Backwards Compatibility For Xbox?

[Bakeman]

What I'm saying is, that since Xbox 2 will not have it's most anticipated game (Halo 3) as a launch title, it could really use a big library of games upfront to compensate for that.

Have we gotten a release date for xbox 2 from microsoft? I know everyone is saying 2005 for Xbox2, but that just doesn't seem right.

It's surprising to me that they would bring it out in 2005. Anyways I'm just saying that it would be better for teh xbox 2 to come out later with the release of Halo 3.

[Peepers]

[QUOTE=Bakeman]Have we gotten a release date for xbox 2 from microsoft? I know everyone is saying 2005 for Xbox2, but that just doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE

I've also heard 2005. If it happens in 2005 it will probably be in late 2005--say November 15, 2005.

It's surprising to me that they would bring it out in 2005. Anyways I'm just saying that it would be better for teh xbox 2 to come out later with the release of Halo 3.

All things being equal, it would be best for the release of Halo 3 and Xbox 2 to coincide, but realistically that would probably mean pushing the Xbox 2 back until late 2006 at the earliest. In short, it's pretty much impossible unless they do a major rush job on Halo 3.

[Conchord]

. In short, it's pretty much impossible unless they do a major rush job on Halo 3.

From what Ive heard, there isnt going to be a Halo 3. Halo 2 is supposedly the last one.

[Peepers]

From what Ive heard, there isnt going to be a Halo 3. Halo 2 is supposedly the last one.

I've heard that too, but I kinda doubt MS and bungie will give up on the cash cow. Moreover, Masterchief has become and Xbox icon--one we shouldn't be left without.

[Bakeman]

I've heard that too, but I kinda doubt MS and bungie will give up on the cash cow. Moreover, Masterchief has become and Xbox icon--one we shouldn't be left without.

I agree, just seems like a bad idea to give up on halo after just 2. They can make so much more money out of it.


I would like it better if PS3 and Xbox2 wait until 2006. I don't think we are going to need the next gen systems in 2005.

[Brutus]

Have we gotten a release date for xbox 2 from microsoft? I know everyone is saying 2005 for Xbox2, but that just doesn't seem right.

It's surprising to me that they would bring it out in 2005. Anyways I'm just saying that it would be better for teh xbox 2 to come out later with the release of Halo 3.

Everything Summed up into one:
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...y.php?id=106381
It contains all of the specs on Xenon... &:
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...y.php?id=106364
How we'll probably end up with BC
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Alright. Just copy & paste the links. But yeah, I'll be playing my Xenon in November of '05. Being released with Gems such as Half-Life 2, Doom 3: Optimized, Perfect Dark, Some type of Splinter Cell and then the one they're talking about, that war one.
With XNA, more and more developers are jumping on the Microsoft window's based programming. Square Enix will be developing on future microsoft projects, including consoles. & every other good game that is on the verge.
Can we all ask the question: Why did XSN sports take a year off of developing sports games for the current Xbox. They announced they'll be back next year! Same time as the release with the Xenon. Fever '05, in a real way! Amped 3! Project Gotham Racing 3! NHL Rivals '05!
The list goes on & on. With a console that's easy to develop for, they're going to be coming out with the same material as before, a perfect integration of First Party Titles, as well as third party solid games. I'm looking forward to it all!
My only beef is that I hope it carries the Hard-Drive. We'll see I suppose.

[Gronok]

I really don't care either, I am getting Xbox 2 even if they will need Memory Cards. I love xbox and I love xbox games and I always will. If its going to go backwards that will suck that I wont be able to play my old xbox games on xbox 2. But I am getting it either ways and i am sure it will be awesome.

[E Nomini Patri]

From what Ive heard, there isnt going to be a Halo 3. Halo 2 is supposedly the last one.

There has been nothing said to clarify that Halo 2 is the last Halo. Nor has there been anything said to clarify that there will be a Halo 3. It's all rumors, down to the last punctuation mark.

[Brutus]

There has been nothing said to clarify that Halo 2 is the last Halo. Nor has there been anything said to clarify that there will be a Halo 3. It's all rumors, down to the last punctuation mark.

Totally, man. There was nothing to signify a Doom III either. Now look what we're looking at.

[XBX_Junior_XBX]

Yes, I do wanna see backwards compatibility for the xbox and also a huge darn harddrive in it. I do not want go back to memory cards.

[Brutus]

Boycott on FLash Memory cards! ARGHH!!!

[Stormlord]

I'd really like to see legacy support but I doubt that it's a system seller. I mean for years I've bought systems with no BC...but if you can then why the hell not? BC can help boost sales, what has a lot of people excited about the Nintendo DS is that it can play GBA games. Either way I'll still get the next Xbox.

But on a side note you should see something. Remember when Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City and Madden dominated the sales charts, and yet almost 3 years old and Halo still is in the top 10 or 20 sales. Some people still want to play the old games. If anything, just wait till someone makes something similar to the Bleemcast so you can run old Xbox games on the new one.

[Brutus]

Man, if it's so hard for them to make the console itself Backwards Compatible, they ought to take & remake the games optimized for their Video Card! You know, like re-release Doom III & Half-Life 2 as New games for $19.99 optimized for Xenon or XboxNext, whatever you want to call it.
I think they may but I don't know how the Nvidia & Radeon's are as far as programming differences.
They could re-release a lot of stellar games that way, right out of the gates:
Thief, Rainbow Six 3, HALO 2, Battlefield 1942, Doom III & Half Life 2's are given's but look at all of the PC games out now that had to be tuned down just for the Xbox to even handle? Morrowind anyone? Imagine it even better! I don't have a PC that'll play games worth a darn so a console is definitely my Game Spot of Choice.
I hope they throw in something like this. It'd add a certain coolness to a new machine: A boat load of killer software, right out of the box!!!

[SoundX]

Man, if it's so hard for them to make the console itself Backwards Compatible, they ought to take & remake the games optimized for their Video Card! You know, like re-release Doom III & Half-Life 2 as New games for $19.99 optimized for Xenon or XboxNext, whatever you want to call it.
I think they may but I don't know how the Nvidia & Radeon's are as far as programming differences.
They could re-release a lot of stellar games that way, right out of the gates:
Thief, Rainbow Six 3, HALO 2, Battlefield 1942, Doom III & Half Life 2's are given's but look at all of the PC games out now that had to be tuned down just for the Xbox to even handle? Morrowind anyone? Imagine it even better! I don't have a PC that'll play games worth a darn so a console is definitely my Game Spot of Choice.
I hope they throw in something like this. It'd add a certain coolness to a new machine: A boat load of killer software, right out of the box!!!

That's a damn good idea. But even so, I don't think anyone would want to pay even a small amount like $20 for games they've already bought. Say the Xbox has 20 killer games that you want to keep with you and play on the X2. That's still a damn lot of money to pay for games you already own.

This is a stupid idea but they could offer them for download through the X2's online service, as long as you have proof of purchase or something. That type of thing anyway.

[Brutus]

That's a damn good idea. But even so, I don't think anyone would want to pay even a small amount like $20 for games they've already bought. Say the Xbox has 20 killer games that you want to keep with you and play on the X2. That's still a damn lot of money to pay for games you already own.

This is a stupid idea but they could offer them for download through the X2's online service, as long as you have proof of purchase or something. That type of thing anyway.

True, that would be optimum. Download it. I like the idea that it can read my game right out of the box though. That'd be sweet...
I was just saying that if I could buy Half Life 2 Optimized with that Xenon Muscle @ $19.99 or even HALO 1 & 2 optimized & on the same disc for the Xenon, I wouldn't be too sad about losing it.
I mean, it's cheasy to say what I'm about to, but for the first time EVER in video gaming have we gotten so attached to these machines. (Only because they're so cool.)

I.E. - Just the other day when I was binge-ing on some ESPN 2K5 when I wanted to take the save file from my living room Xbox to the Bedroom one... I'm scrolling through the save files over the last few years & I'm like - "Wow". (I.E.) It shows the date & time that you were there... Like that time when I should have been sleeping for work @ 4:15 AM on a thursday finishing up Deus Ex invisible war a year ago.
I guess, what I'm saying is that box has so much crap that it would be detrimental to see it go. Man, I've painted it & ruled so many poor saps on it for years now. Easily the most used console I've ever had.
When I bought my new S.E. Halo Xbox, I didn't get rid of the old one. It's been through so much. I painted it & then the Thomson Drive went out. Instead of chucking it (COuldn't send to M$ it was painted) I replaced the drive. Now if it was my old Dreamcast or PS2, I'd have just chucked it, but this thing has YEARS(!) of Memories locked on a metallic disc attached to it's innards! That's why the things get attached to us. The Memories. (For example, playing Fever '04 on the fourth of July, It recongnizes it & says, "Happy Fourth of July!" I almost crapped my pants!)
Man, my dad visited from Iowa & his Character in HALO is there untouched, preserved.
I tell you, M$, if you want to pry this machine from our hands, you'd better do it the right way. Put the Harddrive in Xenon, & just make sure you put those good games out. The one's with the Good Memories. Then I'll gladly make a transition.
How's that for Backwards Compatibility?

[RinG_WuRm]

It doesn't seem like the hardware is dated yet... I am a little puzzled by a 2005 xbox2,,, I hope that it would be backwards compatible, it really wouldn't stop me from buying one tho~, I would just wait a bit for the first price drop...

[Brutus]

IMO, it's in Microsoft's best opinion to do BackComp. because if not, then they'll literally be trying to support two consoles simultaneously.
Bill G. Himself knows that if you try to compete against yourself, it'll put you in the ground.

[SoundX]

Now that I think about it, all the consoles I've seen without backwards compatibility have always lost out to the consoles with it. And think about how much more possible success consoles like the Dreamcast and GCN would probably have had with that feature.
It's one of the prime features that the buyer looks for, reguardless of how much use they actualy get out of. PS1 owners logical choice being the PS2, GBA gamers logical choice being the Nintendo DS. Makes sense, even though they'll probably get min play from it.

They can't really support two machines at once. It's made easy for say Playstation One, where they can design a game for that and then not worry about what machine is used for it. When your constantly working on two seperate projects, in the same current buisness, your screwed.

[death0crow]

I think that it would be dumb to come out with one of the biggest games to ever come out on console ( Halo 2 ) , then not have Xbox 2 be backwards compatible. As for the memory cards, I don't like em, never have, never will. The little things are always getting lost.

[Brutus]

I think that it would be dumb to come out with one of the biggest games to ever come out on console ( Halo 2 ) , then not have Xbox 2 be backwards compatible. As for the memory cards, I don't like em, never have, never will. The little things are always getting lost.

No doubt. I can see it already. Even if it is a HUGE memory stick & holds a lot of information. I'll be saving a game & My A.C. will kick on & then the power outage & then when I turn the console back on & it'll tell me that the whole memory stick's memory was corrupted. Great! I just lost all saves! I'm so not looking to use those stupid memory cards, or the sticks. In fact if they do, especially at my age, I'm just going to get out of Videogames all together. I've experienced a lot, but I'm not going to get set back. & being set back also includes not being able to play the game of the century on my current machine.