Dave
02-27-2003, 11:41 PM
I have most the worthwhile wrestling games, and like probably a lot of grappler game fans, still waiting for the next generation title comparable to No Mercy or WM 2000, and everytime the future looks bright, I read bad news that makes me think, grappler game fans might just be screwed.
As far as Xbox goes, I bought RAW with high hopes, only to get a game that lacked blood, extra's, a crappy CAW, and the game was delayed for a long time, and still the game came out like crap with an old roster after all the delays. Just read RAW 2 is delayed, so the best I can hope for is a good game in September now, and there is still no guarantee RAW 2 will be any good. It would need a major overahul to be a great game IMO. For a game delayed that long that lacked that much, it's hard for me to believe they can make everything ok next time around, and this delay makes me think the odds of it stinking are even better.
As far as Gamecube goes, WM for Cube was nothing like WM for n-64. The game actually reminded me a lot of PS2's latest SYM, only a lot crappier. I think Cube's WM series needs the most overhauling of the 3 because it plays worse than RAW, and lacks the extra's SYM does have too.
As far as PS2 Goes SYM is the best of the 3, I do like the game, the CAW is good, still could be better, the storyline is fun, but still it has the trademark arcade style play that will always hinder any grappler in my book, and will always keep any grappler far from what I expected out of the 3 next gen systems.
The we have LOW I and 2. The legends picked are kinda weak, the games are kinda weak, and in the xbox version, removing the custom track selection was retarded LOW2. They took away the only good idea they ever had in that series IMO, so i don't have any hope for the LOW series myself.
Next is Def Jam Vendetta. Here it was the game made by the creators of No Mercy and WM2000, this has to be the god of all wrestling games if these guys made it! Wrong, many grappler fans are not going to be just fine and dandy with the old engine without CAW. I have no idea who in the hell these rap stars are and only looked forward to the game so I could edit them all or create the real grapplers, but no CAW would leave me playing a great engine, but only with rappers I never heard of. Hard for me to believe i now have no interest in this game, but like all the others, there always has to be a major flaw in it to screw it up.
It's amazing out of 3 systems, not a single company on either system can get it right, even with the creators of No Mercy and WM 2000 making a game now. I bet I have stumbled upon 1,000's of gripes from grappler fans of every system, because they have no game comparable to No Mercy or WM2000, and it's amazing not 1 company can just say we will give them what they want, and they will buy it and be happy. Instead everyone has to be the hero and make something completely new, and winds up letting everyone down over and over again.
The way I saw it, it was simple. Use the sucess No Mercy and WM had and improve on it. It's amazing not 1 jackass of the many jackass's that develop grappling games for any of the 3 systems understand that. I bet every grappling fan here can understand that simple solution to pleasing the grappler fans, I bet every wrestling game fan on every forum for every system can understand that, and the only people who do not understand it, are the f'n morons making these games.
I am a huge wrestling game fan, hell I'd invest in a completely new system just to get the game I want if someone would make it for me, but I can even get that game if I own all 3 systems out right now, and it really ****es me off.
As far as Xbox goes, I bought RAW with high hopes, only to get a game that lacked blood, extra's, a crappy CAW, and the game was delayed for a long time, and still the game came out like crap with an old roster after all the delays. Just read RAW 2 is delayed, so the best I can hope for is a good game in September now, and there is still no guarantee RAW 2 will be any good. It would need a major overahul to be a great game IMO. For a game delayed that long that lacked that much, it's hard for me to believe they can make everything ok next time around, and this delay makes me think the odds of it stinking are even better.
As far as Gamecube goes, WM for Cube was nothing like WM for n-64. The game actually reminded me a lot of PS2's latest SYM, only a lot crappier. I think Cube's WM series needs the most overhauling of the 3 because it plays worse than RAW, and lacks the extra's SYM does have too.
As far as PS2 Goes SYM is the best of the 3, I do like the game, the CAW is good, still could be better, the storyline is fun, but still it has the trademark arcade style play that will always hinder any grappler in my book, and will always keep any grappler far from what I expected out of the 3 next gen systems.
The we have LOW I and 2. The legends picked are kinda weak, the games are kinda weak, and in the xbox version, removing the custom track selection was retarded LOW2. They took away the only good idea they ever had in that series IMO, so i don't have any hope for the LOW series myself.
Next is Def Jam Vendetta. Here it was the game made by the creators of No Mercy and WM2000, this has to be the god of all wrestling games if these guys made it! Wrong, many grappler fans are not going to be just fine and dandy with the old engine without CAW. I have no idea who in the hell these rap stars are and only looked forward to the game so I could edit them all or create the real grapplers, but no CAW would leave me playing a great engine, but only with rappers I never heard of. Hard for me to believe i now have no interest in this game, but like all the others, there always has to be a major flaw in it to screw it up.
It's amazing out of 3 systems, not a single company on either system can get it right, even with the creators of No Mercy and WM 2000 making a game now. I bet I have stumbled upon 1,000's of gripes from grappler fans of every system, because they have no game comparable to No Mercy or WM2000, and it's amazing not 1 company can just say we will give them what they want, and they will buy it and be happy. Instead everyone has to be the hero and make something completely new, and winds up letting everyone down over and over again.
The way I saw it, it was simple. Use the sucess No Mercy and WM had and improve on it. It's amazing not 1 jackass of the many jackass's that develop grappling games for any of the 3 systems understand that. I bet every grappling fan here can understand that simple solution to pleasing the grappler fans, I bet every wrestling game fan on every forum for every system can understand that, and the only people who do not understand it, are the f'n morons making these games.
I am a huge wrestling game fan, hell I'd invest in a completely new system just to get the game I want if someone would make it for me, but I can even get that game if I own all 3 systems out right now, and it really ****es me off.