View Full Version : Team Slayer rank placement
As all of you should know, after every game of team slayer, you get placed (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) according to which team won the game. I just wanted to bring up the point that this system of ranking isn't cool at all. I hate it when i get 20+ kills a game but still get 5th place just cause one guy only got 2 kills on my team which lead to my team losing. This pisses me off so bad. I know it's called TEAM slayer, but it is still team SLAYER. IMO, it should be a measure of how well you can kill the other team. In Halo, the Post-Game carnage report was done by kills redardless of team. What changed? I think you should get placed according to how many kills you get, not which team won then how many kills you got.
The team aspect should only be there to decide when the game ends. I believe that team slayer should be a way of playing rumble pit with your friends. Cause thats the only reason I play with my friends. But at the sametime I want to get ranked for my hard work.
Give me some feedback on my idea of getting placed by how many kills you get. I'm am seriously contempating on contacting Bungie on this, because I hate it when 9 times out of 10, I get the most kills out of everyone on the map and I still lose. It is also cheap that if I actually DO pull the win out of my @$$, the guy on my team that only got 5 kills gets higher placed than the guy that got 15 on the other team.
Don't get me wrong, I know there is this whole team aspect part of this gametype but in the end, you can only do so much to cover your @$$ while covering everyone else's at the same time. It's just not fair if you are owning their whole team and there's this slacker who thinks they can just get 2 kills and magically get placed 4th.
BuLLsEyEWTF
02-11-2005, 01:30 AM
who cares...unless you like to talk trash and b like ...IT WAS CUZ MY TEAM SUCKED ... then i dont think it should bother you...maybe get sum better company IMO. i nearly always get the most kills on my team which is why i am always looking for people that can match or get close to my body count :P
Reclaimer
02-11-2005, 02:43 AM
You know, I've always wanted to ask the question about why do some people place higher with less kills, even if they didn't make a point in Big Team Battle.
I started to notice that.. I might have a bunch of kills, but the guy ahead of had fewer, or it'll be the other way around.
Sam-XBA
02-11-2005, 02:56 AM
it could be to do with getting more assists? maybe less deaths?? but im happy with the way team games work out... it is meant to be a team game so they force you to have to use your fellow team-mates... i do hate it though when im matched with people without mics... but if you dont like being matched with less skilled players then make a party and go into team slayer.... and if you dont liked ranked games just play training :)
Regosnot
02-11-2005, 07:33 AM
I know it sucks but you win as a team and you lose as a team.
it could be to do with getting more assists? maybe less deaths?? but im happy with the way team games work out... it is meant to be a team game so they force you to have to use your fellow team-mates... i do hate it though when im matched with people without mics... but if you dont like being matched with less skilled players then make a party and go into team slayer.... and if you dont liked ranked games just play training :)
I do have a 4 man party, though. And the ppl I play with, I know they are good. But it is always one guy (different each time) that just gets owned by the other team. another problem is that i love ranked games. But the inconsistencies of my friends pulls me down sometimes. I want to play with my friends cause its fun, and sometimes I dont care if we win or lose but everytime that postgame carnage report comes up and I have 20+ kills and we still lost... it just upsets me. I dont think its fair.
ramprider0
02-11-2005, 01:17 PM
I don't play Team Slayer anymore cause I get matched with people that suck ass and I can't keep at level 12 I keep deleveling and then leveling back up! So now I just play Team Skirmish and Big team battle because weapons whoring happens less in those game types and I can actually do something.
Simple solution:
Get some good friends.
Form a party.
THEN play Team Slayer.
If you go solo, you're asking for newbies.
If you don't like getting 20 kills when your teammate gets 2, play Rumble Pit because apparently you don't like teammate interdependency. ;)
Simple solution:
Get some good friends.
Form a party.
THEN play Team Slayer.
If you go solo, you're asking for newbies.
If you don't like getting 20 kills when your teammate gets 2, play Rumble Pit because apparently you don't like teammate interdependency. ;)
ok, I DO have good friends that i form parties with (again, the problem is inconsistency), I DONT go solo, and I like team slayer b/c the mission is still to kill but you only have to worry about 4 ppl, instead of 7.
I didn't want to seem like this situation happens all the time. Its just that when it does happen, it sucks balls, massive, hairy, balls.
Sam-XBA
02-13-2005, 03:40 AM
I don't play Team Slayer anymore cause I get matched with people that suck ass and I can't keep at level 12 I keep deleveling and then leveling back up! So now I just play Team Skirmish and Big team battle because weapons whoring happens less in those game types and I can actually do something.
yeah, same thing happens wiith me,... you can add me if you want, im a prety good player...
Spanky85
02-13-2005, 10:29 PM
I mentioned this in another post, but I didn't get any feedback. I totally agree that it is stupid. I think IMO that it should be treated like a head to head game, 1st and 2nd place. This is my scenario: My team is working together and we have possession of the good weapons and we break up into 2 squads. I'll encounter someone and almost take him down only to have my kill stollen by another person on my team. I wouldn't mind if it was the 1st and 2nd deal b/c I normally win when I'm with my friends (solo sucks). Also the original way makes sense, too.
MikeMan91389
02-14-2005, 04:50 PM
As all of you should know, after every game of team slayer, you get placed (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) according to which team won the game. I just wanted to bring up the point that this system of ranking isn't cool at all. I hate it when i get 20+ kills a game but still get 5th place just cause one guy only got 2 kills on my team which lead to my team losing. This pisses me off so bad. I know it's called TEAM slayer, but it is still team SLAYER. IMO, it should be a measure of how well you can kill the other team. In Halo, the Post-Game carnage report was done by kills redardless of team. What changed? I think you should get placed according to how many kills you get, not which team won then how many kills you got.
no,your w-r-o-n-g.
It is cool, because its right. Since halo2 is so unbalanced, yes, unbalanced. The sniper of each team will usually have the majority of the kills, so every1 would want to be the sniper, and not give the best sniper the rifle. Maybe, instead of racking up your own kills with the sniper, give your noob friend who is getting owned some backup, hit the guy in the waist with the shot when he's shooting your friend, so your friend can kill him with his dual smg noob combo, or whatever he is holding.. if he's almost dead, shoot the guy in the head, instead of shooting the guy a mile away, who is holding a single smg.
second, it does rank in order of kills, but only on the online stats, not postgame screem, cept in ffa's. I don't know why the noob programmers of bungie left out this detail this time around (just kidding guys, i know they are good programmers), but i loved the old way, and i liked how in ctf games, you could see who had more kills on ur team, and other ways it did it, etc.
The team aspect should only be there to decide when the game ends. I believe that team slayer should be a way of playing rumble pit with your friends. Cause thats the only reason I play with my friends. But at the sametime I want to get ranked for my hard work.
team slayer, is where you work as a TEAM to win, who cares who has how many kills if you lose, you should work on your teamwork. You shouldn't go into a team slayer game to show your friends that you can get 20 kills, and that they are noobs.
Give me some feedback on my idea of getting placed by how many kills you get. I'm am seriously contempating on contacting Bungie on this, because I hate it when 9 times out of 10, I get the most kills out of everyone on the map and I still lose. It is also cheap that if I actually DO pull the win out of my @$$, the guy on my team that only got 5 kills gets higher placed than the guy that got 15 on the other team.
wrong. the guy on the other team should have been a better teammate so that his team could win. who cares if he went 15-0 and didnt help out his team and get a few more deaths, but get 10 assists and let his noob friends make the difference in the game. There is no I in team.
Don't get me wrong, I know there is this whole team aspect part of this gametype but in the end, you can only do so much to cover your @$$ while covering everyone else's at the same time. It's just not fair if you are owning their whole team and there's this slacker who thinks they can just get 2 kills and magically get placed 4th.
you are only owning their team as much as your worst guy is owning their team. if the ogres, saiyan, and walshy only covered their own ass, and didn't help eachother on EVERY or almost EVERY kill, they wouldn't be the number 1 players in halo2. They are always in a posistion to help the other out.
Mikeman, I don't think I totally understand what you are saying. I'm not trying to be a jerk but can you re-iterate a bit about why you disagree with me? Thanks, pal. :)
If anyone is looking for a Team Slayer teammate add me, I always got at least 3 good friends to play with. I went from like a 12-15 just over the last couple of days. Now I'm back down to 14 (96% of the way in.)
Dude, yes! Let me play with you, bro. Look for a friend request from vman x very, very soon.
MikeMan91389
02-16-2005, 08:22 PM
heres the easiest and most obvious reason :
in H2 sniper will have the most kills if he is decent. in that event, everyone would want the snipe, and then the team wouldnt be a team, itd be like a FFA with a cummulative score - you can think of problems
John4767
02-21-2005, 02:14 PM
alot of you may disagree, but i like the ranking system on Team Slayer, its HOME MANY kills each team can get...
ramprider0
02-21-2005, 02:53 PM
I was a level 14 yesterday but I played with some little kids that were talking alotta crap and couldn't back it up so they pretty much screwed me out of my 14 and I'm about to go back to 12 from my 13, Also we got Colossus alot and everyone whored the sniper and we couldn't even get close to them with their teamates distracting us and then we'd all get sniped and Plasma riffled to death. Its getting so that team slayer is much more luck than skill, its like whoever spawns closest to the sniper or rockets wins the game usually.
I was a level 14 yesterday but I played with some little kids that were talking alotta crap and couldn't back it up so they pretty much screwed me out of my 14 and I'm about to go back to 12 from my 13, Also we got Colossus alot and everyone whored the sniper and we couldn't even get close to them with their teamates distracting us and then we'd all get sniped and Plasma riffled to death. Its getting so that team slayer is much more luck than skill, its like whoever spawns closest to the sniper or rockets wins the game usually.
man, that sux. It is all pretty much chance, cause most everybody is good with the snipes nowadays. halo2 really took a lot out of the skill that was brought with halo. What happend was that the bungie developers wanted to steer away from maps that were too symmetrical. And all that is good but it will always give a team an edge which is not fair, especially when we are talking about team slayer. I also think that they should have coordinated begining spawn points more accurately and give each team a fair and fighting chance to win. Maps like Zanzibar are great, but its just not a good map for team slayer. it is an objective map. That is why i really like maps like coagulation, beaver creek, midship. They are really even when it comes down to where weapons are.
That is why I can't wait for Hang em High. It wasnt really symmetrical yet, it was really fair for both sides. Very rarely did i see ppl go straight for one weapon. ( of course everyone already started out with what they wanted.) But still. I think halo2 needs to have more symmetrical maps that dont give a certain team the edge before the game even starts. I would love to see the whole team spawn at the same point and at the corresponding color base.
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