I own a Geforce 4 64 mb Ti4200 Gainward. I don't feel regret for upgrading form a GF2 to GF4 but ATI's 9700 destroys this card. But isn't it part of propaganda to try to get some of us to buy it by saying it fully supports DX9 and that DOOM 3 will support it as well? At first I felt like ripping out my hair, but I remembered that they mentioned a year or 2 ago that Geforce 3 could handle it with no problems (GF3 would have the features to play Doom 3, they even ran the darn thing on it). Plus no one can harness DX9 for 1-3 years, they barely harness DX8. It's just a little fishy that they're making you feel like you wasted your money when X-Box (with a slightly slower GPU than the Ti4200) can run Doom 3 with the game graphically intact.