Sorry X-Box, I'm in love with another woman and you don't do it for me anymore.

Well, I am geting a PS2 for my birthday as well as the X-Box I already have. I need party games and RPGs to survive. X-Box fills one of those categories only. Yeah Morrowind will be 1, but that is it, 1. Also, we lack Squaresoft, which sucks big time. They are also making Skies of Arcadia (great RPG for DC) for PS2 and GC, but not X-box. I am keeping my X-Box for Morrowind (might get it for comp instead, dont know). I hope more good games come out for X-Box, but they have been shooting blanks with games like Nightcaster, Azurik, Obi-Wan, and so many other just average 6.0-7.0 games.

WHO???






























NO, WHO CARES!?

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Well, I am geting a PS2 for my birthday as well as the X-Box I already have. I need party games and RPGs to survive. X-Box fills one of those categories only. Yeah Morrowind will be 1, but that is it, 1. Also, we lack Squaresoft, which sucks big time. They are also making Skies of Arcadia (great RPG for DC) for PS2 and GC, but not X-box. I am keeping my X-Box for Morrowind (might get it for comp instead, dont know). I hope more good games come out for X-Box, but they have been shooting blanks with games like Nightcaster, Azurik, Obi-Wan, and so many other just average 6.0-7.0 games.

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Hooray. Now get off our board.

Who needs Square ? We Don't IMO. I can't believe a bunch of FMV could sell as a game to so many people. I'd rather play the game than watch it.

Yes, I agree, Squaresoft sucks big time... :)


but who needs them and their No Replay Value, Midget Character, BORING, poor excuse for RPG games? Morrowind is NOT the only good RPG coming out for Xbox, there's Night Caster, Project Ego, Enclave, and many more. Who in their right state of mind owuld want to pla a linear game over again! Aparently only PoS2 fanboys...

And dude, instead of naming half-decent games for Xbox, try to name some good ones like Unreal Championship, Halo, DOA3, Morrowind, Enclave, Project Ego, Wreckless, WWF RAW, etc. PoS2 has crap games like Devil May Cry, MGS2, Tony Hawk 3, and alot of other games that either suck or have no replay value at all.

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And dude, instead of naming half-decent games for Xbox, try to name some good ones like Unreal Championship, Halo, DOA3, Morrowind, Enclave, Project Ego, Wreckless, WWF RAW, etc. PoS2 has crap games like Devil May Cry, MGS2, Tony Hawk 3, and alot of other games that either suck or have no replay value at all.

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Don't tell the thread author though that MGS X is on the Xbox. As is THPS3. Oh, and Burnout, and GTA3, Crazy Taxi Next, ISS Xbox, Max Payne.....and all the other PoS2 titles (their best titles) so there's no need to get one.

NO NEED!!

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Unfortunately I agree with the author. I have been disappointed with my Xbox so far. PGR can't stand up to GT3, DOA4 is too easy, and Halo gets repetitive with too few good multiplayer levels. Not to mention that half the weapons (the alien ones) are worthless in multiplayer. I have have already hooked my N64 back up to play MarioKart and Perfect Dark. Any game that doesn't have good multiplayer is worthless after the first week. We need an FPS that has an AWESOME multiplayer mode, with infinite configurations, dozens of weapons, and GOOD levels, like the ones on Perfect Dark and James Bond. Yeah, blood gultch with vehicles is fun, but it gets old because its the same old thing over and over again..

yeah, yeah "get off our site, blah blah blah," but it's true. So far, Xbox doesn't have one game that has decent replay value, at least for my freinds and I. I hope they prove me wrong soon, because I have over $700 invested in my system, between cables, games and controllers. I'd hate to have to trade it for a ps2.

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Unfortunately I agree with the author. I have been disappointed with my Xbox so far. PGR can't stand up to GT3, DOA4 is too easy, and Halo gets repetitive with too few good multiplayer levels. Not to mention that half the weapons (the alien ones) are worthless in multiplayer. I have have already hooked my N64 back up to play MarioKart and Perfect Dark. Any game that doesn't have good multiplayer is worthless after the first week. We need an FPS that has an AWESOME multiplayer mode, with infinite configurations, dozens of weapons, and GOOD levels, like the ones on Perfect Dark and James Bond. Yeah, blood gultch with vehicles is fun, but it gets old because its the same old thing over and over again..

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we have gone over this before, PGR isnt supposed to compete with the Gameplay in GT3, and the graphics are better, sega gt 2002 will compete with GT3 and kick its ass, PGR is a challenging game that require skill, unlike GT3 where you just do the same race over and over to get the cashe needed to buy a new vehicle or upgrade it....sheesh, As for Halo, get competition and play online, after your ass gets kicked a few times, you'll keep playing, Brute Force will be AWESOME and as for SS in previous posts, on your PoS2 FFX is an interavtive movie, it sucks, you follow a red dot, fight and hit X, whoop-de-doo, Morrowind will be a lto better on xbox unless you have an 8000$ machine, and Project Ego will come out and set a new era in RPG's all together, can you say'Final Fantasy what?' if you are doubting your xbox, give it to someone who knows the truth and get on a PoS2 thread...premanantly

What are we playing two months after the Xbox's launch? Halo, DOA 3, Madden 2002, NFL 2K2, NHL 2002, Project Gotham, Blood Wake, Transworld Surf, THPS 2x, Amped Snowboarding, SSX Tricky, Max Payne, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, and other great titles.


What were you playing two months after the Ps2's launc? After looking at the above list you may not want to answer this question. You say you like RPG's well give it a moment these types of games don't happen overnight and we get Morrowind only a couple months after the Xbox's launch, you had to wait a freakin year to get it for the PS2 and FFVII is a better game in my opinion. You want RPG's you will get them this year:


Morrowind

Project Ego (won't see this anywhere else and this will be the Xbox's best one)

Thief 3

Never Winter Nights

Fellowship of the Ring

Panzer Dragoon

Shenmue 2

PSO Version 2

Gaia Blade

and tons of others heading the Xbox's way. You may want to reconsider.

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What are we playing two months after the Xbox's launch? Halo, DOA 3, Madden 2002, NFL 2K2, NHL 2002, Project Gotham, Blood Wake, Transworld Surf, THPS 2x, Amped Snowboarding, SSX Tricky, Max Payne, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, and other great titles.


What were you playing two months after the Ps2's launc? After looking at the above list you may not want to answer this question. You say you like RPG's well give it a moment these types of games don't happen overnight and we get Morrowind only a couple months after the Xbox's launch, you had to wait a freakin year to get it for the PS2 and FFVII is a better game in my opinion. You want RPG's you will get them this year:


Morrowind

Project Ego (won't see this anywhere else and this will be the Xbox's best one)

Thief 3

Never Winter Nights

Fellowship of the Ring

Panzer Dragoon

Shenmue 2

PSO Version 2

Gaia Blade

and tons of others heading the Xbox's way. You may want to reconsider.

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Hooray. Now get off our board.

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LMAO!!!:D That's what im saying Supperdog!
We dont need your negetivity in our forum, so go take your corny PS2 ass on to one of their sorry ass forums and up outta here traitor! :D

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Unfortunately I agree with the author. I have been disappointed with my Xbox so far. PGR can't stand up to GT3, DOA4 is too easy, and Halo gets repetitive with too few good multiplayer levels. Not to mention that half the weapons (the alien ones) are worthless in multiplayer. I have have already hooked my N64 back up to play MarioKart and Perfect Dark. Any game that doesn't have good multiplayer is worthless after the first week. We need an FPS that has an AWESOME multiplayer mode, with infinite configurations, dozens of weapons, and GOOD levels, like the ones on Perfect Dark and James Bond. Yeah, blood gultch with vehicles is fun, but it gets old because its the same old thing over and over again..

yeah, yeah "get off our site, blah blah blah," but it's true. So far, Xbox doesn't have one game that has decent replay value, at least for my freinds and I. I hope they prove me wrong soon, because I have over $700 invested in my system, between cables, games and controllers. I'd hate to have to trade it for a ps2.

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I agree, but only because Xbox doesn't have many epics (RPG's, Act/Adv games) coming up this year. Granted the sports games are kick-ass, but they also are on every other console. And as for PGR, the prequel (MSR on DC) plays alot more solidly, but I prefer it over slug-frame GT3 anyday....

Halo is an excellent game, basically PD with better graphics and Marines (oohrah!!). The multiplayer experience depends on what you do with your Xbox (LAN matches, or online deatmatches thru Gamespy), but if you're solo with no ethernet connection, you indeed are screwed. PD kills halo in multiplayer variety in this fashion (straightup four-player). But remember, PD for 64 has no online options at all, and while there's alot more to do in PD than Halo solo, the experience is better in the latter if you prefer fast-paced action over slower and wittier espionage tactics...

There are a crapload of FPS's slated for Xbox already (whether they are good or not, that's a different story)...;) But don't count Xbox out yet. When Malice, Morrowind, and Project Ego drop, they'll be worth their money in gameplay. If not, you can always break down and get a DC, PS2, or GCN for your RPG/action-adv alotment that you seem to deem crucial.

One thing I see lacking for both new consoles except PS2 is fighting games. VF4 and T4 are on PS2, and Xbox and GCN will have to wait on a version, if they ever materialize. SCII is the only noteworthy fighter coming up for Xbox in the near future, and it looks **** good...

But if you want fighters, RPG's, action/adv games, and multiplayer FPS's, your choice now would be a PS2, because it has a plethora of each these categories right now. And that's hard to admit being an Xbox and GCN owner, but PS2's the way to go on that front.

And give Halo a chance; if you haven't beaten it solo (on Legendary difficulty), then you're definately overlooking its replay value.

-Official Ninja of GameTavern (and NDose)

who cares man... im waiting for nightcaster im waiting for marrowid project ego and i know we're gonna ff11 and all thoseother kickass games if this guy wants a sony pso2 then hell more power to ya dude as for all of us we really dont care.

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What are we playing two months after the Xbox's launch? Halo, DOA 3, Madden 2002, NFL 2K2, NHL 2002, Project Gotham, Blood Wake, Transworld Surf, THPS 2x, Amped Snowboarding, SSX Tricky, Max Payne, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, and other great titles.


What were you playing two months after the Ps2's launc? After looking at the above list you may not want to answer this question. You say you like RPG's well give it a moment these types of games don't happen overnight and we get Morrowind only a couple months after the Xbox's launch, you had to wait a freakin year to get it for the PS2 and FFVII is a better game in my opinion. You want RPG's you will get them this year:


Morrowind

Project Ego (won't see this anywhere else and this will be the Xbox's best one)

Thief 3

Never Winter Nights

Fellowship of the Ring

Panzer Dragoon

Shenmue 2

PSO Version 2

Gaia Blade

and tons of others heading the Xbox's way. You may want to reconsider.

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Again I ask the same question. What were PS2 owners playing on their PS2's two months after launch?

Again I will answer the question as Xboxers we are playing SSX Tricky, Amped Snowboarding, Halo, Max Payne, NFL Fever 2002, NFL 2K2, Madden 2002, NHL 2002, NBA Inside Drive, Transworld Surf, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, blood Wake, Project Gotham, Munch, DOA 3, Nascar Thunder, Nascar Heat, F1 2002, and other great games.


Now let's take it to another level. What were Ps2 owners playing 6 months after launch? Ewwwwww GT 3 finally made its way and you don't even want me to answer this question in terms of the Xbox. Ok I will anyways. All of the games above plus Morrowind, Gun Valkyrie, UFC: Tapout, Hunter: The Reckoning, Sega GT 2002, Spy Hunter, soul Ccaliber 2, Jet Set Radio Future, Transworld Snowboarding, Unreal Championsip, GTA 3, THPS3, NBA 2K2, Brute Force, Rallisport Challenge, House of the Dead 3, MOH: Allied Assault, Blood Omen 2, Street Hoopz, and other greats. Again after this list I would be embarrassed to name off the Ps2's library too (after 6 onths).


This is my point. If you get a Ps2 now because your Xbox is getting old then compare what was on the Ps2 to what was on the Xbox early on and you can know what to expect in the future. Time isn't going to just suddenl stop and in 4 months your Ps2 is going to be the system collecting dust so waste your money.


Also you say there are no good adventure or RPG games coming to the Xbox?


Well I gave a list of RPG's and there are about 10 more coming but here are some good adventure games coming or already here.

Munch

Bruce Lee: Quest of the Dragon

Enclave

Fellowship of the Ring

Xavier Fox

Shenmue 2 (adventure/RPG)

Hunter: The Reckoning

Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams

Chaka: The Forever Man\

Blood Omen 2

Dino Crisis 3


and several others. Are you telling me you would rather play Jak and Daxter then Shenmue 2 or Enclave? Get a grip.


Also you said the Xbox doesn't have any good fighters. Go look at some DOA 3 reviews and then look at TTT or T4 reveiws and tell me the same thing. As far as I am concerned Mortal Kombat 5, DOA 3, Ninja Gaiden, DOA 4, and Soul Caliber 2 is the best line up of fighters coming to any console IMO. Then there are boxing games such as Ready 2 Rumble 2x, Knockout Kings 2002, Rocky, and Mike Tyson's Heavyweight Boxing.

Don't give us this bs you will be sorry in the long run.

I rest my case with the Xbox is getting the better version of most of the Ps2's best third party titles and the Xbox has a better first party of games such as Halo, or exclusives such as JSRF, HOTD 3, Sega GT 2002, DOA 3 and 4, Fever, Amped, Munch, Brute Force, Project Ego and the list goes on.

One more thing you have the nerve to compare PD's multi player to Halo's (and don't even try to compare single player) when you can not only play 16 player LAN with Halo but you can play it online, and you can play four people with their OWN screens or even with a four way split screen Halo is better. Let's see you get in several different vehicles in PD's multi player or let's see you even find me in some of the multi player levels of Halo since they are so big, let's see you race in a capture the flag or king of the mountain game with a jeep in PD. PD is a good game and you have more weapon features but weapons can be added to Halo and it doesn't need any more since needlers, rocket launchers, plasma rifles, plasma pistols, human pistols, sniper rifles, 8 guage shot gun, plasma grenades, marine grenades, are enough for me not to mention most of them have two features and the several different vehicls can be considered weapons. Give me a break.

Other good FPS's coming to the Xbox.

Doom 3

Unreal Championship

Alien VS Predator 2

MOH: Allied Assault

Return to Castlwolfenstien

Halo

Agent Under Fire (Ps2 version is utter crap)

Duke Nukem Forever

Bounty Hunter

Enclave

Cthul

Battlefeild 1942

Panzer Dragoon

and I am sure there are others, don't even use Red Faction in the same sentence as these FPS's.

WoW :eek: That was awsome Xaminor I think you said it all for all of us GREAT JOB !!!!

wow this kids crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Well, I am geting a PS2 for my birthday as well as the X-Box I already have. I need party games and RPGs to survive. X-Box fills one of those categories only. Yeah Morrowind will be 1, but that is it, 1. Also, we lack Squaresoft, which sucks big time. They are also making Skies of Arcadia (great RPG for DC) for PS2 and GC, but not X-box. I am keeping my X-Box for Morrowind (might get it for comp instead, dont know). I hope more good games come out for X-Box, but they have been shooting blanks with games like Nightcaster, Azurik, Obi-Wan, and so many other just average 6.0-7.0 games.

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One word: PATIENCE. The Xbox is not even on the market for 3 months yet. The are a ton of good games coming. Just imagine how many good games will be out by next Christmas.:cool:

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Again I ask the same question. What were PS2 owners playing on their PS2's two months after launch?

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Why are you asking this again? Where you not around in 2000? The answer is Tekken Tag Tounament, Street Fighter EX3, Ridge Racer V, Dynasty Warriors 2, SSX, Madden 2001, and Kessen. None of these titles kept my interest long enough before ebaying the thing in June 2000....

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Again I will answer the question as Xboxers we are playing SSX Tricky, Amped Snowboarding, Halo, Max Payne, NFL Fever 2002, NFL 2K2, Madden 2002, NHL 2002, NBA Inside Drive, Transworld Surf, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, blood Wake, Project Gotham, Munch, DOA 3, Nascar Thunder, Nascar Heat, F1 2002, and other great games.

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And chances are he's already played and finished a vast majority on a PS2 already. The examples are SSX Tricky, Max Payne, NFL2k2, Madden, NHL, Silent Hill 2, Nascar, and F1. All these games have been out on PS2 months before the Xbox was even launched. I doubt he'll take that list seriously...

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Now let's take it to another level. What were Ps2 owners playing 6 months after launch? Ewwwwww GT 3 finally made its way and you don't even want me to answer this question in terms of the Xbox. Ok I will anyways. All of the games above plus Morrowind, Gun Valkyrie, UFC: Tapout, Hunter: The Reckoning, Sega GT 2002, Spy Hunter, soul Ccaliber 2, Jet Set Radio Future, Transworld Snowboarding, Unreal Championsip, GTA 3, THPS3, NBA 2K2, Brute Force, Rallisport Challenge, House of the Dead 3, MOH: Allied Assault, Blood Omen 2, Street Hoopz, and other greats. Again after this list I would be embarrassed to name off the Ps2's library too (after 6 onths).

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I won't even answer your question here, due to the mountainslide of PS2 games that were available by then in early 2001. Instead I'll just post more Xbox games that were on PS2 awhile ago: Spy Hunter, GTA 3, THPS3 (online, unlike Xbox and GCN versions), NBA 2k2, Blood Omen 2, and Medal of Honor. SCII, JSRF, UC, and Gun Valkyrie will also make their way to the PS2 before or on the Xbox game's debut.

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This is my point. If you get a Ps2 now because your Xbox is getting old then compare what was on the Ps2 to what was on the Xbox early on and you can know what to expect in the future. Time isn't going to just suddenl stop and in 4 months your Ps2 is going to be the system collecting dust so waste your money.

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I'm not even going to touch this one since it's such a biased statement. Wasting his money? In most people's eyes shelling out 300+ for a game is considered "wasting money", and the Xbox is not exempt from this...

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Also you say there are no good adventure or RPG games coming to the Xbox?

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OK, now I really get the hint that you are talking to me, and you've confused yourself. Did I say, "there are no good adventure or RPG games coming to the Xbox"? Thank you. And for further evidence, I even pointed to Project Ego and Morrowind as major titles I plan to buy. How could you get such an obvious statement twisted?

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Well I gave a list of RPG's and there are about 10 more coming but here are some good adventure games coming or already here.

Munch

Bruce Lee: Quest of the Dragon

Enclave

Fellowship of the Ring

Xavier Fox

Shenmue 2 (adventure/RPG)

Hunter: The Reckoning

Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams

Chaka: The Forever Man\

Blood Omen 2

Dino Crisis 3


and several others. Are you telling me you would rather play Jak and Daxter then Shenmue 2 or Enclave? Get a grip.

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Man you're one misled puppy. My whole point of advising J98 and Virazslo to stick with PS2 was because of RPG's, which they both appear to favor heavily. And in case you didn't know, PS2 already has 20+ available, compared to the 10 you have listed. And this list isn't even correct- Dino Crisis isn't an adventure game, neither is Silent Hill. And wasn't K-X what happened to the Bruce Lee game? I'd swear it is a fighter....You should have listed Have a Mice Day, Fate, BloodRayne, and Pirates of Skull Cove as exclusive adventure examples. BTW, the only "true" RPG's slated for Xbox are Fate, Morrowind, Project-Ego, and Enclave.

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Also you said the Xbox doesn't have any good fighters. Go look at some DOA 3 reviews and then look at TTT or T4 reveiws and tell me the same thing. As far as I am concerned Mortal Kombat 5, DOA 3, Ninja Gaiden, DOA 4, and Soul Caliber 2 is the best line up of fighters coming to any console IMO. Then there are boxing games such as Ready 2 Rumble 2x, Knockout Kings 2002, Rocky, and Mike Tyson's Heavyweight Boxing.

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I'll say this one more time: PS2 has more fighting games out now than Xbox has slated for 2002, and then some. Mike Tyson, Knockout Kings, SCII, MK5, T4, and VF will or a have already been on PS2. I am a fighting fan, and I've played half of these games in arcades before developers even thought of console porting. Which is why I can tell you lacking Guilty Gear, CvS, MvC, VF, and Rival Schools franchises is a serious mistake for Xbox and GameCube (although CvS3 may still be in the works for GCN). DOA3 is, to the average and advanced fighting fan, merely DOA2 with 2 more characters gameplaywise. And if you've read those "reviews", they'll tell you that too. Ninja Gaiden is NOT a fighting game, in case your new to that NES series, and is slated for a GCN debut first, and then all consoles if Tecmo decides. Dude, you've got ALOT of stuff mixed up. Fix it.

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Don't give us this bs you will be sorry in the long run.

I rest my case with the Xbox is getting the better version of most of the Ps2's best third party titles and the Xbox has a better first party of games such as Halo, or exclusives such as JSRF, HOTD 3, Sega GT 2002, DOA 3 and 4, Fever, Amped, Munch, Brute Force, Project Ego and the list goes on.

One more thing you have the nerve to compare PD's multi player to Halo's (and don't even try to compare single player) when you can not only play 16 player LAN with Halo but you can play it online, and you can play four people with their OWN screens or even with a four way split screen Halo is better. Let's see you get in several different vehicles in PD's multi player or let's see you even find me in some of the multi player levels of Halo since they are so big, let's see you race in a capture the flag or king of the mountain game with a jeep in PD. PD is a good game and you have more weapon features but weapons can be added to Halo and it doesn't need any more since needlers, rocket launchers, plasma rifles, plasma pistols, human pistols, sniper rifles, 8 guage shot gun, plasma grenades, marine grenades, are enough for me not to mention most of them have two features and the several different vehicls can be considered weapons. Give me a break.

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It is obvious to me now that you didn't read my post at all, you just searched for words to bash, because you've said THE EXACT SAME THING I HAVE, and tried to prove the same point. Where should I begin? Didn't I already say that Halo is online and PD isn't? Didn't I already say that PD has more features? Jeez. PD has more multiplayer options, period.

You can play capture the flag in PD and Halo, but how many stages can you do it in? Sure, the stages are smaller in PD, but 30 stages to chose from, programmable and editable bots, a plethora of modes and difficulties, and heaps of weapons destroy Halo here. And yes, 16 people can play Halo on one screen; I found this out first-hand October 2001. How many modes can you do with this, though? And how many weapons? Are there any bots? I won't go any further on this, as the rest is obvious. And btw, I also said that if you like more fast-paced action, then Halo would appeal to them more...why are you throwing your opinion into this? I'm merely suggesting things for the thread starter, and you're enforcing them. Microsoft will NOT send you a paycheck. Get over it.

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Other good FPS's coming to the Xbox.

Doom 3

Unreal Championship

Alien VS Predator 2

MOH: Allied Assault

Return to Castlwolfenstien

Halo

Agent Under Fire (Ps2 version is utter crap)

Duke Nukem Forever

Bounty Hunter

Enclave

Cthul

Battlefeild 1942

Panzer Dragoon

and I am sure there are others, don't even use Red Faction in the same sentence as these FPS's.

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You forgot to mention Quake 4 and Unreal 2 since you're mentioning rumored games like Doom 3 and RTCW. Enclave and Panzer Dragoon are more like RPG's, and Agent Under Fire for both GameCube and Xbox will also be "utter crap", since EA's said they've done nothing new to the engine but graphic updates. Man, you've redefined the term "misinformed"....:rolleyes:

One major question: who are you quoting? You quoted yourself here, yet you seem to speak of some of my advice to J98 and Virazslo in your "rebuttal". If you are indeed talking to me, then hello, and know your stuff before you mouth off. You own this console, yet know so little about it's titles...disturbing...:(

-Official Ninja of GameTavern (and NDose)

Since im just jumping into this im not going 2 get 2 technical, because i dont keep up with everything on xbox, i dont have enough time. I will say this - god **** both sides are acting like 2 year olds fighting over marbles. Be grateful u even have a console - i know i am - this is the first console my parents have let me buy (xbox) and im ****ed happy about it. Sure the ps2 has more games out right now, and some are really good, but you would be f***ing dumb to throw out ur xbox because there arent enough games out, just from the ones out already it was worth the money, hey dumbass just wait for more games to come out. Oh ya, since your talking about how misinformed every1 is, ill just point this out - Unreal 2 is for comp, there also coming out with a UT2 for comp, x-box has unreal championship. ANd since i love UT so much i personally cant wait for all of those to come out (the only problem is money for a new comp so i can run them...)

Xbox kicks PS2's as in three aspects - FPS, graphics, and multiplayer. It only has two controller ports for gods sake, id hate to see its vid card, and xbox's internet is going 2 be badass (now all i need is more money for broadband..) especially with UC (which i dont know why isnt being disucssed more) and its voice communicator. So even though ive played bond for PS2 twice and im already addicted - im going to have to stick with Xbox, besides i dont think my paretns would let me buy a PS2 anyway
:(, hehez.