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Kilik
03-23-2002, 08:38 AM
I was wondering how old you all think a kid should be to play
Blood Omen 2. I am a 37 years old and a hard core gamer I have
played video games ever since I was a kid. My son is 14 years
old and I let him play most all of the mature rated games around.
It is my belief that they are just games and can do no harm. I
mean my son is smart enough to know not to do the things you
can do in video games.What is everyones opinion on this subject?

Kilik
03-23-2002, 08:42 AM
I would also like to say , although I'm a hard core gamer my son
kicks serious but. He can beat most games very fast it's amazing.

xboxer2002
03-23-2002, 08:52 AM
I say let him play what he wants. As long as your teaching him reality from videogames ,and that videogames are just entertainment,you'll be just fine.I know of alot of people who restrict their kids activities with videogames ,staying out late,etc.Those kids have more problems than someone who has been able to have alittle freedom and make some of their own observations.That's why I believe alot of priests are kinda fruity with kids,because they don't have any kind of life to live and are restricted of everything. I say let him play it.

Nato King-XBA
03-23-2002, 09:01 AM
All I can say is that old is old and your son is 14 I think that is a good age to play mature games. I was playing mature games since I started the gaming industry and You did say that your son is smart enough to know not to do the things you can do in video games so what is the problem. Let the boy play Blood Oman 2 he will have a good time. Like I said before I have some high hopes for this game. I should rent it on Sunday.:) :)

Kilik
03-23-2002, 09:12 AM
Thanks for the replies peeps my son is indeed enjoying the game
very much as I knew he would. I wonder how many hours of game play we can expect?

Batman2372
03-23-2002, 09:55 AM
Kilik,

The same could be true about movies. They aren't real either, so are you prepared to allow your son to watch rated R movies? Or if you even want to take it to the extreme, X and above?

My personal feelings are that they've made a rating system for a reason, and you should probably abide by that. However, it all depends on you. I personally won't be playing Blood Omen II, and I wouldn't let my kids, either. The same would be true of GTAIII. There's too much stuff in it that is questionable/objectionable for me.

Jacob S.
03-23-2002, 11:28 AM
I've listened to rap since around Kindergarten. I'm not sure how much you know about hip hop, but I grew up listening to Public Enemy, N.W.A, Bone Thugs, and Tupac. I've also been watching R rated movies since first or second grade. You know, Terminator 2, Predator, Die Hard, that sort of thing. I got into first person shooters right when Wolfenstein 3D came out and while my mother thought that I was too young, my dad did let me play Doom when she wasn't around. Now I'm 18, still enjoy everything that I just mentioned, but don't have a shred of violence in me. The senseless conflict between the Isreali and Palestinian people drives me absolutely insane, and America's support of Isreal's boarderline genocidal actions is even worse. I'm also probably one of 5% of the students in my graduating class who don't drink or do drugs on a regular basis. You see, my parents didn't try to shield me from the world, they respected me as a young human being and taught me the difference between right and wrong.

We learn everything from those around us. How we react to certain situations, how we talk, and our perceptions of right and wrong are built by those around us: parents and peers especially. Contrary to what politicians might have you beleive, when children kill other children it has nothing to do with Rap or Doom. It's a societal problem. Murders are uncommon in Japan, but the kids there also play violent games and listen to "gangsta rap."

If you've been as real with your son as my father was with me then it shouldn't be a problem. Educate him, teach him what drugs actually do to his body, make sure he understands that murder is wrong and video games aren't reality. By the age of 14 he should already be well aware of the difference between polygons and flesh and bone, and you shouldn't have to discuss it with him.

I say let him play :cool:

Plewis
03-23-2002, 09:08 PM
I say it is up to u dad. U should raise ur child not a bunch of faceless words on the internet;)

Calve
03-24-2002, 03:30 PM
Hey im turning 14 soon and i play every game!!!!!! I don't go out beating the hell out of everyone after playing doa3 or go out melle attacking people with my controller after playing halo...................:D

Kleen
03-27-2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Jacob S.
I've listened to rap since around Kindergarten. I'm not sure how much you know about hip hop, but I grew up listening to Public Enemy, N.W.A, Bone Thugs, and Tupac. I've also been watching R rated movies since first or second grade. You know, Terminator 2, Predator, Die Hard, that sort of thing. I got into first person shooters right when Wolfenstein 3D came out and while my mother thought that I was too young, my dad did let me play Doom when she wasn't around. Now I'm 18, still enjoy everything that I just mentioned, but don't have a shred of violence in me. The senseless conflict between the Isreali and Palestinian people drives me absolutely insane, and America's support of Isreal's boarderline genocidal actions is even worse. I'm also probably one of 5% of the students in my graduating class who don't drink or do drugs on a regular basis. You see, my parents didn't try to shield me from the world, they respected me as a young human being and taught me the difference between right and wrong.

We learn everything from those around us. How we react to certain situations, how we talk, and our perceptions of right and wrong are built by those around us: parents and peers especially. Contrary to what politicians might have you beleive, when children kill other children it has nothing to do with Rap or Doom. It's a societal problem. Murders are uncommon in Japan, but the kids there also play violent games and listen to "gangsta rap."

If you've been as real with your son as my father was with me then it shouldn't be a problem. Educate him, teach him what drugs actually do to his body, make sure he understands that murder is wrong and video games aren't reality. By the age of 14 he should already be well aware of the difference between polygons and flesh and bone, and you shouldn't have to discuss it with him.

I say let him play :cool:

I grew up the same way, only I'm about six years older so it was Terminator instead of Terminator 2. I've been exposed to simulated sex & violence from the moment we got our first VCR (about 1984-5, I believe). Movies and videogames are just entertainment, once your kid hits 11-13 yrs. old, I think that old enough to play mature games and watch 'R' rated movies. If your kid turns out rotten he was probably screwed up to begin with. Parents tend to blame everyone but themselves (or the kid) these days. If your kid is failing all his classes, the teacher is failing him. It couldn't be that the kid is just dumb and/or lazy, or that you are not doing your job as a parent, right?:rolleyes:

As for a kid getting his hands (or eyes) on porn--get real. We're talking about a 13 year old, right? Don't you remember when you were 13? If the kid has friends, then he has access to porn. And with every kid's best friend, the internet, forget it. There's nothing you can do to prevent that. If he wants it, and is resourceful, he'll get it. When I was 11 or 12 we had all kinds of access to that stuff. Hell, there were kids on my suburban block having sex at that age, and that was over 10 years ago! Anyway, good luck with the kid. Just remember that the kid is not a robot, and you can't program him to do everything you want him to do. Just try your best, and hopefully everything will work out.

Sonic
03-27-2002, 12:04 PM
kleen is right!

my parents never tought me the difference between games/reality but i learned it on my own.. i mean come on.. when is a blue hedgehog gonna go kill robots and go supersonic? never... so i think kleen pretty much said everything i think on this matter.

l Maximus l
03-27-2002, 02:44 PM
I agree with Batman2372. Personally, games like Grand Theft Auto 3 is not for a 14 year old. But, it also depends on the kid...some kids develop faster than others. I mean, there's always things out there that are more extreme than the other...

But, a game like Halo, in my opinion, shouldn't be rated M. I think it's more like a Teen rated game, if you ask me. Yes, it's violent and yes there is death, however, it's hardly a game that can be passed off as being real. I think parental supervision for someone who is 14 would definately apply.

Anyway...I'm 26 and I'm not a father quite yet, however, I know for a fact that I won't be playing exceptionally violent games in the presence of my future kid. Instead, he can wait patiently in his room while I go crazy!!! :D

terrapin
03-27-2002, 03:04 PM
from Maximus, I know for a fact that I won't be playing exceptionally violent games in the presence of my future kid.

I agree with you. I don't have kids but see the need to protect them from violence.

Kleen
03-27-2002, 03:07 PM
I weep for the parents of any 12 - 13 old kids who can't handle GTA3. Yes, it's violent, but it's cartoon violence. And it's storyline is nothing they can't see on cable, rent from Blockbuster, or watch on broadcast television (minus the expletives). The language in this game is nothing these kids aren't using on each other in the street on in school. GTA3 does have a mature theme, but at 13 I would hope a person (for their sake) could deal with it.

Crazy Joe
03-27-2002, 03:12 PM
the GTA3 storyline may be alright for a 12-13 year old, some at least, but some of the stuff you can do just free roaming around, it's pretty hardcore, and some kids might be ready for it, but alot of kids could get the wrong idea. Parents have to make the call when it comes to stuff like this, but i can see alot of parents restricting games like GTA3.

Kleen
03-27-2002, 03:37 PM
Oh, I can totally see how or why a parent (especially a mom) would not buy the game for their kid, knowing or seeing what it's about. But I don't think that's giving the kid much credit. I guess it's all subjective. Buying a kid GTA3 is not the same as buying him every volume of "Faces of Death," but neither is going to turn him into a murderer (mass, axe, or otherwise). :eek:

aronx
03-27-2002, 05:00 PM
The only reason there are ratings on anything (movies, games, etc.) is because parents are lazy and dont want to take an active role in what their kids are doing. Therefore, they rely on the government and everyone else to police what their kids play. I think if you play games with your kid and actually show some interest in what he is doing he'll be fine.

Kleen
03-27-2002, 05:58 PM
There is a mother in New Jersey, I think, who is sueing because her kid looked at porn on the internet at the library. That should be thrown out of court.