360 power consumption

[Rogerdon]

What is the power consumption of the new 360? I haven't seen it listed on any specs.

Thanks,

Roger

[Double_Diablo]

To be honest, no one has. Only Microsoft employee's would know.

[Bakeman]

wait, are you actually wondering how much power the system is going to use?
Like the kWh ???

If this is what you are asking.... this will be the first time I've EVER seen this question. I'm just shocked lol

Anyways to try and answer you question.... No one knows, except for the MS employee's like Double_Diablo said. I don't believe I have ever heard how much power any of the systems used.

[swivel]

My guess would be around 200W. Could be 50W to either side of that. Depends on if you have the HD spinning and the DVD accessing.

[Hangnail]

Who really cares? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but what does it matter?

[laughs]

This is how I will power mine

http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/images/c/computerhamster.jpg

[swivel]

Who really cares? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but what does it matter?

Why do you care why someone else cares? I lived on a 27 foot sailboat for 5 years, and wattage mattered a lot to me. Everything ran from an inverter that was powered by four 12 volt batteries which were trickle-charged by a wind turbine. I had to shut my computer down before I played any console games.

So before you run around pointing fingers and acting like an 8-year-old bully, keep in mind that the narrow little slice of the universe that is your single existence, bears very little resemblance with that of others.

A more reasonable reply would be "Interesting question, why does it concern you?"

Thanks a ton for saying that you aren't trying to be mean. Next time, try harder. Because what you are saying and how you are saying it do not jibe. Pardon the extended metaphor.

[laughs]

Why do you care why someone else cares? I lived on a 27 foot sailboat for 5 years, and wattage mattered a lot to me. Everything ran from an inverter that was powered by four 12 volt batteries which were trickle-charged by a wind turbine. I had to shut my computer down before I played any console games.

So before you run around pointing fingers and acting like an 8-year-old bully, keep in mind that the narrow little slice of the universe that is your single existence, bears very little resemblance with that of others.

A more reasonable reply would be "Interesting question, why does it concern you?"

Thanks a ton for saying that you aren't trying to be mean. Next time, try harder. Because what you are saying and how you are saying it do not jibe. Pardon the extended metaphor.

Is it that time of month, or are you just insane?

[Double_Diablo]

Is it that time of month, or are you just insane?
The simple answer is: pre-menstrual syndrome. :hump:

[Reclaimer]

Why do you care why someone else cares? I lived on a 27 foot sailboat for 5 years, and wattage mattered a lot to me. Everything ran from an inverter that was powered by four 12 volt batteries which were trickle-charged by a wind turbine. I had to shut my computer down before I played any console games.

So before you run around pointing fingers and acting like an 8-year-old bully, keep in mind that the narrow little slice of the universe that is your single existence, bears very little resemblance with that of others.

A more reasonable reply would be "Interesting question, why does it concern you?"

Thanks a ton for saying that you aren't trying to be mean. Next time, try harder. Because what you are saying and how you are saying it do not jibe. Pardon the extended metaphor.

Nothing like an intellectual beat down. I haven't seen that done around here in a long time.
Bravo!

[swivel]

Goodness, which was it? Post[edited: thanks for the lesson]-menstral insanity or intellectual beatdown? Not sure I was shooting for either, just trying to shoo off a troll.


Semi-on-topic:
Anyone know if the power supply is going to be built into the unit, or is it going to be an enormous brick, a'la Gamecube?

[Ford Mustang]

The simple answer is: pre-menstrual syndrome. :hump:

The P in PMS stands for Post, buddy.
Biology lesson for the day.

I understand why you might be puzzled at the question but that doesn't mean it doesn't have validity in regards to someone else.


Good post, swivel.

[laughs]

Semi-on-topic:
Anyone know if the power supply is going to be built into the unit, or is it going to be an enormous brick, a'la Gamecube?

Yes. In the left area of the system, there will be one of these
http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/images/c/computerhamster.jpg

So to answer your question..... it's built in. :cheers:

[swivel]

I'm surprised it's built in. I would think this generation of consoles would have severe heat issues, and try to move the transformers outside. Not to mention the seemingly obvious attempt to make the XBox2 more sleek, so moving it out to save space.

On the one hand, I'm glad. When I first saw the Gamecube I was stunned at how small it was to be so powerful. I brought it home only to discover that I had really purchased TWO cubes! Contrariwise, it's nice when a powersupply goes kaput and you can just go buy another one.

[Rogerdon]

I design and import video game plates and inverter systems for the mobile environment. We now have a system with a 150 Watt inverter that suits the 100 Watt Xbox well.
Just trying to stay ahead of the competition, if a change needs to be made I have to start importing the larger inverters now to have them by Nov.

I was hoping that an MS employee would peruse this post.

Nice post Swivel.

[Duke]

I plan on adopting 12 displaced children from New Orleans and having them ride bikes hooked up to an elaborate kid powered generator. I'm off the grid yo.

[laughs]

I plan on adopting 12 displaced children from New Orleans and having them ride bikes hooked up to an elaborate kid powered generator. I'm off the grid yo.

You know you wouldn't need 12.... I'm currently running my xbox on just 3 :cheers:

P.S. See you in hell Duke

[swivel]

I design and import video game plates and inverter systems for the mobile environment. We now have a system with a 150 Watt inverter that suits the 100 Watt Xbox well.
Just trying to stay ahead of the competition, if a change needs to be made I have to start importing the larger inverters now to have them by Nov.

I was hoping that an MS employee would peruse this post.

Nice post Swivel.

Thanks Rogerdon. I feel even better knowing I was sticking up for a fellow engineer.

God forbid the Internet be used as a medium for asking questions and acquiring knowledge. I've never studied the history of the Internet before, but I assume it was created by a cooperative effort between two groups - SICKOS and PEEPS. Or Socially Inept Crybaby Kidos Ostracized and Stinky, the national foundation of trolls, fanboys, and pimply-faced virgin finger-pointers. And People Espousing Electronic Pedophilia Society, a group 100 million strong that collect porn by the terabytes and masturbate three times a day.

That would be my guess.

Yet, somehow there are the few, the minority, such as yourself that use the medium for communicating ideas, transacting business, and furthering the persuits of science and general knowledge. If there were more of you, and less SICKOS and PEEPS, I would instead guess that the Internet was invented by scientists, researchers, and university faculty.

[Duke]

Thanks Rogerdon. I feel even better knowing I was sticking up for a fellow engineer.

God forbid the Internet be used as a medium for asking questions and acquiring knowledge. I've never studied the history of the Internet before, but I assume it was created by a cooperative effort between two groups - SICKOS and PEEPS. Or Socially Inept Crybaby Kidos Ostracized and Stinky, the national foundation of trolls, fanboys, and pimply-faced virgin finger-pointers. And People Espousing Electronic Pedophilia Society, a group 100 million strong that collect porn by the terabytes and masturbate three times a day.

That would be my guess.

Yet, somehow there are the few, the minority, such as yourself that use the medium for communicating ideas, transacting business, and furthering the persuits of science and general knowledge. If there were more of you, and less SICKOS and PEEPS, I would instead guess that the Internet was invented by scientists, researchers, and university faculty.

i didn't read this because it was really long and i'm dumb and don't know big words. thanks in advance

[swivel]

That works out well since it was directed at someone else. Thanks for cluttering up the thread with a senseless large quote and sentence of nothingness. At least your post count went up one, so something came out of it.

[Duke]

i do what i can. but i was making **** posts so i thought i'd continue. also i don't really care about post count but eh.

i just don't see any reason to get upset about it. i actually found your post interesting, but eh.

[swivel]

I love you.

Are you Canadian?

[Duke]

the american equivalent, i live in santa cruz

[swivel]

Lucky you. I was picking up a Canadian 'eh' habit there. Wasn't sure if it was a conversational pause, or a term of disgust and discontent.

Semi-back-on-topic, did you guys know the XBox2 has a water-cooling system? I just found this out and was surprised. It is becoming common with high-end PC's, but still seems slightly risky for a console to have fluid pumping around in it.

Explains my earlier questions of size and heat and power supplies.

http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1143/Taking-a-Spin-with-the-Xbox-360/p1/

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/613/613338p1.html

[laughs]

Lucky you. I was picking up a Canadian 'eh' habit there. Wasn't sure if it was a conversational pause, or a term of disgust and discontent.

Semi-back-on-topic, did you guys know the XBox2 has a water-cooling system? I just found this out and was surprised. It is becoming common with high-end PC's, but still seems slightly risky for a console to have fluid pumping around in it.
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1. I have never heard a Canadian say "eh". I think it's just a weird belief.
2. That water is for the hamster, not the cooling system

http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/images/c/computerhamster.jpg

[swivel]

2. That water is for the hamster, not the cooling system

That should be illegal. I'm not sure if you know the funny limit in these parts, but that very easily exceeded it. Keep it cool, people live around here.


Perhaps you really are Canadian. Only other Canadians can't hear each other saying it. I do a lot of work up in the North Channel in Canada, and it is every other word. Sometimes I just bust out laughing in the middle of a conversation about the weather, and they just look at me, with that sad look on their faces, the one that kinda sighs: "American". But, like, it isn't any different, than, um, our speech pauses, I guess.

[Double_Diablo]

2. That water is for the hamster, not the cooling system

That should be illegal. I'm not sure if you know the funny limit in these parts, but that very easily exceeded it. Keep it cool, people live around here.


Perhaps you really are Canadian. Only other Canadians can't hear each other saying it. I do a lot of work up in the North Channel in Canada, and it is every other word. Sometimes I just bust out laughing in the middle of a conversation about the weather, and they just look at me, with that sad look on their faces, the one that kinda sighs: "American". But, like, it isn't any different, than, um, our speech pauses, I guess.
Maybe they knew you were American and were teasing. I never hear anyone say 'eh' around here.

[laughs]

2. That water is for the hamster, not the cooling system

That should be illegal. I'm not sure if you know the funny limit in these parts, but that very easily exceeded it. Keep it cool, people live around here.


:confused: WTF???



Perhaps you really are Canadian. Only other Canadians can't hear each other saying it. I do a lot of work up in the North Channel in Canada, and it is every other word. Sometimes I just bust out laughing in the middle of a conversation about the weather, and they just look at me, with that sad look on their faces, the one that kinda sighs: "American". But, like, it isn't any different, than, um, our speech pauses, I guess.

Oh, I'm sorry....I guess you would know more about how I talk than I do. Eh ba...eh

[swivel]

Sorry, man. Just my bad sense of humor. I'm not trying to offend or upset anyone here. Just trying to tell you how funny the water/hamster comment was.

[laughs]

Sorry, man. Just my bad sense of humor. I'm not trying to offend or upset anyone here. Just trying to tell you how funny the water/hamster comment was.

lol, only kidding about the "eh" thing ba. I hardly ever say that stuff ba....right on. Sorry by the way....I didn't get your hamster response. I'm going to go take another Midol :cheers:

[swivel]

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/xboxs-power-source-126137.php

Doesn't look good for you if this is the power requirements. I may have under-guessed.

[Shadow20002]

Hmm...in my opinion, around 300-400 watts cause of the three symetrical core CPU of 3.2 GHz.

[Flame Sword8]

What the hell are GHz. I just want to know if it will work if I plug it into my wall.

[OC Noob]

Power consuption will be important for playing games on the raod, my kids love to play games on road-trips and you need to know if a ac-dc converter will do the job.

As far as power consumption its anybodies guess because no matter the ghz of the chips, chip design is a much more important factor as is, intelligent usage of the chips. i.e. laptop chips that suck up low wattage and step down their speed based on usage.

IBM makes chips that are so low wattage wise that they don't require active cooling and run at over 1 ghz. We do know that these Power PC based chips are smaller toned down versions (less transistors, etc..) and will likely take a lot less wattage at those 3.2 ghz speeds than a Power PC chip running at that speed.

In addition, ATI has come up with a very amazing laptop video card in its x800 series that sucks up much less power (I think it was about a 3rd of the power) than its desktop equivlent at very little performance loss. So we could have a very power efficient video card or a real hog depending on how ATi design it.

I'd like to think the earlier guess of about 250-150 watts is pretty close, possibly more like 250-350 watts, but who knows.

I do know my ac-dc converters only do 200 watts so there probably won't be any 360 on roadtrips.

ps Flame Sword8, I'm pretty sure you need to plug it into the ceiling to get it to work because of Ghz, Mhz, Amps, Watts, Ohms and other stuff that you wouldn't understand.

[wackyanimation]

yet another thread that i compleatly read thugh without any comment. dose the hamster come with the core 360?

[OC Noob]

yet another thread that i compleatly read thugh without any comment. dose the hamster come with the core 360?

lol

Nope only the premium package. You want the fuzzball you gotta pay.

:whistle:

[wackyanimation]

good i got the premium

[Solipso]

I live in a hotel where residents share circuits. The power consumption is limited; so everyone cannot be using a 1500-watt electric heater simultaneously. I have an Xbox 360 (I've been playing Gears of War), and I wanted to know its power consumption.

I want to thank everyone who made open-minded and polite replies to this thread. :)

[killerscott]

I live in a hotel where residents share circuits. The power consumption is limited; so everyone cannot be using a 1500-watt electric heater simultaneously. I have an Xbox 360 (I've been playing Gears of War), and I wanted to know its power consumption.

I want to thank everyone who made open-minded and polite replies to this thread. :)


you suck a lot. Not only is the thread like 2 years old, but the system has been out for over a year and the consumption has been measured; I dont know it but it's out there.

[CrazyCougar]

And the consumption isnt a small number. The 360 is a power monging beast. LOL!

[laughs]

160 watts compared to 74 for the original xbox.