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Halo 3: First Details Emerge
New maps, new weapons, new SKUs, new control schemes.
by Luke Smith, 10/27/2006
In the just-redesigned December issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly (subscribers should have it any day now) a handful of editors took Halo 3's multiplayer game hands-on.
The result? A 17-page cover story and a three-week series of stories on 1UP called "3 Weeks of Halo 3."
Before all of that information ends up in your hands, though -- here's a small taste of what to expect from both EGM and 1UP over the next few weeks:
-What are these new Brutish weapons? What's a Spike Rifle...or a Spike Grenade?
-The Mongoose (the once-scrapped ATV from Halo/Halo 2) is back: Who wants to ride Brokeback?
-Halo 3 will have three retail SKUs: standard, collector's edition, and Legendary. Guess which one comes with a helmet and four discs of content?
-Adding bumpers to the 360 controller means there's some extra real estate for Bungie to play with. Now the left bumper reloads your dual-wielded weapon and the right bumper is the normal reload. What does X do, though? Mum.
-Starting weapon: Bungie thinks they have the "perfect" starting weapon in Halo 3. It's not the pistol, the battle rifle, or the SMG...and it's pretty familiar. How does the new Assault Rifle play?
-One of the new maps, Valhalla, is being called "the new Blood Gulch" -- but this isn't another coat of new paint on the Combat Evolved classic. This is, from-the-ground-up, a brand-new map. How is it?
-What if you could save your own movies from Halo 3's single- and multiplayer gameplay and then rewatch them? In Halo 3, you can.
Source (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3154702)
The game might end up sucking like Halo 2 but it sounds like Bungie is trying hard not to **** this up.
Not Yellow
10-27-2006, 03:42 PM
Vman..you just made my day.
Vman..you just made my day.
oh, im not done yet, bud!
last one:
Sorry doesn't work anymore
Not Yellow
10-27-2006, 03:51 PM
ilu vman.
you should post it..at the other place.
edit- nvm..just saw
ilu vman.
you should post it..at the other place.
edit- nvm..just saw
lol... too quick for you?:hardcore:
wulkar
10-27-2006, 04:11 PM
you missed one detail...
Collector's Edition
* "Legendary Edition" - box is a replica of Master Chief's helmet, includes 4-disc set:
o Disc one: game
o Disc two: documentaries and developer commentary
o Disc three: spin-off material (Red vs. Blue, Spark of Life, etc.)
o Disc four: all cut scenes from Halo 1-3 in HD
o Bonus: sneak peek of Halo movie will be included on one of the discs (maybe)
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/27/halo-3-info-leaked-in-portuguese-from-swedish/
EDIT: nvm i accually read it after i posted.
ACTUAL high def scans can be found here:
http://www.xboxic.com/news/1872
Bungie Speaks up: Entire Bungie Weekly Update (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?cid=9092)
The leaked scans this morning caused a huge fuss, and we’re not going to discuss any of that stuff here today – suffice it t say that subscribers will be getting their issues of EGM in the next few days, and they can read all about Halo 3 multiplayer (and more) in that magazine, and see some images that aren’t leaked on the interwebs already. I think you’ll find some very interesting and exclusive insights to come. The hi-res images will be available in all sorts of outlets eventually, including this here website, and we’ll go into more detail – and answer some of your questions at that time. And that won’t be the only Halo 3 info this year… there are one or two surprises still to come.
NiNeBReaKeR
10-27-2006, 08:50 PM
the legndary version sounds sweet but i hope its within my price range(which isnt very high lol) but as soon as i get my copy im going to finaly get xbox live so i can play with you guys,its gonna be faping awsome.
the legndary version sounds sweet but i hope its within my price range(which isnt very high lol) but as soon as i get my copy im going to finaly get xbox live so i can play with you guys,its gonna be faping awsome.
it's sounding like it will be around 100 bucks. it depends on how just the game will cost. hopefully that will stay at 50. but if its 60 then the legendary will be no less than 100, imo.
2 scenarios:
Game- 50
SE- 60
Legendary- 80
Game- 60
SE- 70
legendary- 100 ( i cant see it at 90 bucks... dont know why)
But thats just my guesstimate
Soda Jones
10-27-2006, 09:12 PM
Wow Vman, thanks for those awsome links
Wow Vman, thanks for those awsome links
you're welcome, brother :cool:
NiNeBReaKeR
10-27-2006, 10:02 PM
i think its going to be the second senario vman.
if it is, bungie better work hard to deserve that kind of cash.
EDIT: 2,000 posts YAY!!!! not gonna make a thread for it. just thought you guys should know.
NiNeBReaKeR
10-27-2006, 10:08 PM
if it is, bungie better work hard to deserve that kind of cash.
EDIT: 2,000 posts YAY!!!! not gonna make a thread for it. just thought you guys should know.
that they should,congrats on 2000 bro
mattgame
10-28-2006, 12:09 AM
if it is, bungie better work hard to deserve that kind of cash.
EDIT: 2,000 posts YAY!!!! not gonna make a thread for it. just thought you guys should know.
I recognize greatness Vman!! Congrats brother!
will it be more like halo 1 or halo 2 I wonder.... if its like halo, then I'll definally get it, if its like halo 2, I'll skip it.
Primal DL
10-28-2006, 08:30 AM
Im getting this game no matter what. the sotry line has be to hooked and I love the game all around.
Ill be waiting in line for 5 hours agian it looks like.
mattgame
10-28-2006, 08:43 AM
I won't because I'm going to preorder mines. Just take out the needler and I'm fine.
will it be more like halo 1 or halo 2 I wonder.... if its like halo, then I'll definally get it, if its like halo 2, I'll skip it.
well so far to me it LOOKS more like Halo1. But take that for what it's worth...:confused:
mattgame
10-28-2006, 09:16 AM
Except with the dual wielding and swords right?
NiNeBReaKeR
10-28-2006, 09:30 AM
i think they should keep all the weapons,just make them alot betterkinda like Quake and unreal tournement do.
Not Yellow
10-28-2006, 10:19 AM
I preordered mine, and I dont even have a 360 yet.
So looks like I have around a year to get one.
Except with the dual wielding and swords right?
well, i was just saying it "looked" like halo no played like halo.
l Maximus l
10-28-2006, 01:15 PM
I think that they are going to come out with a new Assault Rifle - and it's going to be the new starting weapon - it will likely be just a tad better than the current SMG...and when people get their hands on a Pistol, a BR, or anything else, you're going to be screwed when you respawn with a crap weapon again.
I hate to be the one to urinate on everyone's cornflakes, but, the fact that dual wielding is still in the game and the fact that there are teleporters that can make an MC fly across the entire map indicates that there is no fall damage. This game is going to suck like Halo 2 does compared to Halo 1.
Halo 3 may have elements of both games. I just hope that one of the the surprises that Bungie has is that the Legendary game disc will include an XBL version of Halo 1. If that's the case, I'm frothing at the mouth like Cujo.
ll Mista GT ll
10-28-2006, 02:57 PM
OMFG ORGASMMMMMMMM!! Halo 3 makes my heart stop, haven't felt that way since Halo 2!!
Primal DL
10-28-2006, 04:11 PM
has anyone heard prices on the LE and the one up?
ll Mista GT ll
10-28-2006, 05:43 PM
Nope, just be patient, promise? :) <3
l Maximus l
10-28-2006, 06:11 PM
Cadillax...are you becoming gay on us!?!??! I read your post in the Entertainment thread about Saw 3 and now this!?!?
bwahahahahhahaha :rofl:
Goku_69
10-28-2006, 06:30 PM
i am definatly getting it, I can't wait to get my hands on that spartan laser!
ll Mista GT ll
10-28-2006, 06:35 PM
Cadillax...are you becoming gay on us!?!??! I read your post in the Entertainment thread about Saw 3 and now this!?!?
bwahahahahhahaha :rofl:
I just love my fellow XBA Brethren! <3 :D
I just love my fellow XBA Brethren! <3 :D
you also love them very often
Whisper
10-28-2006, 10:21 PM
well, i was just saying it "looked" like halo no played like halo.
If it "looks" like Halo, Bungie is in trouble.
mattgame
10-28-2006, 10:40 PM
you also love them very often
and well.
X-Factor
10-29-2006, 12:23 PM
Freakin' awesome! I'm definitely getting Legendary. I needs me a Master Chief helmet.
Lemon
10-29-2006, 12:38 PM
same here!!
definately getting the legendary. and the cannon thing sounds kinda weird...like why the hell have cannons when you can just have teleporters, unless in the game settings you would be able to switch between whichever you want.
thatdude222
10-29-2006, 04:12 PM
hey... i liked halo 2.
NiNeBReaKeR
10-29-2006, 04:20 PM
same here!!
definately getting the legendary. and the cannon thing sounds kinda weird...like why the hell have cannons when you can just have teleporters, unless in the game settings you would be able to switch between whichever you want.
Cannons are better cause you can kill them in midair mwahahaha.
LiquidX
10-29-2006, 09:45 PM
Ill get the legendary. And I'll be in line waiting like I did with H2. Im about to go pre-order that baby tuesday.
Soda Jones
10-30-2006, 09:56 AM
Cannons? I do not freaking want Halo 3: Unreal Tournament edition.
FatBox
10-30-2006, 05:11 PM
I don't see what's so bad about Halo 2, as long as you start out with a battle rifle or a sniper rifle then there is really nothing bad about it. It would be cool to have Halo 1 be XBL enabled though.
l Maximus l
10-31-2006, 12:44 PM
Well, I played Halo 1 at a 10 man LAN party recently, and I can tell you that I had WAAAAY more fun playing Halo 1 in this setting over any time I have ever had with Halo 2.
I mean, CTF at Blood Gulch is freakin' amazing; however, CTF at Coagulation (Which looks basically the same as Blood Gulch) sucks bad. No one likes to play it.
I don't like vehicle damage...I miss being able to throw a grenade knowing that I would flip a Warthog if it when underneathe. I also STRONGLY prefer the Halo 1 rocket that doesn't lock and home like it does in Halo 2. Having Fall Damage prevents complete tools from hiding above you only to spray and pray that their plasma rifle and SMG duel wield kills the guy below as they jump down.
I can't stand radar...I miss the health system. I miss how the MC can throw grenades like a champ but throws like a little girl in Halo 2. I miss the physics of the grenades in Halo 1 in which they don't blow up in the air. I miss the Rocket Launcher and how it can kill someone if shot at your opponent's feet. I miss the normal jump instead of the Halo 2 High Jump.
I can't stand the Halo 2 sword. I also can't stand how the Plasma Rifle and Plasma Pistol doesn't freeze opponents like they did in Halo 1. I miss the old Shot Gun and Assault Rifle. I miss the old Sniper that doesn't recoil like it does in Halo 2. Oh yeah, did I mention that I missed the Pistol, too?
The BR is good, but, the three shot bursts is kind of cheesy...they could have atleast got away with a one shot weapon.
But, I agree, I don't think Halo 2 is a bad game. It's actually a good game that ended up being a royal disappointment as a successor of Halo 1.
I just hope that Bungie atleasts incorporates the gameplay of Halo 1 or adds a Halo 1 XBL component to the Halo 3 disc set. Hopefully Halo 1 is in the Legendary Bundle and works for XBL. If that's the case, I'm definately buying the Halo 3 Legendary Bundle!
Here's to wishing :cheers:
Themaingamer
10-31-2006, 01:21 PM
im so happy i could **** my pants:hardcore: :hardcore:
Well, I played Halo 1 at a 10 man LAN party recently, and I can tell you that I had WAAAAY more fun playing Halo 1 in this setting over any time I have ever had with Halo 2.
I mean, CTF at Blood Gulch is freakin' amazing; however, CTF at Coagulation (Which looks basically the same as Blood Gulch) sucks bad. No one likes to play it.
I don't like vehicle damage...I miss being able to throw a grenade knowing that I would flip a Warthog if it when underneathe. I also STRONGLY prefer the Halo 1 rocket that doesn't lock and home like it does in Halo 2. Having Fall Damage prevents complete tools from hiding above you only to spray and pray that their plasma rifle and SMG duel wield kills the guy below as they jump down.
I can't stand radar...I miss the health system. I miss how the MC can throw grenades like a champ but throws like a little girl in Halo 2. I miss the physics of the grenades in Halo 1 in which they don't blow up in the air. I miss the Rocket Launcher and how it can kill someone if shot at your opponent's feet. I miss the normal jump instead of the Halo 2 High Jump.
I can't stand the Halo 2 sword. I also can't stand how the Plasma Rifle and Plasma Pistol doesn't freeze opponents like they did in Halo 1. I miss the old Shot Gun and Assault Rifle. I miss the old Sniper that doesn't recoil like it does in Halo 2. Oh yeah, did I mention that I missed the Pistol, too?
The BR is good, but, the three shot bursts is kind of cheesy...they could have atleast got away with a one shot weapon.
But, I agree, I don't think Halo 2 is a bad game. It's actually a good game that ended up being a royal disappointment as a successor of Halo 1.
I just hope that Bungie atleasts incorporates the gameplay of Halo 1 or adds a Halo 1 XBL component to the Halo 3 disc set. Hopefully Halo 1 is in the Legendary Bundle and works for XBL. If that's the case, I'm definately buying the Halo 3 Legendary Bundle!
Here's to wishing :cheers:
single tear Maxy, single tear. That was beautiful and it's exactly what every true hardcore Halo fan is thinking. Semper Fi, BlTCHES!
Reclaimer
11-01-2006, 05:58 PM
Frankie said a long time ago that Halo 1 will never be on Xbox Live. It was not programmed that way, it has no means to be retrofitted for it and for it to be done, substantial changes to the games programming would have to be made.
At the time, one game was upgraded to play on XBL, through an XBL upgrade.. MotoGP I think, but that game was made with the intention having that done at a future date.
Halo CE does not have any way of being retrofitted to XBL without tearing the game apart and practically making a new game out of it.
Then comes the testing phases of the new archectecture which takes a long time to weed out the bugs.
Then comes the netcode testing which takes awhile to weed out the bugs.
Then comes the play testing to make sure it all works.
Frankie simply stated, to do all that, they would have to stop work on Halo 2 all together and that's just not part of the plan.
So, you can dream but I highly doubt Halo CE will be an XBL game. If you want to take it to the net, I recommend getting Halo PC, which is cheap and doesn't require a high end computer to play. My old 6600GT ran the game at full everything on and it's a blast. I still play Halo PC to this day.
I forsee a documentary, a soundtrack, interviews, but definately not a Halo CE redo.
Anyway.. the sword and weak pistol ruined Halo 2
l Maximus l
11-01-2006, 06:33 PM
Will Halo PC work on my lap top? I'm sure it's powerful enough, that is, if it will work?! I can always use a 360 controller since I'm not used to using a keyboard.
mattgame
11-01-2006, 08:58 PM
I agree Maxi with most of your points. I like the maps and the weapons of Halo 2. With the exception of the sword in multiplayer and the needler. I didn't care for the assault rifle in Halo 1. I loved the pistol, sniper and rocket. Anything Covey I didn't like. I would love to see the Halo 1 maps redone for Halo 3 especially Hang em High. Get rid of the needler. And make it so the fall damge is possible from crazy heights. I mean the suit should protect you somewhat but it was never said that it could absorb the shock of a crazy freefall. I love Halo, so I can't bash Halo2, I can hope that Halo3 improves on both previous games and hears our cries.
Reclaimer
11-01-2006, 09:34 PM
Will Halo PC work on my lap top? I'm sure it's powerful enough, that is, if it will work?! I can always use a 360 controller since I'm not used to using a keyboard.
I'm drunk right now but I will answer to the best of my ability.
I have Halo PC on my laptop, it's a Pavillion with an AMD 3000 Clawhammer 64 CPU, 1.2GB ram and a ATI M200. It runs the game but I have to turn some of the graphics down.
But it runs just fine.
My old desktop with the AMD barton 2500, 1gb ram and the 6600GT ran it at full tilt. My new desktop with the AMD 4400X2, 2gb ram and 7800GTs in SLI runs the game just fine as well.
When I play now, I use the wired Xbox 360 controller. (i have 2 wireless and 1 wired) For awhile in the past I used an Xbox S-Type controller that I cut the end of the cord and soldered a USB plug on.
Will Halo PC work on my lap top? I'm sure it's powerful enough, that is, if it will work?! I can always use a 360 controller since I'm not used to using a keyboard.
IMO Halo PC isn't worth it if you are trying to replace playing Halo on Xbox. The netcode is horrible compared to other multiplayer pc games and worse than some of the xbc lag at times. The game really isn't meant to be played with a controller, there's no aim assist (when the recticule turns red), leaving you at a disadvantage against mouse users. Halo PCs timing is also screwed up its not the same as the Halo ce timing.
l Maximus l
11-01-2006, 10:25 PM
I'm drunk right now but I will answer to the best of my ability.
I have Halo PC on my laptop, it's a Pavillion with an AMD 3000 Clawhammer 64 CPU, 1.2GB ram and a ATI M200. It runs the game but I have to turn some of the graphics down.
But it runs just fine.
My old desktop with the AMD barton 2500, 1gb ram and the 6600GT ran it at full tilt. My new desktop with the AMD 4400X2, 2gb ram and 7800GTs in SLI runs the game just fine as well.
When I play now, I use the wired Xbox 360 controller. (i have 2 wireless and 1 wired) For awhile in the past I used an Xbox S-Type controller that I cut the end of the cord and soldered a USB plug on.
Not to sound like a complete retard, but, how can I check the specs of my laptop? It's almost 2 years old now, but, I figure it should be strong enough.
Xorg...damn, that sucks, bro...the reticule turning red is key, especially for long distances. I figure I can figure out the timing issue, though. I seriously would use a controller over the keyboard because the keyboard is very foreign to me for playing games. Besides, it really wouldn't feel like "Halo" playing with a keyboard, IMO. I figure the game is probably cheap enough to not really lose much if I like it or not. What is it now, $10?
Not to sound like a complete retard, but, how can I check the specs of my laptop? It's almost 2 years old now, but, I figure it should be strong enough.
Right-click on "My Computer" then click "Properties." That should give you your specs.
Liquid Gears
11-02-2006, 02:15 PM
I'm sorry but I have to agree with Maximus on this one. I've always hated Halo 2... seriously ask my brother the Jackal. I like hangin' out with my friends online and all but other then that I think Bungie did a horrible job recreating Halo in Halo 2. Actually I can't say everything is bad... the new idea of the BR, duel wielding, and jumping on Ghosts as the pass by was a good move but everything else just give me a headache when playing.
The main thing I hate about online play is the ranking system OMG terrible. I never got why out of all game types except rumble pit why they have to base your 1-50 record on a team effort. If your playin 3v3 or 4v4 or whatever and your entire team blows and your the only guy who for example has over 20 kills (everyone else in the 1 digits no.'s) and you loose the game cause of them... WHY should your overall rank decrease?! It a joke and the biggest mistake I've seen from Bungie so far. In Halo 3 if the ranking system hasn't improved I'll be smokin' p'd off. Your rank number should be all you and that's it. It should be based on how you play not you AND your team.
Other then that I think they need to make a whole lot of changes with the weapons. Mainly focusing on the covy guns cause they suck and they seriously need to start making them preform more like the human arsenal selection. Halo 1 had that pistol that I think they should bring back to Halo 3 or at least give the new pistols a scope like the old days. Personally I think the sword in a nub weapon and it shouldn't be online at all but like in campaign how the sword had energy to keep it alive right? that should have been put into online. don't ask me why they didn't do that in the first place... I think it'd be cool to smack away sticky's with the sword if tossed at you. Maybe that'll be incorporated into Halo 3 we'll see.
Whatelse...?
Oh yeah. It also wouldn't hurt to have more choices of different human/alien races to use online. Example Brutes or Flood People. That'd be cool.
But that's me for now lol. TA!
mattgame
11-02-2006, 03:28 PM
They should make brutes playable characters online. Their skill would be if they get close enough to melee your ass it's wrap. Or let them have a boot stomp finisher like GOW.
l Maximus l
11-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Right-click on "My Computer" then click "Properties." That should give you your specs.
Thanks, vman...I have an Intel Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz 591MHz, 504 MB of RAM. I'm running Windows XP Home and I have the Service Pack 2 installed.
Will that work?
l Maximus l
11-06-2006, 03:05 PM
In my opinion, I don't think they should allow anyone other than MCs in gameplay whatsoever. One thing I do appreciate about Halo 2 about the Covenant being playable, atleast they have equal skill because if they didn't, it would have dramatically changed the gameplay and made it even worse.
I guess I'm all about having equal playing ground. That's my arguement, I guess.
Right now, I'm looking more forward to GoW than Halo 3, which comes out soon. Gamestop said November 9th is their release date. Can't wait!
Thanks, vman...I have an Intel Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz 591MHz, 504 MB of RAM. I'm running Windows XP Home and I have the Service Pack 2 installed.
Will that work?
i dunno but just look at the Halo box under "requirements" before you buy it.
Infraredragon
11-06-2006, 05:25 PM
Halo CE, System Requirements...
Microsoft® Windows® 98SE/Me/XP/2000
PC with 733 MHz equivalent or higher processor
128 MB of system RAM
1.2 GB available hard disk space
8x speed or faster CD-ROM drive
32 MB T&L capable video card required
Sound card, speakers or headphones required for audio
Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
56.6 Kbps or better modem or LAN for online play; broadband to run a server
Shorezy
11-07-2006, 05:44 PM
It does look like Halo 1 a little bit more...
Either way is cool with me, I just can't wait.
Thanks a lot for the links Vman, great finds.
datkid
12-16-2006, 11:49 AM
the spike nade sounds like u could maley some grunts n get soked in blue it:bang:
Sam-XBA
12-16-2006, 12:37 PM
Not to sound like a complete retard, but, how can I check the specs of my laptop? It's almost 2 years old now, but, I figure it should be strong enough.
Xorg...damn, that sucks, bro...the reticule turning red is key, especially for long distances. I figure I can figure out the timing issue, though. I seriously would use a controller over the keyboard because the keyboard is very foreign to me for playing games. Besides, it really wouldn't feel like "Halo" playing with a keyboard, IMO. I figure the game is probably cheap enough to not really lose much if I like it or not. What is it now, $10?
I've always gone to "run" and typed in "dxdiag" press return and brings up everything I need to know.
Conchord
12-20-2006, 03:57 AM
there is no way in hell they will charge 50 bucks for just the game, not since you ****ers have paid 60 without so much as a second look for next gen games, why the hell would they lose out on that much more profit?
mattgame
12-22-2006, 09:12 PM
So you haven't bought a 60 dollar game yet?
Conchord
12-23-2006, 08:53 AM
i go to sams club, theyre 55 there :p
mattgame
12-23-2006, 09:49 AM
i go to sams club, theyre 55 there :p
damn:D
Conchord
12-23-2006, 10:37 AM
also if anyone feels like sending me a free copy of viva pinata, pm me!
Conchord
12-26-2006, 09:44 PM
the spike nade sounds like u could maley some grunts n get soked in blue it:bang:
what?
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