Looks like Fable isn't going to smash halo 2's record as i had thought...

[blackiee2002]

They just freaking cut another major feature of the game... to me this was one of the main feature that attracted me to buy the game. :cry: wtf they can afford to implemet gay marriages and relationships, but you cannot have kids anymore booooo sh*t man. %#$@ BBB and lion head. the heck with them. they had basically took freaking 6 years to make this game. and what do we get now sub par stupid idiotic stuff the heck with this. i am really very mad at this. might think of droping my order, that is how mad i am right.

the only way they could suffice it would be to release this feature immediately it ships over live. that way i might be cool with em. else they should STFU :(

they didn't even have the guts to tell us to our faces, we had to read it at a review site.

The feature to e-pro-create your own children has indeed been dropped. This decision was made about a month ago, after E3 2004 for a couple of reasons. The first is certainly the most obvious one; both technically and gameplay-wise it did not meet the quality we are aiming for with Fable. The feature just didn't work as it was , it wasn't fun or didn't add anything to the gameplay. It would have needed more resources in order to get to that level we are aiming for with Fable and we were too busy finishing the game to do this.

We did discuss the topic in the office; I had many conversations with our PR Department and Design Team about this and on how to break the news. It was decided we'd mention it at the European Preview Event we had in July, but for some reason it wasn't mentioned in Seattle during their preview event. So far every feature change was mentioned in our communities, by use of the FAQ or on the boards. As the subject came up at our European preview event it was natural that this was when we announced the fact that you could no longer have children in fable. - As this was freely announced on 14th July it cannot be that the news was leaked by IGN

On a final note this; a director of a movie ends up with fourteen hours of material, of which he makes a two hour movie. The same could be said for the gaming industry; there are always more ideas or features then you'll actually get to see and play in the final game. That's common and normal for the entertainment industry.

For those who raised a concern; you can still get married to as many women or men as you want, and you can still have sex with all of them!

Or as a wise man once said; "Forget about losing multiplayer, forget about any gripes of what "was supposed to be in there," what you will get with Fable will blow your rock off."
remember BBB: release it as a downloadble content
guess gotta change my sig huh

[CMX Jedi]

start eatin
want some BBQ sauce with them words? :rofl:
J/K

[AlBoogy]

Who cares? Your impotent!

[SPARTAN VI]

Wait.. you're going to cancel out on Fable because you can't have video game sex and gay marriage? :confused:

Am I missing something here? :watchout:

[Tony_Macaroni]

Thats not a HUGE deal...not enough to drop the order u whiney little kid.

[studepaber]

Wait.. you're going to cancel out on Fable because you can't have video game sex and gay marriage? :confused:

Am I missing something here? :watchout:

Hey you got that wrong, you still can have video game sex and gay marriage, you just can't have kids....Too bad too I was gonna have some little heathen spawn running around beating up all the other kids. Oh well, that info didn't change my opinion of this game whatsoever, it's still gonna rule my world!!!

[Sheeyt]

Umm wow....Who cares? What was having your own children going to add to the game? As long as I can still marry as many women as I want, and kill them... I'm fine. Still got this puppy pre-ordered.

[SPARTAN VI]

Hey you got that wrong, you still can have video game sex and gay marriage, you just can't have kids....Too bad too I was gonna have some little heathen spawn running around beating up all the other kids. Oh well, that info didn't change my opinion of this game whatsoever, it's still gonna rule my world!!!

He did say "can have kids anymore", good thing he edited his post.

So you can't have kids, so what? Play the Sims or something. :watchout:

[studepaber]

He did say "can have kids anymore", good thing he edited his post.

So you can't have kids, so what? Play the Sims or something. :watchout:

That's what I say! So many bleeps are whining up a storm over at other forums cause this was taken out, saying, "I'm gonna cancel my pre-order now this is stupid", makes me want to skull punch them! :bang:

[Crazy Joe]

As long as I can still marry as many women as I want, and kill them... I'm fine.

:eek:

[blackiee2002]

FABLE FACTS

Here are some things that I've collected on fable that might help answer people questions that are unfamilar with this game. You can make suggestions or tell me if any of these things are untrue and I'll edit it.


Removed Features
- You can not kill children
- You can not have children
- There is no multiplayer
- There are no sheilds
- There are no horses


Your Character
- Your eye color can change throughout the game depending on how you play the game.
- Your character and other important NPCs age throughout the game in realtime (partially) but other NPCs age only through chapters.
- Your character and NPCs do most of their aging through chapters.
- You start the game at an age of about 10 and age until you are around 55. You stop aging at around 55 so your character doesn't die.
- Towns may honor you by throwing large celebrations for you.
- When your character does an activity involving strength you will become stronger and gain more muscle tone.
-You can choose a nickname and pay people to spred it across Albion.
- You can get drunk to the point of throwing up.
- You can take over entire cities.
- Using strenth, steath, and magic will help determine how your character looks. For example if you weild a sword and use strength a lot, your character will have an overall stronger build.
- There are hundreds of pieces of clothing.
- Hair sytles and tattooes are gained by finding cards that have a particular style on them.
- There are roughly 30 different tattoos.
- You can mix and match clothing.
- The game keeps track of dozens of stats such as furthest chicken punted, number of times laid, number of times wasted, etc.
- You can gain renown which determinds how famous you are.
- You gain experience orbs from enemies which can be used to increase stats of your chose.
- You can eat and drink foods and liquids to keep yourself healthy. Depending on which types of foods you eat your character can be in better or worse shape.


Your Possesions
- You can buy/sell shops, taverns, houses, etc. (possibly shipyards and inns).
- You can steal property through assassination, trickery, etc.
- You can rent out your houses.
- You can run shops and pubs (possibly shipyards and inns).
- Ability to buy things such as furniture for your home/s.
- Your character has a bottomless item bag which holds an unlimitted number of items.


Fighting and Magic
- You can use weapons such as swords to block.
- There are dozens of different types of enemies.
- During combat you can lock on to enemies, sidestep, and roll similar to the most recent Zelda games.
- If you string together attacks, you'll gain the option of performing a more powerful attack, called a flourish.
- Magic is known as 'Will'.
- You can die in battle but usually your character will just be knocked out and dragged back by a villager to a nearby town.
- There are over fifty different types of weapons including swords, machetes, spears, axes, hammers, pick axes, meat cleavers, staffs, maces, morning stars, long bows, cross bows, brass knuckles, etc.
- All weapons can be customized and upgraded.
- When firing a long bow or cross bow the strength of arrow is determined by how far you pull back the arrow.
- Weilding heavier weapons requires more strength to weild then lighter weapons.
- Cross bows need to be loaded. They are not rapid fire.
- You can go into first person and zoom in when shooting a long ranged weapon like a long bow.
- There are weapon straps.
- There is unlimited ammo for long ranged weapons.
- Arrows stick into wooden substances.
- Therea are 16 different unique magic spells (which can be upgraded).
- Certain enemies are massive. (for example mountain trolls are said to be approx. 8 times the size of your character)
- There is a training section at the Guild
- Enemies also attack NPCs such as bandits, and other heros.
- You can decapitate enemies.



NPC Interaction
- The D-pad can be mapped with dozens of various actions to interact with characters such as, farting, thrusting hips, evil laughing, grunting, slapping, giving the middle finger, etc. You can hold 4 at a time on the D-pad and the rest in a menu.
- You can become famous, respected, liked, loved, hated, feared, immitated, admired, etc. by different NPCs depending on your actions.
- Romantic relationships with both heterosexuals and homosexuals will be possible.
- You can pick on and harass children
- You can kill most adults.
- You can get married.
- Your wife may choose to leave you.
- You can cheat on you wife and even have multiply wifes in different towns/cities as long as they don't find out about each other.
- You can bribe, apoligize, taunt guards, etc. into letting you get away with a crime.
- Villagers live their everyday lifes from one event to another in a routine manner.
- There are nine other heros in Albion to complete with, three evil, three good, and three neutral.
- People may cheer or run away based on if they think your good or evil.
- People may choose to fight by your side.
- Hundreds of NPCs to interact with etc.
- People react to you depending partially on how you look.
- Most NPCs run on one of three different AI systems.


The World
- Takes place in the land of Albion, a huge island filled with numerous ravines, forests, mountains, hills, coasts, streams, lakes, ruins, dungeons, towns, and cities.
- The world of Albion has a day/night system, with the villagers behaviours reacting appropriately to the time of the day.
- Weather effects include wind, rain, snow, fog, etc.
- There is a simulated moving sun, and moon to match what hour of the day it is.
- The world of Albion has different races of people.
- There are snowy areas in Albion.
- There are at least 8 major towns/cities/settlements in Albion.
- Many different styles of towns including, farm based towns, medival towns, forts, native american, etc.
- There are over 200 'significant' NPCs to interact with.
- Albion is said to be approx. 4-8 Square Km.
- There is a battle stadium in Albion where you can fight for money.
- The guild in Albion is where you can accept missions for awards.
- You can be kicked out of parts of Albion for periods of time if you break the law.
- Your character is able to walk off of most paths in Albion.
- There are many secrets in the world of Albion.
- The world of Albion has an economic system. There is a supply and demand system that changes.
- 1 day in Albion equals 48 minutes in realtime.

Graphics and Sound
- When your character is hit he flashes red.
- Metal substances like sword and axe blades shine when light hits them.
- Your clothing, hair, etc. moves realisticlly as you run
- Nearly all plot cutscenes are done in 2D art.
- Runs at 30 frames per second.
- Play is from a third-person perspective.
- Shadows realisticlly mimic your body
- There are blood stains on things like clothing, armor, weapons, and trees.
- There are different types of clouds.
- Clouds move realisticlly across the sky.
- Taverns have their own music.
- All dialog is voiced with british actors.

Misc
- There are non-aggressive creatures such as butterflies, birds, etc.
- Once you beat the main quest you can continue playing.
- There are any mini-games such as gambling and fishing.
- Your character has a journel to record effents, quests, etc.
- If you commit a crime and someone sees you they may chose to alert the guards.
- You can break into houses to steal things, pickpocket people, etc.
- Over 22,000 lines of dialog (approx. 160,000 words of dialog)
- Your character has a journel to record events, quests, etc.
- There are various forms of transportation such as teleportation.
- Rated M for Mature (Blood, Strong Language, Violence, Sexual Content).
- Your character's most memorable moments will be painted on huge murals that can be viewed in the guild.
- Takes an estimated 20-30 hours to complete main quests.
- Takes an estimated 100+ hours to complete the entire game.
- The game lets you save before and after missions and at other points in the game. There are also autosaves.
- The story starts out just after your village was attacked. Your father was murdered and your mother and sister kidnapped.
- There are many destructable environments.
- 4 years in the making.
- There are dozens of trophies to impress people with, such as a giant wasp head, and fish tophies.
- There is sex in the game that you can watch to some degree.
- Most controlls are customizible.
- There is no swimming but you can wade through water.
- Free bonus disc if preordered from Gamestop or EB Games. Disc includes behind the scenes, interviews, playable demo of Sudeki and other Xbox titles.
- Fable game disc also includes other Xbox game demos.
- Releases Septemer 14th in the United States, and October 8th in Europe

[LynxFX]

The feature just didn't work as it was , it wasn't fun or didn't add anything to the gameplay.
That pretty much says it right there. If it doesn't work, don't keep it in.

[blackiee2002]

That pretty much says it right there. If it doesn't work, don't keep it in.

i believe we should be the judge of that not them.

[BananaMan]

who the HELL would want gay marriage in a video game, it's bad enough you have to watch it on the news.

[LynxFX]

i believe we should be the judge of that not them.
Why? It's their game. If you have been working years on something and know every nook and cranny of the game and story and how it fits into your vision of the game, and then there is this one little feature that does nothing to enhance that, or doesn't live up to the rest of the game, then you have every right to remove it. To go back to a movie analogy, there's a reason why there are deleted scenes. They just don't work.

I trust their judgement on the feature a lot more than random gamers.

[Mahz]

My friend's aborted fetus has better logic than you do. =(

Either you think you're funny or you need to stop threadmaking.

[studepaber]

Thanks for all the info on the game blackee, there were a couple things there that I had yet to hear about. :)

[thAshAdyOne]

damn...i really did want to becaome a child serial killer! Aww man, i'm not buying this game!!

[TOTTEN]

damn...i really did want to becaome a child serial killer! Aww man, i'm not buying this game!!
Hes not lying we were talking on msn about it. lol

[Olaf the Proud]

I don't care as long as they write it in as a funny story like he lost the abilty to have childern after geting freaky with a goat and through the whole game peope call you a goat F#@$er.

[Brevity]

who the HELL would want gay marriage in a video game, it's bad enough you have to watch it on the news.
Agreed.

No offspring = no real losses with in the game. I just hope its more than 20-30 hours of game play.

[Ford Mustang]

I was kinda hoping you'd be able to ride horses...It seems like such a simple thing to implement...yet they didn't...Pisses me off...

[blackiee2002]

My friend's aborted fetus has better logic than you do. =(

Either you think you're funny or you need to stop threadmaking.

look who is talking. you need to STFU NOOOB
build a reputation here before you speak out of your a$$

[RockTheCasba]

dude id buy this game if it dropped the thrust and that is the only reason im buying it lol

[severd hed]

ok..i have to admit, i havent been following this game, because i dont like RPGs. i have no real interest in it. but it sounds like the developers are focosing on the wrong things.. the guy wont be able to ride a horse, but he can ride his boyfriend...thats just wrong. any game featuring gay sex will not get anywhere near my xboxes

[skorp]

I didn't even know about the "having a kid" possibility in the game... Interesting!

It would be cool to hop on a horse though... That would have been fun and maybe
train it as you play along. Like a Ranger. :confused: :D

Well at least we still get to kick chickens! hahahaa.. j/k

[George89]

well don't forget, there can always be a Fable sequel :)

but really , I don't care too much that you can't have kids...not a big deal to me.

[Shadow20002]

Huh......hmm....ok....gay marriages....

[Ford Mustang]

Think about all the possibilities if you could ride a horse...You could be like a knight and hack people as you ride by them...A Hun-like Cavalry Archer...Or a Scout sort of thing...Really dissappointing that they chose not to include horses in the game.

[Soundscape]

who the HELL would want gay marriage in a video game
ME! i'm gonna play as a chick just so i can see two chicks go at it! that should be interesting ;)

[Darkside]

Uuhh I don't think you can play as a girl dude.


Just make your guy uber feminine.

[Soundscape]

oh, i thought you could.
anyways this game might stir up some controversy if it actually shows men having(what is obviously) sex.

[lax_defense]

FABLE FACTS

Here are some things that I've collected on fable that might help answer people questions that are unfamilar with this game. You can make suggestions or tell me if any of these things are untrue and I'll edit it.


Removed Features
- You can not kill children
- You can not have children
- There is no multiplayer
- There are no sheilds
- There are no horses


Your Character
- Your eye color can change throughout the game depending on how you play the game.
- Your character and other important NPCs age throughout the game in realtime (partially) but other NPCs age only through chapters.
- Your character and NPCs do most of their aging through chapters.
- You start the game at an age of about 10 and age until you are around 55. You stop aging at around 55 so your character doesn't die.
- Towns may honor you by throwing large celebrations for you.
- When your character does an activity involving strength you will become stronger and gain more muscle tone.
-You can choose a nickname and pay people to spred it across Albion.
- You can get drunk to the point of throwing up.
- You can take over entire cities.
- Using strenth, steath, and magic will help determine how your character looks. For example if you weild a sword and use strength a lot, your character will have an overall stronger build.
- There are hundreds of pieces of clothing.
- Hair sytles and tattooes are gained by finding cards that have a particular style on them.
- There are roughly 30 different tattoos.
- You can mix and match clothing.
- The game keeps track of dozens of stats such as furthest chicken punted, number of times laid, number of times wasted, etc.
- You can gain renown which determinds how famous you are.
- You gain experience orbs from enemies which can be used to increase stats of your chose.
- You can eat and drink foods and liquids to keep yourself healthy. Depending on which types of foods you eat your character can be in better or worse shape.


Your Possesions
- You can buy/sell shops, taverns, houses, etc. (possibly shipyards and inns).
- You can steal property through assassination, trickery, etc.
- You can rent out your houses.
- You can run shops and pubs (possibly shipyards and inns).
- Ability to buy things such as furniture for your home/s.
- Your character has a bottomless item bag which holds an unlimitted number of items.


Fighting and Magic
- You can use weapons such as swords to block.
- There are dozens of different types of enemies.
- During combat you can lock on to enemies, sidestep, and roll similar to the most recent Zelda games.
- If you string together attacks, you'll gain the option of performing a more powerful attack, called a flourish.
- Magic is known as 'Will'.
- You can die in battle but usually your character will just be knocked out and dragged back by a villager to a nearby town.
- There are over fifty different types of weapons including swords, machetes, spears, axes, hammers, pick axes, meat cleavers, staffs, maces, morning stars, long bows, cross bows, brass knuckles, etc.
- All weapons can be customized and upgraded.
- When firing a long bow or cross bow the strength of arrow is determined by how far you pull back the arrow.
- Weilding heavier weapons requires more strength to weild then lighter weapons.
- Cross bows need to be loaded. They are not rapid fire.
- You can go into first person and zoom in when shooting a long ranged weapon like a long bow.
- There are weapon straps.
- There is unlimited ammo for long ranged weapons.
- Arrows stick into wooden substances.
- Therea are 16 different unique magic spells (which can be upgraded).
- Certain enemies are massive. (for example mountain trolls are said to be approx. 8 times the size of your character)
- There is a training section at the Guild
- Enemies also attack NPCs such as bandits, and other heros.
- You can decapitate enemies.



NPC Interaction
- The D-pad can be mapped with dozens of various actions to interact with characters such as, farting, thrusting hips, evil laughing, grunting, slapping, giving the middle finger, etc. You can hold 4 at a time on the D-pad and the rest in a menu.
- You can become famous, respected, liked, loved, hated, feared, immitated, admired, etc. by different NPCs depending on your actions.
- Romantic relationships with both heterosexuals and homosexuals will be possible.
- You can pick on and harass children
- You can kill most adults.
- You can get married.
- Your wife may choose to leave you.
- You can cheat on you wife and even have multiply wifes in different towns/cities as long as they don't find out about each other.
- You can bribe, apoligize, taunt guards, etc. into letting you get away with a crime.
- Villagers live their everyday lifes from one event to another in a routine manner.
- There are nine other heros in Albion to complete with, three evil, three good, and three neutral.
- People may cheer or run away based on if they think your good or evil.
- People may choose to fight by your side.
- Hundreds of NPCs to interact with etc.
- People react to you depending partially on how you look.
- Most NPCs run on one of three different AI systems.


The World
- Takes place in the land of Albion, a huge island filled with numerous ravines, forests, mountains, hills, coasts, streams, lakes, ruins, dungeons, towns, and cities.
- The world of Albion has a day/night system, with the villagers behaviours reacting appropriately to the time of the day.
- Weather effects include wind, rain, snow, fog, etc.
- There is a simulated moving sun, and moon to match what hour of the day it is.
- The world of Albion has different races of people.
- There are snowy areas in Albion.
- There are at least 8 major towns/cities/settlements in Albion.
- Many different styles of towns including, farm based towns, medival towns, forts, native american, etc.
- There are over 200 'significant' NPCs to interact with.
- Albion is said to be approx. 4-8 Square Km.
- There is a battle stadium in Albion where you can fight for money.
- The guild in Albion is where you can accept missions for awards.
- You can be kicked out of parts of Albion for periods of time if you break the law.
- Your character is able to walk off of most paths in Albion.
- There are many secrets in the world of Albion.
- The world of Albion has an economic system. There is a supply and demand system that changes.
- 1 day in Albion equals 48 minutes in realtime.

Graphics and Sound
- When your character is hit he flashes red.
- Metal substances like sword and axe blades shine when light hits them.
- Your clothing, hair, etc. moves realisticlly as you run
- Nearly all plot cutscenes are done in 2D art.
- Runs at 30 frames per second.
- Play is from a third-person perspective.
- Shadows realisticlly mimic your body
- There are blood stains on things like clothing, armor, weapons, and trees.
- There are different types of clouds.
- Clouds move realisticlly across the sky.
- Taverns have their own music.
- All dialog is voiced with british actors.

Misc
- There are non-aggressive creatures such as butterflies, birds, etc.
- Once you beat the main quest you can continue playing.
- There are any mini-games such as gambling and fishing.
- Your character has a journel to record effents, quests, etc.
- If you commit a crime and someone sees you they may chose to alert the guards.
- You can break into houses to steal things, pickpocket people, etc.
- Over 22,000 lines of dialog (approx. 160,000 words of dialog)
- Your character has a journel to record events, quests, etc.
- There are various forms of transportation such as teleportation.
- Rated M for Mature (Blood, Strong Language, Violence, Sexual Content).
- Your character's most memorable moments will be painted on huge murals that can be viewed in the guild.
- Takes an estimated 20-30 hours to complete main quests.
- Takes an estimated 100+ hours to complete the entire game.
- The game lets you save before and after missions and at other points in the game. There are also autosaves.
- The story starts out just after your village was attacked. Your father was murdered and your mother and sister kidnapped.
- There are many destructable environments.
- 4 years in the making.
- There are dozens of trophies to impress people with, such as a giant wasp head, and fish tophies.
- There is sex in the game that you can watch to some degree.
- Most controlls are customizible.
- There is no swimming but you can wade through water.
- Free bonus disc if preordered from Gamestop or EB Games. Disc includes behind the scenes, interviews, playable demo of Sudeki and other Xbox titles.
- Fable game disc also includes other Xbox game demos.
- Releases Septemer 14th in the United States, and October 8th in Europe


So no sex and you won't buy it, but all that positive *****?! I wonder what thrasher would say...

[Brutus]

I just got Sudeki. First RPG I've played in about 4 years. I'm digging it. It's getting me fired up about seeing Project Ego. I knew when they started it, what with everything they said they'd be pouring into it, it was too big of a feet... But after seeing how cool it's going to be, I can easily say it's the most advanced "Free-Roaming" game I've seen. & that says a lot. Especially with Morrowind out there.
Consider Fable already in my house, because that's one that no-one can afford to miss. If they do, they'll miss out on the best RPG of this generation of Vid-Games.

[LTM360]

I would like half the people who posted in this thread to re-read what blackies even posting about. Half of you are *****/talking about gay marriages... why? That has nothing to do with what blackie is saying. His point was
-You can have gay marriage
-You can't have kids
=that's f'ed up.
And I agree.

I personally liked the fact you could have kids, though I am dissapointed it's been cut, I'm not gonna keep from buying it.

[blackiee2002]

I would like half the people who posted in this thread to re-read what blackies even posting about. Half of you are *****/talking about gay marriages... why? That has nothing to do with what blackie is saying. His point was
-You can have gay marriage
-You can't have kids
=that's f'ed up.
And I agree.

I personally liked the fact you could have kids, though I am dissapointed it's been cut, I'm not gonna keep from buying it.

yep LMT is telling the truth. why are so many of you talking about gay stuff, that was not the point the point was as LMT was kind enough to summarize it
-You can have gay marriage
-You can't have kids
=that's f'ed up.
And I agree.

I am really sad about it, but i will still get the game. i mean i already preodrered it and plus you can virtually enter every house there. no game can claim that feat.

[LTM360]

I am really sad about it, but i will still get the game. i mean i already preodrered it and plus you can virtually enter every house there. no game can claim that feat.

(Thought I didn't like the game) Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind :D

[Hzaarour]

most people dont play games to have kids

[CRAYMAN]

most people dont play games to have kids

Or to have gay sex for that matter.

[LTM360]

most people dont play games to have kids


Or to kick a chicken
or to play soccer with severed head
or to tease little kids
or to flip off people
or to hump the air implying "let's go have sex"
or to make a frying pan the greatest weapon in all the land
or to develop a tan
or to buy homes
or to be a homosexual

It's a feature, that should be in the game when just as pointless features, such as I posted above, we're included.

[studepaber]

Or to kick a chicken
or to play soccer with severed head
or to tease little kids
or to flip off people
or to hump the air implying "let's go have sex"
or to make a frying pan the greatest weapon in all the land
or to develop a tan
or to buy homes
or to be a homosexual

It's a feature, that should be in the game when just as pointless features, such as I posted above, we're included.

Well Peter M. must've had his reasons for taking it out, he's the king of innovation so if he thought it would've worked I'm sure he'd have kept it (there's always hope of it in Fable 2 though!)

HEh, I can't wait to use the bolded gesture above on innocent bystanders, followed by the ol' flippin of the bird :eek: ...

[Snowblind]

Or to kick a chicken
or to play soccer with severed head
or to tease little kids
or to flip off people
or to hump the air implying "let's go have sex"
or to make a frying pan the greatest weapon in all the land



Speak for yourself. :p :hump:

[TheCovenant]

uh...what was so great about having kids in the game? what would that have done? I dont see how the game is WORSE with this feature taken.

Having another complex npc would have taxed the xbox for no reason.

It like what they said about trees growing.

When you start the game, the tree's would all be acorns and such, and by the end of the game, they would be full blown trees.

But wtf is the point? Sure, it a little feature you can say to your friend with a gamecube...


"look what happens to the trees in this game, can your system do that?"

but hell, about 15 percent of the cpu would be used on making trees grow, which adds absolutely nothing to the game, and actually takes away from other features which you interact with all the time.

Having anotheer AI running around, getting in the way...jhonestly wtf is the point? you supposed to go out and save the world from soemthing, not settle down and have a fmaily.

Spartan was right, maybe you have the wrong concept of this game. I reccoment you play the sims for the fmaily values, and play fable as an RPG.

the sims are a much better "life simulation" than fable, which form the beggining was suppsed to be a rpg, with hardcore rpg elements


and i know my grammar/spelling is terrible, but my new keyboard hasnt comein yet...

[SoundX]

Maybe Fable charecters have a low sperm count? :whistle:

It is pretty annoying really, four years in the making and even towards release they can still afford to cut features. What's it being delayed for? Surely that could have included this.

My expectations of Fable have actualy lowered a bit now, but I'm sure it'll still be a great game.

[MajorTom]

wtf would you think fable would smash Halo 2's record.

[LTM360]

wtf would you think fable would smash Halo 2's record.


Halo 2 doesn't have any records, that what I don't get.

Besides the point, what makes you think Halo 2 will be better than Fable?

[BlindSniper]

Well, I think that'd be kinda cool to have kids.......then you could go and knock up like 20 woman, and when they all come running toward you for child support you kill them and let the child run free as a rebel child......hehehe. Unless of coarse the child is a baby, then he would be taken in by wolves or something....THEN THERE'D BE THE WOLF BOY!

[TOTTEN]

Maybe Fable charecters have a low sperm count? :whistle:

Or just your character.
Who ever wont buy this game because of gay marrage is retarded, just think, if a gay guy in the game makes a move on you you can kill him and all of the witnesses. Its another feature in the game to mess with. The more features the better.

[Snowblind]

if a gay guy in the game makes a move on you you can kill him and all of the witnesses.



If only we could do that in real life.

[Brutus]

what makes you think Halo 2 will be better than Fable?

That's a lot of peoples favorite games now is shooters. I don't think you can compare these two though because they're opposite sides of the spectrum. I'm positive they'll both kick butt though.
As far as "sales" better: There are more Pre-Orders for Halo 2 then any other game in history. Even more than GTA Vice City. That doesn't include the one's they'll all sell without that... My local Game Crazy's & Gamestops all average about 60 - 75 preorders per store. But that's in a big city. Still more than they've ever experienced!

[Casper]

look who is talking. you need to STFU NOOOB
build a reputation here before you speak out of your a$$
If you're so upset about a small feature that didn't work in the first place, I'd watch how you treat members on this site before I make sure you can't access it either. Welcome new members to the site - don't push them away, or I'll do the same to you.

[CRAYMAN]

Well, mahz did insult him by saying "My friend's aborted fetus has better logic than you do. =( Either you think you're funny or you need to stop threadmaking."

But yeah, that's a very small feature. I think losing the LIVE capabilities was a greater issue than having kids. I mean c'mon.
I'll wait and see the finished product before passing ANY judgement.

[Shadow20002]

Anyway, it's coming less than a month.

[Nameless]

look who is talking. you need to STFU NOOOB
build a reputation here before you speak out of your a$$
Wow... that was sad.

Anyway, I don't care about not being able to have a kid. I don't really care about not having a shield either. I would have like to have horses in the game, but I have made my peace with that, same with the child murdering. The postitves and what we are getting, far outweigh what we aren't.

What Live capabilities are being talked about? I never heard anything of this game being on Live. The multiplayer was, in my opinion, a weak idea...but it wasn't on Live.

[Conchord]

look who is talking. you need to STFU NOOOB
build a reputation here before you speak out of your a$$

Cmon now kiddos, play nice...

[OC Noob]

i believe we should be the judge of that not them.


Dude, don't get so broken up over it. If you had kids they would just be regular NPCs that really have no function. I'm sure BBB wanted them to be more, but it would require to much processing power on something that has no real benifit to the game.

Its like the feature of having trees grow and age with your character. It would take way too much (20%) processing power and just isn't worth it.

I'd like to see Fable 2 on Xbox Next so they can add all the feature the Xbox doesn't have enough power for, but I'm not going to sweat the lose of a few minor features.


Relax, not having useless NPC children isn't a game-breaker.


ps with all the hype of Halo 2 and its popularity Fable would never slow its sales anyway. People are going to buy both or neither.

[Nameless]

ps with all the hype of Halo 2 and its popularity Fable would never slow its sales anyway. People are going to buy both or neither.
I'm only buying one...I'll give you a hint; it isn't Halo 2.

[blackiee2002]

If you're so upset about a small feature that didn't work in the first place, I'd watch how you treat members on this site before I make sure you can't access it either. Welcome new members to the site - don't push them away, or I'll do the same to you.

lolz do not make me laugh. its ok for a new guy to come and insult me, but is not alright for me to put him in check right. as they say the devil you know is better than the angel you dont know.

if you noticed my past threads, this is very uncharacteristic. you should figure out why i said what i said before making threats you can't enforce anyway.

any by the way having kids is not a small feature!!!

[Nameless]

any by the way having kids is not a small feature!!!
Yes it is. It doesn't really add anything to the game. Why do you so desperately want to have kids in a videogame?

[junkhead]

any by the way having kids is not a small feature!!!


Did you have some sort of accident that is going to prevent you from having kids of your own in real life? If so, then I completely understand your need to have kids in Fable. I would've been a bigger fan of the game of I could marry Natalie Portman and STILL be man enough to go out and mary three other women. When I heard Natalie Portman was not going to be in the game, I killed my preorder. Since you can't have kids and I can't marry Natalie Portman, I guess we'll just have to wait and see if they're both included in Fable 2. Either that or you could adopt..... :p

[Casper]

lolz do not make me laugh. its ok for a new guy to come and insult me, but is not alright for me to put him in check right. as they say the devil you know is better than the angel you dont know.

if you noticed my past threads, this is very uncharacteristic. you should figure out why i said what i said before making threats you can't enforce anyway.

any by the way having kids is not a small feature!!!

And I can't enforce this how? Since you've been here so long, has your genius mind informed the rest of yourself in your world that I'm the forum administrator? If not, then now you know, and I can enforce whatever threat I impose - trust me, I've done it before.

I know how you're past posts are, I've seen them, and this right here:

Originally Posted by blackiee2002
look who is talking. you need to STFU NOOOB
build a reputation here before you speak out of your a$$

Is not only retarded, uneducated, and just plain stupid - but you should really look into where you are when you go onto a site and still tell someone "STFU NOOB" - do you say that to someone in real life? I was just pointing out the obvious man, nothing out of context.

Btw, kids IS a small feature. The only feature I'm disappointed about is that there's no XBL - I would have liked to have more of an MMORPG, being that they were working on this game for so damn long, you figured they would have given that to us, but nope. I'll be playing this game to kick chickens, that's it :)

[blackiee2002]

and once what the new guy said was well educated right? you are obviously biased. you are mod how can you treat yopur existing uses like this

[Casper]

and once what the new guy said was well educated right? you are obviously biased. you are mod how can you treat yopur existing uses like this

So what if he was new? Does that make him any lower in the food chain than you? No, it doesn't.

It's an internet forum - relax, don't take everything so personal, and for our sake, learn some better comebacks then STFU NOOB - don't try and chase people away from the site that us as staff work so hard to maintain and try to support a great community. I've been doing this for 2 years now and that's why I have the position I do - because I've been fair. If I was as bias as you say, I could have just banned you for questioning me being on staff - I didn't ban either of you, I just told you to not try and tell someone to leave the site.

Get over it.

[CRAYMAN]

and once what the new guy said was well educated right? you are obviously biased. you are mod how can you treat yopur existing uses like this

You're making this more of an issue than it is. Obviously it's important for us to welcome new members. That's why Casper came down harder on you. Even though Mahz provoked you, you could have been more diplomatic in your response.

Live and learn.