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Spartan CXVII
02-27-2005, 01:42 AM
...that the Laptop gun was so damn cool that Halo 2 would have benefited from a similar type weapon. I mean, I don't think it should be a laptop, but it should just be a portable sentry gun that you can carry to a location and set-up. It should be pretty weak and not amazingly accurate. It would be simply to cover an area or provide suppression fire.

I think it would introduce great tactics to the game. It would allow for a multitude of unique strategies. Just imagine, your buddy steals the flag and you are trying to escort him back across Coagulation to your base. You are outnumbered greatly so you bust out your sentry gun and set it up on the route you are taking to get back to you base. Perhaps you could set it up right next to their teleporter so as they come pouring through they get sprayed at by the sentry gun. You could also use it for defence of your base (CTF, Assault).

As I mentioned above, it should have several handicaps to balance out its awesome mobile sentry ability:

Handicaps
1) Weak (perhaps like the SMG or a tiny bit weaker)
2) Inaccurate
3) Limited rounds in its magazine (Say 180 rounds at the SMG's rate of fire)
4) Can be shot at and destroyed fairly easily
5) Max of two per map
6) Would show up on radar and/or HUD

Abilities
1) Mobile (Can be picked up and moved around as you wish)
2) Can be mounted just about anywhere on the maps geometry (perhaps even on vehicles! Lol.)
3) Can be reloaded (can be picked up again once depleted)
4) Medium range sentry gun

What do you fellas think?

I'm going to post this thread at other forums as well to see what the results are across the different Halo 2 communities. I'll link the threads here as I post them.

Bungie.net Results (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=2352553&viewreplies=true)
TXB Results (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?p=4887002#post4887002)
Xbox365 Results (No poll available) (http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb-data/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/63/t/000421)
HBO Results (No poll available) (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=565717)

ramprider0
02-27-2005, 02:02 AM
They also should have had some grenades that could be remotely detonated like the remote mines in Goldeneye 64, but you could only use one at a time because it would be retarded to rig the whole level like you could in Goldeneye 64 lol.

Snowblind
02-27-2005, 02:03 AM
Ohhhhh, I remember the Laptop gun. Thing was ****ing awsome.


I don't think it'd fit in Halo 2, plus all those handicaps that you said make it seem so weak that there wouldn't really be a point to having it.

LTM360
02-27-2005, 08:31 AM
I honestly think Perfect Dark was extremely overrated. BECAUSE... it was to far ahead of it's time for it's own good. IF they were to remake it now, I think it would benefit greatly. It's one of the few games I think should be remade.

On Topic: I didn't like the idea of the Laptop gun, and besides, it wouldn't fit into the world of Halo at all.

CMX Jedi
02-27-2005, 09:14 AM
They also should have had some grenades that could be remotely detonated like the remote mines in Goldeneye 64, but you could only use one at a time because it would be retarded to rig the whole level like you could in Goldeneye 64 lol.
:rofl: i remember that. i would rig up the whole basement and hide under the stairs.

Whisper
02-27-2005, 10:48 AM
lol i remember having fun with mines in Goldeneye... my friend would leave the room for 5 minutes.. I would run around planting proximity mines.. my friend would come back and have to get from one end of the level to the other

ghost 009
02-27-2005, 12:07 PM
I honestly think Perfect Dark was extremely overrated. BECAUSE... it was to far ahead of it's time for it's own good. IF they were to remake it now, I think it would benefit greatly. It's one of the few games I think should be remade.

On Topic: I didn't like the idea of the Laptop gun, and besides, it wouldn't fit into the world of Halo at all.
so what are you trying to say? you thought it was overrated but you think it should be remade. it had some science fiction in it. so?

LTM360
02-27-2005, 12:12 PM
so what are you trying to say? you thought it was overrated but you think it should be remade. it had some science fiction in it. so?


No, im saying the game ran awful. Slowdown, after framerate drop, and slowdown. Some guns were to hard to use (that gun that sees through walls) because the framerate would get annhilated. The game was too hard to play with the drop in framerate. I'm just saying if they remade it for better technology (i.e. current systems), the game would be much better.

(this is all multiplayer. :p I didn't pay much attention to the single-player story).

ghost 009
02-27-2005, 12:34 PM
No, im saying the game ran awful. Slowdown, after framerate drop, and slowdown. Some guns were to hard to use (that gun that sees through walls) because the framerate would get annhilated. The game was too hard to play with the drop in framerate. I'm just saying if they remade it for better technology (i.e. current systems), the game would be much better.

(this is all multiplayer. :p I didn't pay much attention to the single-player story).
oh. I didn't see any problems with the framate. it was on n64 so the graphics weren't that good. but ya I played that game all the time on single player and multiplayer. that is the ****ing best game ever. if you haven't played that game with your friends on single player and multiplayer you don't know what your missing. oh man. I think I'm gonna pull out my n64 again. hint-team maians enemy-dark sims lock you and the rest of the team up in a area 52 room and just wait for them and order your entire team to hold in the room

Xer0Mercy
02-27-2005, 01:56 PM
Wait, so if you made the gun weaker than the SMG, wouldn't that make dual-SMG's way better than this stationary gun?

Variation-XBA
02-27-2005, 02:28 PM
I loved it in PD, but it wouldn't fit in Halo IMO. Would rather see proxy's but only 1 at a time. Or sticky with a timer :)

Spanky85
02-27-2005, 10:03 PM
How about just a mobile turret. That would be cool, kinda. Like in single player when the grunts bring out a turret and then set it up. It would be a very tactical gun. Its downside would be you have to have the element of surprise. If you were in a firefight and tried to set it up you would easily be beaten down. It would be interesting and gay just like the sword and it would fit in with Halo 2's universe.

Olaf the Proud
02-28-2005, 05:02 PM
The N-Bumb is fun.

m4oH
02-28-2005, 05:08 PM
It would be interesting and gay just like the sword and it would fit in with Halo 2's universe
Agreed, except once you get used to Halo 2, it is easy to defend against the sword. I think it would be cool to have a stationary gun, except it most likely would be abused on defense.

TOTTEN
02-28-2005, 07:04 PM
It would be interesting and gay just like the sword and it would fit in with Halo 2's universe.
How does the sword not fit in its a elite weapon. used by elites at high ranks or from experience from the halo 2 campain a weapon of last resort.

super_ryu
02-28-2005, 07:32 PM
This weapon would sure spice up Big Team Battles.

Conchord
02-28-2005, 07:45 PM
I don't think it'd fit in Halo 2, plus all those handicaps that you said make it seem so weak that there wouldn't really be a point to having it.

Exactly. Give it unlimited ammo and make it as strong as a regular turret...

Soundscape
02-28-2005, 07:59 PM
nah..

Reclaimer
02-28-2005, 09:21 PM
Then we can add smoke grenades, flashbangs, tactical nuclear bombs, night vision, laser death satellites and each team has access to the Death Star.

Whisper
02-28-2005, 09:31 PM
riot sheilds.. we need the riot shields..

Conchord
02-28-2005, 11:00 PM
Then we can add smoke grenades, flashbangs, tactical nuclear bombs, night vision, laser death satellites and each team has access to the Death Star.

Reclaimer, you tickle my funny bone. you also tickle me in another place, but I promised I woudn't tell, so nvm.

Snowblind
02-28-2005, 11:46 PM
Off-topic: You know what was cool? Those little riot-shields in Project: Snowblind that you can throw. Those are some nice ****s. :D

Spanky85
03-01-2005, 01:16 PM
riot sheilds would be cool. Yeh the turret would act just like a normal turret and would take the same amount of time to set up and pick up as it takes to get in and out of a warthogs turret or stationary turrets. If they allow the sword with infinite ammo, then a mobile turret is equal. Plus people do abuse weapons. Its gonna happen no matter what.

Olaf the Proud
03-02-2005, 05:21 PM
While we are on the subject of Perfect Dark. What ever happened to the new dark game ? When microsoft bought rare from the cube I thought this would be at the top of the list. They are probably to busy with conker live.

LoRd StOnEpAw
03-02-2005, 05:40 PM
I'm pretty sure that Perfect Zero (or whatever the sequel is called) is going to be 1 of the opening games for Xbox Next. Or did this change?

Olaf the Proud
03-02-2005, 06:06 PM
I got to wait till chritmas 2006 huh.

msdark
03-02-2005, 07:28 PM
i know this has nothing to do with the sentinery run issue, but i need to get something off my chest, the hostile takeover of the games development company 'Rare'. Ever since microsoft has taken them over the quality of games comming out on the 'RARE' name has been very low, and now classic games that rare put out back in the days 'GOLDEN-EYE' are being high-jacked by corparate big wigs E.A (electronic arts), and what did we get in return 'golden-eye rogue agent'. the worst first person shooter i have ever played. the graphics are so appalling they make N64 graphics look ground-braking today, people we have to take a stand against these big companies that are constantly flooding us with crap, unoriginal games that arnt even challenging e.g Driver 3, matrix online, spiderman.

And another complaint I have is games based on movies, when will someone develop a game that's based on a movie where the story-line is completely different from the movie, that way the the suspense of playing the game is not lost in the game.

People, my fellow gamers be it :PC gamers, xbox gamers, game cube, ps2 lets us take a stand against the 'MAN' and suck it to him 'WE WANT GAMES THAT R ORIGINAL & CHALLENGING 2 DA MIND'

signing off 4 now & 'MAD AS HELL & AINT GONNA TAKE DIS S**T ANYMORE'