I played Halo 1 over XBC for 8 solid hours last Saturday

**l Maximus l** · 04-04-2005, 02:42 PM

Why am I sharing this?

Because, I had the most fun playing a video game in over 4 months. I played it over XBC and I didn't even host once. I kept joining other people's servers the entire time. My only disappointment was that there was only, at most, 15 available servers at one time when there used to be around 300 before Halo 2 was released.

This is the honest truth: I had more fun playing with lag and my opponent, who was hosting and had a host advantage, compared to playing Halo 2 on XBox Live.

Now, for those of you who just may consider flaming me, the reason why I don't like Halo 2 is because of the Havok engine. The Havok engine butchered the game and it completely changed the entire physics of Halo. So, bottom-line, Halo 2 is, in it's completeness, a different game than Halo 1. And, my major disappointment with Halo 2 is that it is so extremely different when I, like many other Halo 1 fans, expected it to be the same with a bunch of new maps, some new weapons, and a few new capabilities (like vehicle boarding). I think duel wielding would have been an okay addition if Halo 2 was using the Halo 1 engine. The Havok engine screwed up the Halo series.

So, this is a rally for the Halo 1 troops! Get your asses back on XBC and let's share in the good old days

**No Fear 23** · 04-04-2005, 03:08 PM

i tried getting back into it, but hated it.

halo 2 is so much better.

**l Maximus l** · 04-04-2005, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by No Fear 23

i tried getting back into it, but hated it.

halo 2 is so much better.

It's better how? Better because there is not as much lag?

**Whisper** · 04-04-2005, 03:31 PM

maybe he just has more fun playing it.. wait that's impossible right?

**l Maximus l** · 04-04-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Whisper

maybe he just has more fun playing it.. wait that's impossible right?

All I did was ask for him to elaborate a little more. You don't have to be such a smart ass.

**# 1 Stunner** · 04-04-2005, 04:04 PM

i can say i enjoy playing halo 2 more, not because of gameplay, just mostly because of the amount of people you can play with, how easy it is to find games and such and not messing with that xbc bullchit, its just a pain in the ass to me.....mostly bc my computer is downstairs and xbox is upstairs, but overall halo 2 is much easier to play even though its the lesser game...

**Whisper** · 04-04-2005, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by l Maximus l

All I did was ask for him to elaborate a little more. You don't have to be such a smart ass.

no, the smart asses are the ones going around telling the people who say they have more fun playing Halo 2 that they are "wrong" and it is impossible to have more fun playing Halo 2, and if you do, you're "wrong" and "don't understand" or you "sucked at Halo 1"

**thrAsher** · 04-04-2005, 04:11 PM

Me and a buddy of mine were talking about the Halo/Halo 2 thang the other night. We both agreed that Halo 2 could never compete w/ the original for various reasons.

What we decided was that Halo had 'the surprise' (ie: the Flood), better SP battles, and a more coherent, thought out story. And basically all Halo 2 has is a better multi. He argued Halo CE's was better, but that's garbage. He just never got used to the dual wielding, which I think along w/ boarding vehicles makes Halo 2's multi the better. And we both hate XBC for the lag, but couldn't possibly throw a LAN party w/o everybody bringing a copy of Halo CE.

But, all in all, we did agree that Halo is a timeless classic, while Halo 2 is simply a sequel. Great series, but it can never touch the overall greatness that we all felt playing the first.

**Soundscape** · 04-04-2005, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Whisper

no, the smart asses are the ones going around telling the people who say they have more fun playing Halo 2 that they are "wrong" and it is impossible to have more fun playing Halo 2,

i don't think anyone here has ever said that.

Originally Posted by No Fear 23

halo 2 is so much better.

yeah, i guess if noobed out = much better

i know i've said this before, but i think halo 2 was designed so that just about any gamer could pick up a controller and be decent at the game. halo 2 is a game that was made to be convenient to n00bs, as totten said a while back.
duel wielding, the massive ammount of auto-aim, smg start, the sword, grenades that don't overturn moving vehicles, no fall damage, rockets that lock on, ect., ect...it's all lame as hell.
and if i didn't have xbl i wouldn't ever play halo 2. but i must say i enjoy playing mlg custom gametypes over xbl. but because of all the games flaws, it can be pretty fun and really frustrating all at the same time. but i kinda suck sometimes, though :/

**Reclaimer** · 04-04-2005, 05:08 PM

I'll do you one better. Halo PC. Just like Halo 1 except less lag if any than what you get on XBC, 1 new warthog that's cooler than the guass hog, 2 extra guns (flame thrower and plasma mortar) and 5 new big ass maps.

Don't anyone dare tell me that Halo PC is laggier than XBC. I played for a few hours last night and if I came across lag, it was minimum and the guy who was causing it got booted from the game.
I found a joystick I can use. That was my biggest problem was that I'm so used to playing Halo with a joystick that it felt alien using a keyboard. So I picked up a Logitech Dual Action. Looks unfortunately like a PS2 dual shock though. But it works fine for me. So I get the best of all worlds. Halo 1 goodness and a few extra things.

Man, I love having that pistol.

Seriously though, I really like PC gaming now for some reason. Maybe because I never really could in the past.

**# 1 Stunner** · 04-04-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Reclaimer-XBA

I'll do you one better. Halo PC. Just like Halo 1 except less lag if any than what you get on XBC, 1 new warthog that's cooler than the guass hog, 2 extra guns (flame thrower and plasma mortar) and 5 new big ass maps.

Don't anyone dare tell me that Halo PC is laggier than XBC. I played for a few hours last night and if I came across lag, it was minimum and the guy who was causing it got booted from the game.
I found a joystick I can use. That was my biggest problem was that I'm so used to playing Halo with a joystick that it felt alien using a keyboard. So I picked up a Logitech Dual Action. Looks unfortunately like a PS2 dual shock though. But it works fine for me. So I get the best of all worlds. Halo 1 goodness and a few extra things.

Man, I love having that pistol.

Seriously though, I really like PC gaming now for some reason. Maybe because I never really could in the past.

onep roblem i hear about is halo pc is all about vehicles, like all people do is whore banshees and fly around all the time, and this is coming from the orignal halo fans saying it was kinda lame...just not t he same with 16 people or more...

**l Maximus l** · 04-04-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Reclaimer-XBA

I'll do you one better. Halo PC. Just like Halo 1 except less lag if any than what you get on XBC, 1 new warthog that's cooler than the guass hog, 2 extra guns (flame thrower and plasma mortar) and 5 new big ass maps.

Don't anyone dare tell me that Halo PC is laggier than XBC. I played for a few hours last night and if I came across lag, it was minimum and the guy who was causing it got booted from the game.
I found a joystick I can use. That was my biggest problem was that I'm so used to playing Halo with a joystick that it felt alien using a keyboard. So I picked up a Logitech Dual Action. Looks unfortunately like a PS2 dual shock though. But it works fine for me. So I get the best of all worlds. Halo 1 goodness and a few extra things.

Man, I love having that pistol.

Seriously though, I really like PC gaming now for some reason. Maybe because I never really could in the past.

I would love to do it, man. I just don't have the interest in souping up my PC to run it...Well, let me rephrase it: I don't have the extra funds to soup up my PC to run the game...I definately have the interest, though!

Hey, did you know that you can purchase a USB adapter that can plug in your XBox controller to your PC? www.lik-sang.com had one there...atleast at one time. I haven't checked it out recently, though. I bet that would be kick ass!

Damn, I may have to come up with the funds because H2 is such a disappointment and I need something new and exciting.

**TOTTEN** · 04-04-2005, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by thrAsher

Me and a buddy of mine were talking about the Halo/Halo 2 thang the other night. We both agreed that Halo 2 could never compete w/ the original for various reasons.

What we decided was that Halo had 'the surprise' (ie: the Flood), better SP battles, and a more coherent, thought out story. And basically all Halo 2 has is a better multi. He argued Halo CE's was better, but that's garbage. He just never got used to the dual wielding, which I think along w/ boarding vehicles makes Halo 2's multi the better. And we both hate XBC for the lag, but couldn't possibly throw a LAN party w/o everybody bringing a copy of Halo CE.

But, all in all, we did agree that Halo is a timeless classic, while Halo 2 is simply a sequel. Great series, but it can never touch the overall greatness that we all felt playing the first.

I completley agree except I think Halo: CE has better multiplayer. Halo 2s online aspects are much better except for the most important part GAMEPLAY.

**Reclaimer** · 04-04-2005, 05:37 PM

Oooh! Oooh! I need to get the Xbox controller USB adapter. That would rock seriously.

It does get chaotic with every vehicle turned on in the game. I played Blood Gulch CTF with a full 16 people and each side had 2 Scorpions, 4 warthogs, 3 ghosts and 1 banshee. It was mayhem! Well, it was fun. You can turn these things on and off.. you know? There's only 4 maps that supports the Banshees and usually get 2. Except for Danger Canyon that runs 4 banshees. But these are the cool banshees that can stop, back up and drop plasma bombs and then get themselves shot down by someone with the assault rifle.

**Regosnot** · 04-04-2005, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Reclaimer-XBA

I'll do you one better. Halo PC. Just like Halo 1 except less lag if any than what you get on XBC, 1 new warthog that's cooler than the guass hog, 2 extra guns (flame thrower and plasma mortar) and 5 new big ass maps.

Don't anyone dare tell me that Halo PC is laggier than XBC. I played for a few hours last night and if I came across lag, it was minimum and the guy who was causing it got booted from the game.
I found a joystick I can use. That was my biggest problem was that I'm so used to playing Halo with a joystick that it felt alien using a keyboard. So I picked up a Logitech Dual Action. Looks unfortunately like a PS2 dual shock though. But it works fine for me. So I get the best of all worlds. Halo 1 goodness and a few extra things.

Man, I love having that pistol.

Seriously though, I really like PC gaming now for some reason. Maybe because I never really could in the past.

The only problem is that my computer isn't that great and I have trouble playing some games. So my Xbox is alot more convient to me. I would go on XBC if anyone else is going on. Once I get a new computer everything will change.

**l Maximus l** · 04-04-2005, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Regosnot

The only problem is that my computer isn't that great and I have trouble playing some games. So my Xbox is alot more convient to me. I would go on XBC if anyone else is going on. Once I get a new computer everything will change.

Dude, I'm definately going back to Halo 1 and play on XBC. I just need to get more people to do it more often. Honestly, I haven't had this much fun in four months

I played a round of BG CTF...2 v 2...I couldn't believe it when I saw my opponent's Warthog do a flip when I stuffed a grenade on the ground in front of it.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe that Halo 2 is a very good game...just not for hardcore Halo CE fans. Halo 2 is like "Halo" but for everyone else.

**FB-Gollum** · 04-04-2005, 06:25 PM

It's funny. I agree and disagree with so much. I mean, is Halo 2 noobed out? Sure to a degree. Not so much as I think people claim because I still see a pretty massive disparity in skill. Given the curve is much sharper this time around with a more massive pooling at the bottom. In essence, due to it's ease, it's that much harder to break away from the pack. That said, I think Halo CE was pretty noobed out itself relative to PC games. Seriously, Halo CE was a game you could just jump into, get the hang of within about 30 minutes, and hold your own against most average players. PC Games own Halo when it comes to "skills" required. Try jumping into a game of Rogue Spear or Raven Shield online even after completing the campaign. You'll get owned so hard by even medicore players. It's utterly unforgiving. Halo doesn't even have a blooming ret.
In the time it takes you to get Halo's controls down and be reasonably comfortable with them, you'll just be figuring out the differences between firing SMG's and AR's. Never mind learning to snipe. No "2 quick shots" here. 1 shot, 1 kill, or else. *(Please do not mention the Xbox version of R6, as it is SUPER noobed out compared to the PC version).

I guess my point here is, while we're all calling Halo 2 a noob fest, let's try to remember what we're comparing to wasn't exactly the steepest learning curve itself.