because they are VERY busy with Halo 2 while taking some time out and communicating with their fans. THAT is why I think Bungie is great, they care about the fans, and they make great games.

I'm 17 by the way.

[l Maximus l]

I'm kinda in the middle of Studio Alex and Zero Flaw on this one. On one hand, I think it's great that Frankie is doing the updates for us, eventhough much of it is more fluff than genuine information. But, on the other hand, I think the information is mainly for the most hardcore of Halo fans.

That's why I really appreciate the updates...I'm freakin' hardcore for it...not just seriously looking forward to this game.

I know this may sound seriously wierd, but, Halo 2 is actually going to improve my quality of life :D hehe

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
I just think you are being selfish because you think they owe you something, like "an update worth your time."

They gave us Halo and all their previous games, and now they are giving us weekly updates like they did for Halo. Just because an update doesn't blow your mind, doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile. Like many other hardcore Bungie fans, I think any little tidbit of information is enough to last until the game is released.

As I said before, ever heard of fan service? Bungie does these things because they care AND it helps build interest in the title.

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
All I want you to de is be glad Bungie is giving you anything at all. I am not trying to get angry at you for criticizing them. I just think you should appreciate what they are giving their fans, because they are VERY busy with Halo 2 while taking some time out and communicating with their fans. THAT is why I think Bungie is great, they care about the fans, and they make great games.

I understand they are very busy, but Bungie's choice of what to reveal has nothing to do with that. What I'm saying is, if they are going to spend time doing updates for the fans, they should make them worth their time as well as ours.

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
I'm 17 by the way.

I know.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by StudioAlex

What I'm saying is, if they are going to spend time doing updates for the fans, they should make them worth their time as well as ours.


They've all been worth the time so far, I don't understand what you think the updates are supposed to have. Read THIS (http://halo.bungie.org/haloupdates/allupdates.html) and learn.

[E Nomini Patri]

The new update is up!

(Number 5 @ rampancy.net)

[J4320]

A new covenant soldier!!! AWESOME!:D

[l Maximus l]

Sweet! A new enemy that I get to turn into hamburger :D Nice.......

[Stormlord]

I can't find the info on the Convenant character.:cry:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Stormlord
I can't find the info on the Convenant character.:cry:

Here you go, from update 5:


Bill O'Brien is in tunnel-vision mode, animating a new type of Covenant soldier. Can't tell you much more about what kind of Covenant it is, but you know it's alien and you know it's bad. This guy has actually been partially-complete for a long time in design and AI respects, but now Bill's challenge is to get his transitional animations, when he stops, slows down or changes direction suddenly.

This particular varmint/critter/monster is presenting a number of fairly unique challenges for animation and AI, as well as some tricky problems for the player to contend with.

[CMX Jedi]

why isnt this topic made "impotant"

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by dudeman48174
why isnt this topic made "impotant"


Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaamn good point. If I were a mod, I'd sticky this shizzle :D

[Stormlord]

Thanks Zero :D

[J4320]

There will be a whole lot more characters. I say again that I am so glad that Bungie will wait till Fall. More work in the game the better!:D

[Leviathon]

I think I am like most people...

Just get the freakin' game done and in my hands.....

[mave]

Isn't there going to be a new update today? If so what time today, and what site?

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by mave
Isn't there going to be a new update today? If so what time today, and what site?

Good question...I was looking for it, too...I don't think it's posted yet...but, it will. :)

And you'll find it right here! :cheers:

[mave]

nice can't wait for it:D

[E Nomini Patri]

Check out the new update, very cool!

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
Check out the new update, very cool!

Yeah...good stuff! I really like the detail Bungie is puting in this game..."gazing"? Damn...meaning, you can actually see what your teammate or enemy is looking at...generally speaking. I gotta see this....I wonder how they're pulling that one off...but, sounds great :D

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN


Yeah...good stuff! I really like the detail Bungie is puting in this game..."gazing"? Damn...meaning, you can actually see what your teammate or enemy is looking at...generally speaking. I gotta see this....I wonder how they're pulling that one off...but, sounds great :D maybe it means that when u die.. u go into observer mode and see what they are doing :confused:

it looks like there may be a new screenshot next week.

[Duke]

Originally posted by No Fear 23
maybe it means that when u die.. u go into observer mode and see what they are doing :confused:

it looks like there may be a new screenshot next week.

No, it says that the head will turn. Thus if you look to see where the head is going, you can tell what the other player is looking at by following his LOS.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by No Fear 23

it looks like there may be a new screenshot next week.

Don't expect any screenshots. The updates are about the developing process that goes into Halo 2, not the actual product.

Although, if we do get a screenshot, do be surprised.

[ScorpionX]

Double weapons still sound pretty damn gay :(

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by ScorpionX
Double weapons still sound pretty damn gay :(

Care to say why?

[mastar]

Originally posted by ScorpionX
Double weapons still sound pretty damn gay :(

ya how is that 'pretty damn gay' its a sweet ass idea espicially with new weapons.

[themoosearmy]

StudioAlex/Moose, apparently you two do not understand the purpose of these updates.

Apparently, you don't see the slight sarcasm in my voice. Yes, I do know the purpose of the updates, and yes I do know why everything is being kept secret, but Bungie did release the the first MP screenshot on the same day they set the date in Fall, so they shouldn't be surprised that some of us want to *see* some of their development process rather than read about it.

I also don't have that much time on my hands to read the Halo books and study every living aspect of Bungie and their history, most of my Halo knoweldge is gathered from the game, these sites, and my own thoughts, I do have a job, a life, and I go to college, so don't flame me if I want a screenshot along with the technical side of these updates.

Please don't flame me for sounding a bit mad, but its late, and I get slightly angry when I'm insulted for theings beyond my control.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by themoosearmy


Apparently, you don't see the slight sarcasm in my voice. Yes, I do know the purpose of the updates, and yes I do know why everything is being kept secret, but Bungie did release the the first MP screenshot on the same day they set the date in Fall, so they shouldn't be surprised that some of us want to *see* some of their development process rather than read about it.

I also don't have that much time on my hands to read the Halo books and study every living aspect of Bungie and their history, most of my Halo knoweldge is gathered from the game, these sites, and my own thoughts, I do have a job, a life, and I go to college, so don't flame me if I want a screenshot along with the technical side of these updates.

Please don't flame me for sounding a bit mad, but its late, and I get slightly angry when I'm insulted for theings beyond my control.

I wasn't "flaming" (that word is WAY overused, therefore I don't use it), I was just exclaiming my point of view. I apoligize if it was harsh, but I've seen more than my share of people who say the same thing.

Also, this is what you said:

I want more screenshots ******! :cuss:

Enough with thinking about what stuff might look like, if they are gonna have updates, I wanna see the game.


I can see the sarcasm in the first line, but the second line destroys any illusion of it.

Just wait until the new Bungie.net site is released (very soon). They are going to have alot of new content. Also, when the game is closer to release you'll have all the media you could ask for.

The new Bungie.net will probably be up this friday, one can only hope (It's already finished btw, I don't know what they are doing with it right now) :)

-EDIT-
I have a job too man, and lots of schoolwork (and a life, I think ;) ). If you have any questions about the Halo universe or Bungie, you can ask me if you want :)

[l Maximus l]

I realize that the updates are more for the technical stuff, however, I don't think it would be too overpowering if Bungie atleast gave us a new screenshot every month. We'll see what happens, I guess. Of course, I wouldn't want to see too much...the first multi-player screenshot definately gave me enough to chew on for a month....so, hopefully they'll keep that alive!! Like I said, we'll see :)

As for the double weapon thing...I'm leaning more towards how Scorpion is feeling on that. Obviously, I have all the confidence in the world for Bungie, however, I would like to point out that it's a huge disadvantage for holding two weapons...grenades cannot be used. And, if you ask me, grenades are extremely key, IMO.

Since I haven't played Halo 2, my only guess is that holding two weapons would only be useful in very tight combat situations...but, then again, grenades are key for that, too. I remember reading that Bungie wanted to make sure that by holding two weapons would be an advantage, but, not too much of an advantage. We'll see how this turns out...

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


I wasn't "flaming" (that word is WAY overused, therefore I don't use it), I was just exclaiming my point of view. I apoligize if it was harsh, but I've seen more than my share of people who say the same thing.

Also, this is what you said:


I can see the sarcasm in the first line, but the second line destroys any illusion of it.

Just wait until the new Bungie.net site is released (very soon). They are going to have alot of new content. Also, when the game is closer to release you'll have all the media you could ask for.

The new Bungie.net will probably be up this friday, one can only hope (It's already finished btw, I don't know what they are doing with it right now) :)

-EDIT-
I have a job too man, and lots of schoolwork (and a life, I think ;) ). If you have any questions about the Halo universe or Bungie, you can ask me if you want :)

Well, I guess we're now :cheers:

New update today btw! Can't wait!

[E Nomini Patri]

Hehe, some dude made up a fake update and posted it at IGN. Too bad it was deleted, it had some cool fake information :)

(It's fake because IGN isn't a Halo fansite, and the author didn't do all of his homework)

[E Nomini Patri]

Wow! The new update is great! Go check it out now at TeamXbox.com :)

(Update 7)

[Angell]

The characters are the three-inch tall variants, and Chief gets to sit in a correctly scaled (and therefore giant) Warthog. Best of all, it's the LAV version, with the triple-barreled rocket launcher. The new armor is fantastic looking, and seeing it in real-life is kind of startling. Makes you realize just how imposing the Chief really is. Plus, he's carrying the battle rifle!

Did I read right??? Warthog with a triple-barreled rocket-launcher?


What a heavenly dream that would be!:D

[l Maximus l]

Frankie got me pumped up about the new Multi-player map...taking elements from Halo PC's Death Island, and XBox version of Blood Gulch and Hang 'Em High. Hot damn! Those are all my favorite maps, too!!!

I'm stoked, dudes...

I'm curious, though, how the ambient weapons system is going to work...transitioning from using grenades to a second weapon....because every single button is used in the first Halo. I hope this is a natural thing like Frankie said. In other words, I hope the transission is minimal.

Also, about the use of Surround Sound in Halo 2 versus Halo 1. Frankie stated that in the first Halo, bullets were not in 5.1, but rather were in a stereo effect. Now that I think about it, I completely understand! The sounds of Halo 2 are going to PWN!!!

[No Fear 23]

this update thing is a mistake.....its driving me crazy bc i want to play the game so bad :cuss: some good infomation tho


:cheers:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by No Fear 23
this update thing is a mistake.....its driving me crazy bc i want to play the game so bad :cuss: some good infomation tho


:cheers:

Hehe, I can't get enough of the updates! The information contained within them is just dripping with bacon fried in butter that only a hardcore Bungie fan such as myself can enjoy :)

[themoosearmy]

I know, if they didn't have updates I'd be so pissed, actually, the updates are pretty much tiding me over for the games official release. The new update is as always...SWEEEETTT!

P.S. The triple-barreled rocket warthog debuted on Halo PC, its pretty sweet but shoots very slow, effective close range (but thats speaking for the PC version, which isn't saying much...).

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
P.S. The triple-barreled rocket warthog debuted on Halo PC, its pretty sweet but shoots very slow, effective close range (but thats speaking for the PC version, which isn't saying much...).

It shoots the same speed as the rocket launcher, but you get 4 rockets. It also takes 4 seconds to reload it :)

[l Maximus l]

Hopefully one of the updates coming up will give us a clue on how the ambient weapons can be enabled (second weapon becoming armed instead of grenades enabled). I wonder how it can be enabled when in the first Halo every single button is used. Anyone have a guess? Of course there is no confirmation on anything yet...hopefully in the next update or so :)

[PapaSKooT]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
Hopefully one of the updates coming up will give us a clue on how the ambient weapons can be enabled (second weapon becoming armed instead of grenades enabled). I wonder how it can be enabled when in the first Halo every single button is used. Anyone have a guess? Of course there is no confirmation on anything yet...hopefully in the next update or so :)

Maybe left + right on the D-Pad will "scroll" your left hand weapons?

[E Nomini Patri]

Maybe they will go for a "Hold Y Button" scheme where you hold it for like half a second instead of just pressing it.

SKooT, I wouldn't doubt that they use the D-Pad for the leaning feature (or peeking).

[lotec16]

it will probley be with the d pad, doesn't splinter cell use it?

[PapaSKooT]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
Maybe they will go for a "Hold Y Button" scheme where you hold it for like half a second instead of just pressing it.

SKooT, I wouldn't doubt that they use the D-Pad for the leaning feature (or peeking).

Damn. You win.

How about up and down? :D

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by PapaSKooT


Damn. You win.

How about up and down? :D

Hehe, I have no idea for up and down :)

[l Maximus l]

Oh yeah...the D-Pad :D Nice...

[PapaSKooT]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Hehe, I have no idea for up and down :)

WUWU!

I R TEH WINNAR!!!!!!!

[Angell]

I can't wait for the update where they confront the issue of Xbox Live.... I want to see how they are going to go about transmiting such large packets of information without serious lag. As I have said before this game will completely end my life as I know it, I can't wait :)

There are so many diverse features that are going to be included (such as peaking) I really feel that you will be able to have a fully customizable strategy :) unlike the first one where there were only certain ways to win on certain maps.... (each person develops there own way of doing things) that would also create some sweet team battles.... people with different skills in different areas could be great

Yes, thats great :D

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


It shoots the same speed as the rocket launcher, but you get 4 rockets. It also takes 4 seconds to reload it :)

Well, it seems like it shoots a lot slower than that, but maybe I'm just used to the scorpian's gun.

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Hehe, I have no idea for up and down :)

See the Hal 2 change thread....I suggested the possibility of laying on your stomach...maybe the up portion could be for standing back upright :)

[mave]

Is the new update comin in today?

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mave
Is the new update comin in today?

Read the first post in this thread dude.

[E Nomini Patri]

Glorious!

[mave]

well it wasn't there when i posted before anyway... time to go read it:D

nice update, but it could of been better with a new screen shot.

why am i complaining. I should just be glad there ever are any.

[Angell]

And on the subject of water (a personal favorite of mine) the placeholder water I thought looked pretty freaking good, is being replaced with what the graphics guys say is a much more convincing wave-based shader system. It's so far below that most of it will go unseen – but the designers know that players will go take a closer look when they get a breather, possibly with a sniper scope, so they're making sure everything looks good from any distance.

Why bother with realistic placeholder water at all? The designers could make their job a bit easier by simply inserting a big blue sheet of nothing. It's so that when designing levels, and tuning graphics, everything has the correct context for color and geography.

* Over at the Cananimators' lair, things are progressing shockingly well. Looks finished to me boys! Ship it! But no, tons of work still to do, although you wouldn't know it to look at the brilliant new dual-wielding animations. Nathan has been tuning the idle animations and aiming stuff – and he's made a few subtle, but vital changes.

Two identical guns now look wholly natural, instead of just kind of stuck out in front of you. They reload convincingly, Chief will make slight turns and angle changes as he's blasting, and it's kind of hard to describe how much more realistic the difference in animation between hands makes it look. Just more organic, I suppose. The same thinking is being applied when you hold two different weapons, but that always looked more natural anyway.

An even more subtle thing is the way Chief raises or lowers his arms when you look up or down, respectively. This lets you see more of the screen so that your arms aren't blocking what you're trying to swing and aim at. It's a teeny, teeny change, but it's going to make looking up and down much more natural – rather than simply improving how it looks.

He's also been working on a Covenant weapon that has been shown before – but never discussed. The first person animation looks great, and the weapon has a zoom mode too. Nathan wants to see a really cool alien interface for the zoomed view, but that's something that's still being discussed.

* Rob (who does the designs for almost all the Halo weapons and vehicles) has been working all this week on the same weapon Nathan is animating. He's changing little details on the way the gun looks, and also building in the geometry for the collision detection – so that the gun can bump into walls, or if it's in the way when the Elite holding it gets shot, the gun itself is struck, not simply the creature wielding it.



This is the sort of thing I love to see..... it shows that they are really working on the details...

like making the water more real and the gun hits the wall so it no longer sticks though the wall.... also the gun gets hit and not the thing holding the weapon...

This reassures me that all things will be good in Halo 2 :cheers:

[l Maximus l]

Great update....man, I love Fridays!

[Angell]

** Wonders if this thread should be stickyed to the top, Angell votes yes...**

I think this thread would be worth sticking to the top as so many people post in it (in relative to the numbers that post in the Halo 2 forum) and that so many of us are following the updates...

Just an Idea ;)

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Angell
Just an Idea ;)

Alas, there are no mods in sight :(

[themoosearmy]

*Bump for update sticky*

Awesome update, looks like freestyle bridge jumps and convenent sniping are confirmed, well maybe the sniping.

[ghost 009]

I can't wait for the game anymore. Now that I know I don't suck anymore and that Halo 2 will really be totally diffrent I can't wait to play it. Thats pretty cool how the person holdng the weapon wont get shot but the gun will.

[Angell]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
*Bump for update sticky*

Awesome update, looks like freestyle bridge jumps and convenent sniping are confirmed, well maybe the sniping.

The said its already been shown as well. If you look at the Halo 2 documentary there are two elites that are carring this weird gun. Its long and is held really odd... I though a couple of weeks ago that this was a sniper rifle... I wouldn't be suprised is this was the zoomable covenent sniper sort of gun...

Man that would be sweet! Sniping somone with a plasma sniper rifle.

**Angell's head explodes from the large amount of excitment over the possible introduction of a covenent sniper rifle**

[ghost 009]

Originally posted by Angell


The said its already been shown as well. If you look at the Halo 2 documentary there are two elites that are carring this weird gun. Its long and is held really odd... I though a couple of weeks ago that this was a sniper rifle... I wouldn't be suprised is this was the zoomable covenent sniper sort of gun...

Man that would be sweet! Sniping somone with a plasma sniper rifle.

**Angell's head explodes from the large amount of excitment over the possible introduction of a covenent sniper rifle**

I don't know though. All the covanent guns rays, balls, plasma ammo, whatever you wanna call it go to slow. I would only use it if it went faster.

[Angell]

Originally posted by Butterz


I don't know though. All the covanent guns rays, balls, plasma ammo, whatever you wanna call it go to slow. I would only use it if it went faster.


true. It could gain an advantage if it was a "plasma arrow" sort of thing with a great deal of power and a "slight tracking feature" (maybe as fast a shot as the ghost in the halo 2 demo, that was a really fast plasma shot.)

On a different note... I hope they keep a smoke trail on the Human Sniper rifle... that was the coolest thing...

:)

Though it could be something totally different :D

I trust bungie to make it mind-blowing good

[ghost 009]

I think that the thing looks like a covenant version of the battlerifle.

[l Maximus l]

I love the fact that Bungie is paying so much attention to detail...I mean, the fact that they are pushing the envelop on details that will likely go barely seen just in case someone stops to take a look anyway is pretty remarkable. Frankie mentioned a bridge with water below...and the water is supposed to look amazing...but, while on the bridge, you can barely see the water...but, on the edge, if you stopped and took the time, you can see it.

Man, I can't wait to get a real close look...not by scoping through a Sniper rifle, but, jumping a warthog down there to my death :D

[ghost 009]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
I love the fact that Bungie is paying so much attention to detail...I mean, the fact that they are pushing the envelop on details that will likely go barely seen just in case someone stops to take a look anyway is pretty remarkable. Frankie mentioned a bridge with water below...and the water is supposed to look amazing...but, while on the bridge, you can barely see the water...but, on the edge, if you stopped and took the time, you can see it.

Man, I can't wait to get a real close look...not by scoping through a Sniper rifle, but, jumping a warthog down there to my death :D

Ya but remember you couldn't always fall all the way without it respawning. Maybe you can turn that off in Halo 2.

[Angell]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
I love the fact that Bungie is paying so much attention to detail...I mean, the fact that they are pushing the envelop on details that will likely go barely seen just in case someone stops to take a look anyway is pretty remarkable. Frankie mentioned a bridge with water below...and the water is supposed to look amazing...but, while on the bridge, you can barely see the water...but, on the edge, if you stopped and took the time, you can see it.

Man, I can't wait to get a real close look...not by scoping through a Sniper rifle, but, jumping a warthog down there to my death :D

Maximus, my type of thinking... Suicidal death jumps in the middle of levels just to see the little detail in the level that nobody else cares about but hardcore fans :)

And on the point of a covenent battle rifle... very, very possible

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Angell

And on the point of a covenent battle rifle... very, very possible

That is my guess, because they are similar in size and appear to have the same functional properties in their designs. To make the plasma shoot faster, I would say that the barrel has magnetic accelerators to boost the payload velocity. Look at this picture and decide:

http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/halo2/h2_X03.jpg

Looks a little small for a Covenant Sniper Rifle, so I would say the Battle Rifle comparison is more logical. Who knows?!?!

[Angell]

What made me think scope was this...

very scopish looking.....

[Crazy Joe]

is it just me or is this a 'new' shot masked as a mister chief pic? and again, is it just me or is master chief looking a little anorexic?

http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/h2updates/misterChiefMar5.jpg

[ghost 009]

Originally posted by Angell
What made me think scope was this...

very scopish looking.....

good point. But the elites look like they are guarding something on the inside of a level. If they are are trying to protect that area the sniper rifle wouldn't be a very wise choice. I'm not saying I'm right but I think that a plasma batlle rifle would be the better choice.

[Angell]

Originally posted by Butterz


good point. But the elites look like they are guarding something on the inside of a level. If they are are trying to protect that area the sniper rifle wouldn't be a very wise choice. I'm not saying I'm right but I think that a plasma batlle rifle would be the better choice.

Amazing observation, honestly.... It going to be a bit before I come up with any other argument to them being something other than a plasma battle rifle (which would be sweet :) )

Not to mention I would expect the covenent sniper rifle to have somewhat of a larger scope (like the massive scope on Halo's Sniper Rifle)

Though I have to imagine that if there is a covenent battle rifle of sorts, there has to be some advantages/disadvantages to both... like maybe covenent battle rifle would shoot at a higher rate or accuracy.... and of course with the freezing advantages to all plasma weapons.... :) tasty fun :)


can't wait... Ill think of some more Halo 2 speculation we can pour over :cheers:

[l Maximus l]

Man, I can't wait to check out the new plasma sniper...you know it's going to be sweet!

[Angell]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
Man, I can't wait to check out the new plasma sniper...you know it's going to be sweet!

What I know is that Halo 2 is going to be totally sweet :)

Thats whay I love about these updates... I get to see how the sweetest game ever (future), Halo 2 is being created. And hey, every once and a while I get a little tid bit of information about my future favorite game :D

[ScorpionX]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
Man, I can't wait to check out the new plasma sniper...you know it's going to be sweet!

I'm curious to see how the projectile is going to look... I wonder if it will look like a regular plasma pistol bolt and if it will have a contrail?

[Angell]

Originally posted by ScorpionX


I'm curious to see how the projectile is going to look... I wonder if it will look like a regular plasma pistol bolt and if it will have a contrail?

I'm hoping for a contrail, as that was one of my favorite little aspects added to the original Halo... There was nothing like killing an opponent on Boarding Action by following a contrial when he gave up his posistion after shooting :)


:cheers:

[E Nomini Patri]

A plasma bolt can't have a contrail unless it is like a railgun which looks like a beam. The S2AM Sniper Rifle had a contrail added because you can't see the bullet, and that would be cheap in multiplayer. A visible sniper bolt would balance it.

But, I still think it is akin to a Battle Rifle :)

[Angell]

Just speculation here...

What if you shot the gun and the plasma shot let off a gasous stream (blue-greenish stream) that faded out quickly like the contrail :) that would be sweat :) say if it was a plasma solid mixture some solid burning core that when it hits an opponent it continues to burn... (oh thats a hot figure of my imagination :D)

And to balence the high visibility they could give it more power :confused:




:cheers:

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Angell
Just speculation here...

What if you shot the gun and the plasma shot let off a gasous stream (blue-greenish stream) that faded out quickly like the contrail :) that would be sweat :) say if it was a plasma solid mixture some solid burning core that when it hits an opponent it continues to burn... (oh thats a hot figure of my imagination :D)

And to balence the high visibility they could give it more power :confused:



I completely agree, man...I think the Covenant Sniper should boast the same power as the regular sniper...and have something that resembles a contrail, but is more like a lightly burning stream of plasma or something... I like it....I like it a lot ot :D

[MikeMan91389]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN


I completely agree, man...I think the Covenant Sniper should boast the same power as the regular sniper...and have something that resembles a contrail, but is more like a lightly burning stream of plasma or something... I like it....I like it a lot ot :D

yeah deffinitly, that is one of the sweetest ideas yet :)... i like this speculation, i get fidgety about halo2 now :)

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by MikeMan91389


yeah deffinitly, that is one of the sweetest ideas yet :)... i like this speculation, i get fidgety about halo2 now :)

Yeah, me too, I wonder about the battery power of it tho. I mean we all know the human sniper rifle has very limited ammo capacity, so I'm thinking the covy version will take up lots of battery and overheat pretty good after you fire a shot.

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by themoosearmy


Yeah, me too, I wonder about the battery power of it tho. I mean we all know the human sniper rifle has very limited ammo capacity, so I'm thinking the covy version will take up lots of battery and overheat pretty good after you fire a shot.

Yeah, dude...I agree...I think it's important that they have the same power, however, it's important that they react different...and have pros and cons between both of them. That's the beauty of Halo...decisions decisions! Especially on the run and you decide which gun you are going to drop and which one you're gonna take :)

[l Maximus l]

Man, I'm getting antsy waiting for the new update today!!

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN
Man, I'm getting antsy waiting for the new update today!!

Go grab a frosty (I'll grab a Pepsi) and we can chill out for a bit! ;)

The new multiplayer screenshot will be released in High-Res VERY soon (as noted by the one and only Louis Wu), possibly today!

It is in the newest OXM at nearly full size (the edges are clipped off by the format) which I received in the mail today.

Here's a link to a scan:

http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015265;p=

:cheers:

[l Maximus l]

Man, it's taking forever to download that link....

Here's the scanned pic since everyone and there brother is looking at that site...took forever to download, but, here's the scan:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/zeratulx365/finalHalo2picLOW.jpg

[ScorpionX]

Damn that pic is awesome but....

Still not sign of the human pistol in any screenshots

:mad: :mad: :mad:

and those shields look a lot different

:watchout:

[l Maximus l]

Yeah...this new pic didn't show anything very new except damage and reactions when a person gets hit in a certain place with a bullet.

That's pretty huge, though...and check out that bump mapping! Damn!!!!! This definately isn't a hi-res picture either...this is just a scan...

Hopefully a hi-res picture will be available for the update...I can't wait! :D I need a new wallpaper anyway :D

[E Nomini Patri]

Durn it Max! You made my thread very wide!

I didn't post the picture because the magazine isn't on shelves yet, and I want to promote OXM sales wherever possible. Please take note ;)

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
Durn it Max! You made my thread very wide!

I didn't post the picture because the magazine isn't on shelves yet, and I want to promote OXM sales wherever possible. Please take note ;)

lol, dude...I know, the thread is wide...only for this page of the thread...but, damn, dude...it took forever to download that link...I figured by pasting it here would reduce traffic in the short run :)

Besides...didn't Pontiac come out with the slogan: "Wider is better"?

:D

[E Nomini Patri]

HERE (http://xs.netdojo.com/blamhalo/swfm/finalHalo2picLOW.jpg)

There, now return my thread to its normal width :)

[E Nomini Patri]

The new update is up!

[StudioAlex]

Man, MC really let him self go...

Suck in that gut, soldier!

[themoosearmy]

I especially like the part about 35 master chiefs runnning around aimlessly blasting things into oblivion.

Is it just me or is that the chunkiest Master Chief you've ever seen? My man let himself go for these past 3 years. Two many all night LANs i guess.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by themoosearmy

Is it just me or is that the chunkiest Master Chief you've ever seen? My man let himself go for these past 3 years. Two many all night LANs i guess.

We need to go to the gym and develop some nice bulging man-muscles!

Wow, that sounded oddly homoerotic.

*Throws up a burrito*

[lotec16]

Originally posted by themoosearmy
I especially like the part about 35 master chiefs runnning around aimlessly blasting things into oblivion.



I agree, somthing about that IS really cool.



And zero flaw, thanx for that screen scan of the halo screenshots, nice a much more crisp than the ones I posted, I thought the person falling was a ghost in myn.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by lotec16

And zero flaw, thanx for that screen scan of the halo screenshots, nice a much more crisp than the ones I posted, I thought the person falling was a ghost in myn.

No problem, I like to help people. :)

I can't wait for the official High-Res version!

[lotec16]

Was that your magazine? Is there anymore to halo 2 in it?




I thought they would have put that screenshot in this update.

[Angell]

This is the best update thus far... I love to hear how much they are already playing the game :)... and how much the cinimatics (sp?) are already developed... ;)

The more they talk about it being close to done, the closer a release... or so I force myself to think :watchout:

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Angell
This is the best update thus far... I love to hear how much they are already playing the game :)... and how much the cinimatics (sp?) are already developed... ;)

The more they talk about it being close to done, the closer a release... or so I force myself to think :watchout:
Cinematics.

[l Maximus l]

Damn...I was really hoping for a high res screenshot of the new screenshot with that review, but, I'm sure there will be one soon.

But, all in all, another great review! I love Fridays :D

[Angell]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN

But, all in all, another great review! I love Fridays :D

I know what you mean. I look forward to Fridays for many reasons, but one of the biggest now is the weekly H2 updates ;)

[MikeMan91389]

thats the april one!!! dam, i dont have mine yet :( i should get it soon tho! cheers :cheers:

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by Angell


I know what you mean. I look forward to Fridays for many reasons, but one of the biggest now is the weekly H2 updates ;)

Man, before, I was always excited about it being Friday....and it always seemed a long time for it to come...now it just seems longer because of these updates :D I always look forward to these...

Perhaps I'm going crazy :eek:

[mave]

To me it looks like the person falling is not falling at all, but geting killed by a plasma grenade. You can see the flash od light blue behind him so its most likly a plasa exlosion.

[Angell]

Originally posted by Maximus SYN

Perhaps I'm going crazy :eek:

Well....


You have the highest post count on this site :)
You are only 180 posts away from 10,000 :yikes:
You look forward to a WEEKLY update on a game that is months away
You probably saluvate every week as you load up the page that contains the new weekly update


...but then again your like everyone else here :D (except the post count thing... ;))

so if your crazy, then the majority of us are in the same barrel.

[lotec16]

I wonder if the 35 boxes record the framerate, and they check to see what the lowest point was and look to see if they could make it better.

[Angell]

Originally posted by lotec16
I wonder if the 35 boxes record the framerate, and they check to see what the lowest point was and look to see if they could make it better.

I'm sure that Bungie will leave no rock unturned. Eventually, most everything will have been tested (I'm quite sure as this is the #1 project in the works for the Xbox at the moment). Something as big as the framerate I doubt will go unlooked... It might not be tested now, but It will be at somepoint, and Bungie/Microsoft won't let Halo 2 ship out until it is satifactory to their standards...

Not to mention that Bungie/Microsoft has allowed a 3 month window to play with (Fall 2004).... so they won't be bound if something else needs some work.

:cheers:

[No Fear 23]

bad news is that we got to wait till holidy 04' :( i just read the article in the link with the pics :p


but damn, im getting impatient but i know that the game will be awesome :cheers:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by No Fear 23
bad news is that we got to wait till holidy 04' :( i just read the article in the link with the pics :p


Periodicals lie.

Bungie said Fall 2004, which spans from September 21 to December 21.

But you don't release big games like this near Christmas, because you want to influence sales of lesser games.

(Microsoft game release logic.)

I vote september because:

Halo: The Fall of Reach
The Pillar of Autumn
Halo: First Strike ends in September, when MC heads back to Earth.

[lotec16]

I think it will be november 15, but if it isn't my second guess would be september.

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Periodicals lie.

Bungie said Fall 2004, which spans from September 21 to December 21.

But you don't release big games like this near Christmas, because you want to influence sales of lesser games.

(Microsoft game release logic.)

I vote september because:

Halo: The Fall of Reach
The Pillar of Autumn
Halo: First Strike ends in September, when MC heads back to Earth.

that would be perfect..plus i dont think MS would want the game to be released on NOV. 12 for the 3rd year of xbl. they should release it early to motivate gamers to plan on renewing their subscribtion. im hoping early fall.

[l Maximus l]

Originally posted by No Fear 23


that would be perfect..plus i dont think MS would want the game to be released on NOV. 12 for the 3rd year of xbl. they should release it early to motivate gamers to plan on renewing their subscribtion. im hoping early fall.

You mean Nov 15th, right? By the way, Nov 12th is my birthday :D

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw

I vote september because:

Halo: The Fall of Reach
The Pillar of Autumn
Halo: First Strike ends in September, when MC heads back to Earth.

You're kidding right?







Anyway, I'm voting middle of october, but hoping for september 21. I really don't think the general public gives any credence to Nov. 15th, so I doubt MS would hold something like this game any further for a silly date that no one really cares about.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by StudioAlex

You're kidding right?


I vote September because First Strike ends on September 13, 2552.

Microsoft also said they ship their big games in September, then February. Reinforcing what I said about emphasizing the sale of lesser games during the holidays, because Halo 2 will sell bigger than any other game no matter what day of the year it is released.

No one knows though so it doesn't matter.

[E Nomini Patri]

Check out the next update!

[mave]

Nice update! dose any1 else here think u might beable to be a grunt or a new type of alien? I was questioning this because of this quote from frankie.


"Motion capture has its advantages and disadvantages, but hand-animated stuff gives Bungie animators much more control over the process, and motion capture doesn't help when your character is a three foot alien with back problems. ":watchout:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mave
Nice update! dose any1 else here think u might beable to be a grunt or a new type of alien? I was questioning this because of this quote from frankie.


"Motion capture has its advantages and disadvantages, but hand-animated stuff gives Bungie animators much more control over the process, and motion capture doesn't help when your character is a three foot alien with back problems. ":watchout:

That's for single player.

The multiplayer consists of Spartans vs. Spartans, and Spartans vs. Elites.

[Tony_Macaroni]

I WISH NO ONE EVER KNEW ABOUT HALO 2 AND THEY JUST BRAUGHT IT OUT DURING FALL .... THAT WAY IM NOT BREAKING A SWEAT WAITING FOR THE DAMN THING....ENOUGH BITS AND PEICES LETS PLAY THE GAME!!!:cuss:

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by Tony_Macaroni
I WISH NO ONE EVER KNEW ABOUT HALO 2 AND THEY JUST BRAUGHT IT OUT DURING FALL .... THAT WAY IM NOT BREAKING A SWEAT WAITING FOR THE DAMN THING....ENOUGH BITS AND PEICES LETS PLAY THE GAME!!!:cuss:

Wow, I sure want to take everything you say seriously after reading that. Grow up.

[Tony_Macaroni]

hold ur ***got replies for ur mom ok buddy:cuss:

[Tony_Macaroni]

(F/-\ggot replies)***EDIT***

[E Nomini Patri]

Okay, just because you told me to.

(Yeah, a 14 year old child who thinks I am gay. Wonderful.)

(Oh, he also thinks he has the right to talk trash to me. Excitement.)

[Tony_Macaroni]

i jus dont understand wuts so immature about the fact that i cant wait for halo.

[Chaotic]

Guys please settle a down a tad. There is no need for flamming each other..

[mave]

Yeah u bunch of poopie heads !:p

[mastar]

u guys are making the forums look like a freakin playground.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by ChaoticMage-XBA
Guys please settle a down a tad. There is no need for flamming each other..

Sorry if I was out of line.

*No animals were harmed in the making of this post.*

[Tony_Macaroni]

listen... this guy like follows me and makes fun of mre in every thread...but im still sorry ....:mad:

[StudioAlex]

I hate to be terribley off topic here, but did anyone notice how all the stuff Frankie talked about seemed like finishing touches? I mean, hanging ivy, flag animations, AI fine tuning (so they'll punch you more), and let's not forget, making sure the sound of tire on gravel is entirely convincing. I'm guessing the game must be in the beta stage by now. Even all of the dialogue is recorded, which is pretty much the last thing that is done in a typical game development-cycle. I'm having trouble believing they need another six to nine months to finish it.

[No Fear 23]

Originally posted by StudioAlex
I hate to be terribley off topic here, but did anyone notice how all the stuff Frankie talked about seemed like finishing touches? I mean, hanging ivy, flag animations, AI fine tuning (so they'll punch you more), and let's not forget, making sure the sound of tire on gravel is entirely convincing. I'm guessing the game must be in the beta stage by now. Even all of the dialogue is recorded, which is pretty much the last thing that is done in a typical game development-cycle. I'm having trouble believing they need another six to nine months to finish it.

yea, thats what im thinking...and i think that last year, they said that they were 90% done. the last 10% are probably all the tweaking and tuning in the game to make it perfect. they also have to do some marketing to sell this game.

i feel like it should be out in 2 months, but i would give them all the time they need to make it as perfect as possible.

[mastar]

Originally posted by No Fear 23


yea, thats what im thinking...and i think that last year, they said that they were 90% done. the last 10% are probably all the tweaking and tuning in the game to make it perfect. they also have to do some marketing to sell this game.

i feel like it should be out in 2 months, but i would give them all the time they need to make it as perfect as possible.

ya thats also what ive been hearing on xbox live. and once i talked to one of bungies game testers for halo2 and she said that they are just fixing up the graphics more on it and they just have to work on the xbox live part of it and once thats all done and the marketing and all they'll be in stores about between june and september.

[E Nomini Patri]

Just because Bungie said Fall 2004, doesn't mean their schedule can be completed sooner than expected. If I were you guys, I would expect it in December (Fall is September 21 to December 21), and be extremely happy when it is out earlier. :)

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by mastar


ya thats also what ive been hearing on xbox live. and once i talked to one of bungies game testers for halo2 and she said that they are just fixing up the graphics more on it and they just have to work on the xbox live part of it and once thats all done and the marketing and all they'll be in stores about between june and september.

Remember, marketing and production takes around 2-3 months on average, so the game will be completed towards the end of Summer.

Can I ask when you talked to the game tester and what her name was? :)

[thrAsher]

Originally posted by No Fear 23
they also have to do some marketing to sell this game.

This game is gonna sell by the buttload even w/o any marketing.

I'm thinking Bungie will release closer to the Xmas season in order to maximize initial sales (My money is on mid to late November). That'd also give them a good amount of time to really tighten this bad boy up.

[l Maximus l]

Another great update...man, I finally had a chance to read it today, Sunday...damn, I've been so busy.

I love how Frankie talks about all the cool details in the game...nice

[StudioAlex]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw
Just because Bungie said Fall 2004, doesn't mean their schedule can be completed sooner than expected. If I were you guys, I would expect it in December (Fall is September 21 to December 21), and be extremely happy when it is out earlier. :)

What happened to your September proclamation? And thank you for reminding me what dates Fall falls between because I am retarded. My point was, it seems like the game is very near completion. Perhaps if Frankie described a little more thoroughly, it would explain just what they are doing with this extra time

[lotec16]

I'm just wondering what took so long, optomization? or what because it's been a loooong time.

[Tony_Macaroni]

i think they could let it out now but there would be minor bugs that even though they dont happen often ... the odd time it may freeze or u may go through one spot in a certain level (wall) so u know ,.... every little bug needs fixing. every game has bugs even after elease though...u cant cath em all unfortunately

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by lotec16
I'm just wondering what took so long, optomization? or what because it's been a loooong time.

Halo took four years to make. Halo 2 has taken 2 and a half.

That is not a long time.

[l Maximus l]

Patience is a virtue, gentlemen ;)

We all know Halo 2 is going to PWN all of us!

[themoosearmy]

Originally posted by Tony_Macaroni
i think they could let it out now but there would be minor bugs that even though they dont happen often ... the odd time it may freeze or u may go through one spot in a certain level (wall) so u know ,.... every little bug needs fixing. every game has bugs even after elease though...u cant cath em all unfortunately

Well, yes and no. There may be minor bugs (occasional glitch or fram hiccupp) or there may be extreme bugs (the game crashes everytime two grenades explode together or something), we can't be certain so we might as well wait for it to be on the local store shelf. It's not like Bungie's gonna be like, "well you know, we thought it over and we're gonna release it next month after all, APRIL FOOLS!"

[mastar]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Remember, marketing and production takes around 2-3 months on average, so the game will be completed towards the end of Summer.

Can I ask when you talked to the game tester and what her name was? :)

It was about mid-end february when i talked to her and her nickname is Himoura and she just mostly plays team destruction on mech assault.

[lotec16]

Originally posted by Zero Flaw


Halo took four years to make. Halo 2 has taken 2 and a half.

That is not a long time.


Do you have a link for that? The porting took months.


Just looked at halo.bungie.org they're reports go from oct 2000 to oct 2001, and they were talking about throwing ideas around for the plot.


And I still an curios on what takes to longest to make in a game, excluding testing, which I think would come in first.

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by lotec16

Do you have a link for that? The porting took months.


Halo started production in 1998 and was announced at MacWorld in 1999.


And I still an curios on what takes to longest to make in a game, excluding testing, which I think would come in first.

There is no specific part that takes the longest. For Halo 2, the script and planning was first (obviously), and then after that the team split up into audio, single player, multiplayer, and whatever marketing/production/planning. Those all are worked on simultaneously.

[lotec16]

Not trying to be mean, but do you have a LINK!


And how would you know about whats the longest/hardest? You a bungie employe?

[Crazy Joe]

where is the new update..... i want it want it want it!!!!

[E Nomini Patri]

Originally posted by lotec16
Not trying to be mean, but do you have a LINK!


No, but MacWorld was in July 1999, so judge how much production time went into it from what you see in the trailer.


And how would you know about whats the longest/hardest?


Does anybody know that doesn't make games?

You a bungie employee?

Working on it.

[E Nomini Patri]

Check out the update to find out about Needlers, weather, and BSP's!

[No Fear 23]

why do i get this feeling that they are 96% done and would be done in 2-3 months. i think maybe they tried to set a postive release date at the maximum chance and the minimum chance of being released could be 2-3 months before sept. (this prolly dosent make sense in what im trying to say. lol)

im feeling that they are going to suprise us by releasing the game in the summer.

[l Maximus l]

That was one of the best updates I've read! Very informational...and despite Frankie stating that the Needlers are a weapon we are going to now look for, I still have to see it to believe it :D

Actually, there's a lot of room where that weapon can be improved and it seems that Bungie is all over it.

New improvements to the Battle Rifle? Sweet!

Great update...now I can rest for another week :D

[lotec16]

Yea found on halo.bungie.org, e3 at 99' they say the codename blam!, alought the developement spanned 3-4 years, I think it only REALLY picked up steam when they were bought by microsoft.


Question still stands, what takes the longest other than testing.





dream job = working for bungie... or owning microsoft!

[l Maximus l]

Seriously...I just had to post this...

I think we are so lucky to have Halo 2 weekly updates....obviously intended for the hardcore Halo fan... but, one bad thing is that Friday just seems even longer to come now! :cool:

[themoosearmy]

I'd have to say: Best update yet, but its just like Survivor, I say the every week because Frankie just keeps giving us juicier and juicier information.

Beefing up the battle rifle eh? Got beef get a bun.

Oh and Zero, I just found this today on bungie.net:

"Here's the situation -
An Elite is jumping off a small ledge backwards, and turning 180 degrees to face you, then throws a grenade with his right arm in midair, but gets shot in the left leg, the upper right arm, and the middle of his torso by some Marines with battle rifles, at the same time all of this is happening. Heck, how about he's shooting the good ole plasma rifle in his left hand, too.
How would you deal with all the animation combining together like that?" -StarWarsFanMan

JB: We author a number of different 'hit-reaction' type animations that can be mixed and matched on top of existing animations. Chances are, however, that with all that action going on you're not going to notice the specifics of the enemies' hit reactions.

NW: Do you believe in magic?


Just made me chuckle a bit.

[l Maximus l]

Is it Friday yet!?!?

Oh yeah, it's Wednesday :(

[themoosearmy]

Gettin closer, its thursday, *twitch* *twitch*

[l Maximus l]

Gettin closer, its thursday, *twitch* *twitch*

lol, dude...I'm twitching, too....

Damn, Frankie is the shizzle

[E Nomini Patri]

I will be gone tomorrow, so I can't edit the post until Sunday. Just a heads up, I will be in Seattle until then (Key Club Convention). Hang around downtown Max, maybe we could hook up! ;)

(Hell, maybe I will don my Bungie shirt downtown)

So, just check out Bungie.net on Friday and get it for yourselves.

[l Maximus l]

Zero...coming to downtown Seattle? Damn, I'll be around that part of the area tomorrow (Friday)...

It would be cool to meet you in person and all, but, I doubt that I would even be able to spot you in Halo attire among a few hundred thousand people :D

[themoosearmy]

Zero...coming to downtown Seattle? Damn, I'll be around that part of the area tomorrow (Friday)...

It would be cool to meet you in person and all, but, I doubt that I would even be able to spot you in Halo attire among a few hundred thousand people :D
Depends on if he has the Master Chief armor on or not, "Bungie shirt" could be symbolic of his recent purchase of nightmare armor, lol :p

[l Maximus l]

Bummer...the newest weekly update isn't up yet :(

I guess we'll all have to wait a few more hours

[lotec16]

bungie.net isn't working for me... maybe they are setting up the new site! complete with new screenshot! and free game download! :hump: :hump:

well, scratch the download :D

[lotec16]

Ha, found it before bungie.net put it up, it was on HBO http://www.forumplanet.com/3dactionplanet/halo/topic.asp?fid=1729&tid=1336751

So i'll hope its the real deal!

I really really REALLY wanna see the game with everything turned on, Will it be like the announcment trailor? I wanna see the difference between now and last E3, the last E3 was awsome but i think it's weakest link was the lighting, it was dark everywhere.



** ADD ON ***

Strange, still not on bungie.net, hope its not a hoax, kinda, its a weak one if it's not a hoax.

[l Maximus l]

That has to be the real deal...definately sounds like Frankie...Good stuff...but, very short

[lotec16]

Indeed, but i sure wanna know whats up for next week :hump:

[themoosearmy]

And I know this week's update is teeny. So don't hassle me, man. I'll make it up to you next week.


Oh yeah baby!

Short and sweet this week, lovin the new melee editions.

[Tony_Macaroni]

my salsa makes all the pretty gurls want to dance and take off their underpants MY SALSA sweet frankie

[l Maximus l]

Man, it's Saturday, and the latest update still isn't on Bungie's website. Does anyone else find this strange?

[E Nomini Patri]

You have to log in to see the news post about it.

I'm back!

(We were at the Sea-Tac Doubletree the whole time, so I wouldn't have seen ya Max. :( )

[l Maximus l]

You have to log in to see the news post about it.

I'm back!

(We were at the Sea-Tac Doubletree the whole time, so I wouldn't have seen ya Max. :( )

Damn! I knew it! The was the only place I didn't check :D hehe...jk

[MikeMan91389]

i wonder how melee could be more satisfying... sounds great tho

ITS MONDAY

[E Nomini Patri]

ITS MONDAY

No ****. I was gone. The update was posted on Friday as always. Read the date of the update where it is posted.

[lotec16]

:yikes:

Where do you log in at?

[E Nomini Patri]

:yikes:

Where do you log in at?

Why do you need to log in? You know I always link to it in the first post of this thread.

:rolleyes:

[lotec16]

Well, you said it was there friday, and i posted no it wasn't, then i went back and read how you had to log in, and i couldn't delete it, so i changed it and thats the best i could come up with.

But why couldn't you just tell me? What if you die? become violently ill? Move to africa and don't have a computer? What would I do then?

[l Maximus l]

I think lotec has a point here :D

[E Nomini Patri]

Looks like Friday (http://bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/0/news/news_detail.html&id=2CB5D3B8-5A18-4041-AECF-E280B4DC5C07) to me.

[themoosearmy]

I think we are all a little bit misunderstood here.

Lotec: What Zero meant was, Bungie.net had it posted on Friday but you had to log in to BUNGIE's site in order to view it on friday. The thread HERE wasn't updated friday b/c he was out of town.

[E Nomini Patri]

And power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.

Correct you are moose, correct you are... :)

[l Maximus l]

Damn, it's technically Friday now...but, then again, it's 1:11a.m. It's probably not up yet...damn! :D

[E Nomini Patri]

Sorry I'm late, I was watching a vid with my friends. This one is great!

*Gears up for Monday*

[lotec16]

It sounds like we are in for a different game than we saw at E3, seems like much is improving, and i really really want surround sound now!


Dear Mr. Moose,

Yea i get what your saying, I saw the report on that friday, i was just confused about signing into bungie. Never realized there was somthing to log into.

[l Maximus l]

Great update...what the hell is happening Monday?

[l Maximus l]

Damn...it's Friday at 2:30pm and no update yet. I feel like a little school girl drooling at a giant lolly pop http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/smileys/default/yahoo_drool.png

[E Nomini Patri]

Today will be nice, cause this week we were supposed to get 2 ingame screens and a Jason Jones (the Bungie head-badass) interview. We have just one screen so far. :)

[E Nomini Patri]

Check out the new update at the BNet Underground!

[No Fear 23]

nothing interesting....no screenshots...but good to see some progress going on.

[l Maximus l]

Yeah...the progress seems to really be in overdrive now... I can almost smell the plastic case with the Halo 2 label on it :D

[E Nomini Patri]

Holy crap! Great update today!

[ghost 009]

Holy crap! Great update today!
I am confused as hell where to find it. I go to the updates and all I see is the intro thing and then I went to the forums and I still don't know where to find it.

[E Nomini Patri]

Come on Butterz, it ain't hard to figure out. Read the first post in this thread. ;)

[ghost 009]

Come on Butterz, it ain't hard to figure out. Read the first post in this thread. ;)
oh ok I really am stupid, but I figured it out by clicking the link in the forum. Other person said the link didn't work.

[lotec16]

It didn't a little bit ago, because I think the site had to much traffic, but it does now.

I wonder in the gardens refer to type that were on the huge space station in first strike.

[StudioAlex]

The only interesting thing I gleamed from this week's was:

"He's been tweaking and tuning Elite animation, and you're going to see a far more articulated, convincing Elite this time around. They look much more distinct and animalistic this time around and his melee attacks (duck!) look terrifying, and the way the Elites reload now is almost too much detail."

So the plasma weapons will be reloadable this time around. Very interesting.

[themoosearmy]

The only interesting thing I gleamed from this week's was:

"He's been tweaking and tuning Elite animation, and you're going to see a far more articulated, convincing Elite this time around. They look much more distinct and animalistic this time around and his melee attacks (duck!) look terrifying, and the way the Elites reload now is almost too much detail."

So the plasma weapons will be reloadable this time around. Very interesting.

Lol, I thought someone else would notice that, because "last time around" the elites didn't reload.

[E Nomini Patri]

It could be for the Needlers. Unless in Halo 2 we learn how to replace the batteries in Plasma weapons. I wonder what it looks like. :)

[l Maximus l]

Well, good stuff, eventhough there wasn't a ton of new info. Just knowing that there was an update gave me the goosebumps anyway :D

[E Nomini Patri]

The update was talking about Elites reloading Needlers:

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=415533

That's from Frankie. :)

[E Nomini Patri]

Sorry I'm a little late today, I had to do some manual labor. I tried to run away but I pooped my pants and slipped on my own feces (haha, read the update)!

GREAT stuff in there about graphics and the new UI!

[lotec16]

I just wanna see

A) some single player like last e3

or

B) some bungie people playing the multiplayer


at e3. I really wanna see all this animation he goes on about and how everything is looking so much better. When halo 2 comes out I wanna see what kinda stuff he is talking about that they replace and make so much better. AHHHHH!

[l Maximus l]

Back from Sacramento...I felt crippled without internet access...So, finally! I got to read the review...good stuff!

I want to find out what "Engineering" has for us in "the next couple of weeks" for us to "see"!!

[StudioAlex]

Back from Sacramento...I felt crippled without internet access...So, finally! I got to read the review...good stuff!

I want to find out what "Engineering" has for us in "the next couple of weeks" for us to "see"!!

Isn't that a reference to E3? I would be surprised if Bungie released something truly awe inducing before E3. I think they would like to be the Belle of the Ball, know what I mean.

[l Maximus l]

Isn't that a reference to E3? I would be surprised if Bungie released something truly awe inducing before E3. I think they would like to be the Belle of the Ball, know what I mean.

That could be true...and very likely...all I know is that Halo 2 is going to be friggin' unbelievable at E3 and it will likely steal the entire show :)

[StudioAlex]

That could be true...and very likely...all I know is that Halo 2 is going to be friggin' unbelievable at E3 and it will likely steal the entire show :)

Very possible. But I think the tradition is that something unexpected steals the show. What could that possibley be in such a year, with extremely high profile games like Halo, Fable, and GTA all already known to be coming out? I imagine Nintendo might have something to show us, but I doubt they'll be able to steal the show. Maybe it will be that Project Wolf game that Bungie was supposedly working on all these years.

[E Nomini Patri]

Project Wolf...wtf?

[themoosearmy]

I think everything that Bungie has been holding back for a while (Box art, crucial gameplay features etc.) will all be flung upon us like monkey doo at E3.

On the other hand, they tell us nothing except (only for example), the game will be out 10/1/04, and thats all you need to know.

[StudioAlex]

Project Wolf...wtf?

Yes, I know of something the super zealot does not! I'm going to go deficate on my toys and throw them at predators. Christmas is a horrible time of year.

Project Wolf is something that Bungie was working on when MS bought them. It supposedly may have had more to do with the aquisition than Halo did, that is, before Halo proved to be the best investment MS could have made. I'm guessing it's basically still just in game engine form, but who knows. I've only read about it once, in OXM, but there is probably other information out there on it.

[E Nomini Patri]

Yes, I know of something the super zealot does not! I'm going to go deficate on my toys and throw them at predators. Christmas is a horrible time of year.

Project Wolf is something that Bungie was working on when MS bought them. It supposedly may have had more to do with the aquisition than Halo did, that is, before Halo proved to be the best investment MS could have made. I'm guessing it's basically still just in game engine form, but who knows. I've only read about it once, in OXM, but there is probably other information out there on it.

That episodic game you download once a month/week or whatever? Also, too bad Phoenix was canned.

[E Nomini Patri]

Check out the new update!

[l Maximus l]

Great update! Man, next week is going to be off the hook!!!!

[StudioAlex]

That episodic game you download once a month/week or whatever? Also, too bad Phoenix was canned.

I wish I could remember more. All I remember was that it had a kick ass engine. Maybe they used it for Halo 2? I'll see if I can find the old issue around.

[E Nomini Patri]

Ooh! Early update today! Good thing I am at skool. :)

[ghost 009]

wtf is wrong with these updates? I can never find them. I click on the weekly update thing on bungies site, it shows me some update way earlier this year, then when I go to archived updates the closest one is from april.. wtf???

[E Nomini Patri]

This is the second time you have had this problem. Go to the first post in this whole thread. I update it with the new links. You should know this by now.

[ghost 009]

I was reading on the bungie forums and they said this new update on HBO is fake. I don't even know what hbo is. I know the channel hbo. But the majority of the people there agreed that it was fake.

Nvm, probally just a bunch of 8 year olds.

[l Maximus l]

It's likely not fake if Bungie.net has it linked from their website.

[ghost 009]

It's likely not fake if Bungie.net has it linked from their website.

Ya it wasn't posted on there before, but what they were saying was pretty retarded.

[E Nomini Patri]

SOURCE (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=426400)

It isn't fake:

Frankie posted that from E3 this morning, since it was the only time he would have today to do it.
He has been awake and very busy for quite some time this week... so his usual style and flare are the casualties. It hasn't been posted to Bungie.net because the team is at E3 also...

When I first saw it this morning, I also was suspicious, so I made a phone call...

It is indeed a genuine Frankie's Weekly Bungie Update.

I know Deimos pretty well, and he wouldn't lie.

[l Maximus l]

I could tell that it was Frankie...but, I was a little confused when I didn't see a picture of Mister Chief :confused:

[E Nomini Patri]

He explained it at the end Max:

No Mister Chief today - thanks to limited resources - but I'll update this next week with a deluxe Mister Chief.

;)

[l Maximus l]

I saw the ending...I just think it would have been easy for a person that faked a report to just saying the same thing. I'm simply saying that it doesn't seem like Frankie to leave a pic out of Mister Chief. But, it makes total sense...the guy is probably up to his ears with the stuff going on at E3 :)

[E Nomini Patri]

Yeah, and a laptop isn't exactly the best tool to use MSPaint on either. :)

[themoosearmy]

One guy realized that he could roll the explosive fusion cores off the base rooftop and drop them on incoming rocket hogs - basically a homemade bomb.

Wow, thats amazing.

[ghost 009]

Wow, thats amazing.
Wtf is a fusion core?

[E Nomini Patri]

Wtf is a fusion core?

Boxes on the ground that you can push around and blow up, like Frankie said.

[l Maximus l]

BTW, Zero...Nice to see that you Stickied this thread :D

[E Nomini Patri]

BTW, Zero...Nice to see that you Stickied this thread :D

Yeah dude, I got some "powers" now. ;)

[themoosearmy]

Yeah dude, I got some "powers" now. ;)
Thinkin about puttin the stick on the "features" thread, oh might one. ;)

[E Nomini Patri]

Thinkin about puttin the stick on the "features" thread, oh might one. ;)

Wait for me to make a new list. :)

[Arcane]

bungie is awsome no matter what anyone says. And even though i don't read all of the updates the ones i have read have been well worth my time. So i am with Zero Flaw here.

[FB-Gollum]

Sounded authentic to me. If the dude is at E3 I'm happy he wrote as much as he did. I'd be too busy playing H2.

[l Maximus l]

Man, I can't wait until the next Halo 2 update...should be interesting...hopefully he'll disclose a tidbit of new info just to get us even more anticipated for Halo 2...if that were possible :D

[themoosearmy]

Since I have nowhere else to post it, I'll do it here:

The HALO 2:E3 ALL YOU NEED TO KNO thread crashes my browser (IE) whenever I try and open it. Anyone else havin this problem?

[E Nomini Patri]

I'm gonna be gone tomorrow (going to the Microsoft facility to tour it with some classmates). I will post the update on Saturday. :)

[themoosearmy]

I'm gonna be gone tomorrow (going to the Microsoft facility to tour it with some classmates). I will post the update on Saturday. :)
Slacker!

Just jump on one of their comps and post it up ;)

[l Maximus l]

Man...the update isn't up yet...I feel anxious especially considering E3 was last weekend!

[ghost 009]

Man...the update isn't up yet...I feel anxious especially considering E3 was last weekend!
Ya I just realized today was friday. :bang:

[PapaSKooT]

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=429975

[l Maximus l]

Good read, however, I was hoping for a little more...but, aren't we all :D

Pretty cool how they are adding even more weapons than the ones they haven't even said anything about before...and a new Covenant character and new Covenant vehicle. Also, arming the Brute with some sort of weapon sounds cool, too. Decent info in that article..definately worth the read...but, aren't they all? ;)

[themoosearmy]

Good read, however, I was hoping for a little more...but, aren't we all :D

Pretty cool how they are adding even more weapons than the ones they haven't even said anything about before...and a new Covenant character and new Covenant vehicle. Also, arming the Brute with some sort of weapon sounds cool, too. Decent info in that article..definately worth the read...but, aren't they all? ;)
They showed the brute holding his "slug gun" in the June OXM, and it looks pretty sweet. It has a blade on the back for making salads and such. It wasn't until this article that I am really starting to realize the amount of content that Bunige is holding back from us, new weapons, vehicles, and covies, oh my!

P.S. Ride the Pickle? Maybe hes talkin about Chief riding that covy cruiser hes jumpin towards in the Halo 2 intro trailer?

[E Nomini Patri]

Okay there we go, that update was once again awesome!