i got a preorder for the x-box and i didn't have to get a bundle, i walked in to future shop, said i wanted to preorder the x-box, and he said "okay", i put down 100$ canadian, and now on november 8th i too get one when all i will buy with it is halo, a second controller, and a dvd remote seperatly. I asked if future shop was getting everything in store on november 8th, and he said, "the whole kit and kubbutel" (whatever that means, i beleive he meant 'yes') :P