What do you think Bungie is doing to Halo 2?

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08-20-2003
Dyslexic Chaos

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Originally posted by Koopa

i tried to be nice, but you just can't stop fighting, can you?

then i guess this thread is pointless.

its obvious to me that i can't convince you of my viewpoint, its obvious to me that i can't get a nice discussion going because you continue to make this a personal thing, and its obvious to me a discussion about the games is not what you WANT, because i gave an offer to return the discussion to the games, and it was ignored.

this is a waste of my time, your time, and everyone else who is attempting to read through our bickering. mods, if you're reading, i think this would be a good time to close this thread, its gone WAY off topic.

I know how you feel man, he always does this. Takes things out of context, gives subtle insults, and acts all high and mighty. I agree with you Koopa, all the games will be AMAZING, but in my order from best to worst:

1)Half Life 2
2)Halo 2
3)Deus Ex 2 (why does no1 mention this nemore?)
4)Doom III

You know what, I try and be nice to mac all the time, but he always ends up being stuck up and not listening to a word ne1 says unless they agree with him. According to him, all Fighting Games suck because they are repetitive. Why are they repetitive you may ask? He thinks there is a very limited amount of things you can do in each situation in a fighting game. No, I don't get it either. There are so many attacks in a GOOD fighting game to vary things, and when you get 2 GREAT players going at it, it is simply AWESOME to watch. Alot more strategy than he would like to admit I'm sure. But, I will once again try to put this all behind us and get back on Topic...

I believe Halo 2 started developement about 2 months after Halo came out, because it is rare for a game to begin developement before the previous one is shipped, in case it is a flop. I know what your thinking "but Halo was obviously awesome!!! How could it flop?!?!" Well, as we all know, some games just slip under everyones radar, making a sequel useless...

I also don't believe Halo 2 is done, and honestly, yes, often times games are done about a few days before they ship. That is why there are so many last minute delays, because they couldnt reach the deadline.

Jerred Final Thought: HL 2, Halo 2, and Deus Ex II will rock every FPS's fans world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08-20-2003
Dyslexic Chaos

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Originally posted by MerimacHamwich
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Seriously Koopa, I don't understand how you are coming about with this viewpoint. I explained in my post why I said what I did. You seem to have conveneintly forgot that part though...

Also, some of the things you posted in your last post showed your limited knowledge of programming and game development. Especially the part about me takling out of my arse...

If you read what I said without trying to contradict it while reading it,

I think you are the one who is continuing this fight. OK, no more refering to any previous posts or other members comments not about the original subject in the thread from this point on, ok guys? Let's try and keep the peace here.
08-20-2003
Koopa

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Originally posted by Jerred B

I know how you feel man, he always does this. Takes things out of context, gives subtle insults, and acts all high and mighty. I agree with you Koopa, all the games will be AMAZING, but in my order from best to worst:

1)Half Life 2
2)Halo 2
3)Deus Ex 2 (why does no1 mention this nemore?)
4)Doom III

thats my exact same order! well..its pretty close between deus ex 2 and doom3...deus ex has no mp at all but i think a far more intriguing idea for SP, but Doom3 has a kinda interesting SP and a kinda interesting multiplayer...so idunno. I might pass on deus ex just because there's no mp at all...and i never played the first one so i'm not thaatt excited about it...idunno, decisions, decisions...idunno how im gonna find time to beat all these games.

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You know what, I try and be nice to mac all the time, but he always ends up being stuck up and not listening to a word ne1 says unless they agree with him. According to him, all Fighting Games suck because they are repetitive. Why are they repetitive you may ask? He thinks there is a very limited amount of things you can do in each situation in a fighting game. No, I don't get it either. There are so many attacks in a GOOD fighting game to vary things, and when you get 2 GREAT players going at it, it is simply AWESOME to watch. Alot more strategy than he would like to admit I'm sure. But, I will once again try to put this all behind us and get back on Topic...

okay, so its not just me:)

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I believe Halo 2 started developement about 2 months after Halo came out, because it is rare for a game to begin developement before the previous one is shipped, in case it is a flop. I know what your thinking "but Halo was obviously awesome!!! How could it flop?!?!" Well, as we all know, some games just slip under everyones radar, making a sequel useless...

I also don't believe Halo 2 is done, and honestly, yes, often times games are done about a few days before they ship. That is why there are so many last minute delays, because they couldnt reach the deadline.

Jerred Final Thought: HL 2, Halo 2, and Deus Ex II will rock every FPS's fans world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amen to that!
:D
good job getting this thread back on track! if i had a cookie i'd give it to you, but i guess i can offer you a frosty beer instead
:cheers:
08-20-2003
MerimacHamwich

This threads track is Hamwich bashing?! If so, its been on track since I got here trying to stop the argument.
08-20-2003
Frink

The flaming in this thread should be ended immediately. Maybe it can continue into a decent thread.
08-20-2003
SPARTAN VI

Well, I have an uber headache, and just crapped up a storm (stupid Hard Rock Cafe's food SUCKS!)... but I'll throw my opinion in, anyway.

I really don't see what's so hard to understand about Koopa's opinion. He wants all the games, but picks out one that he thinks will be better than the other two (even if it's by a slim margin). What's so hard to understand about that? Here's a list of the big 3 from most to least wanted:

1) Halo2
2) Half-Life 2
3) DOOM3

Now, with all that has been said, I won't need to explain my opinion (I did say if before, even if it wasn't in this particular thread). I base my opinion on what I've seen, heard, or experienced in the past.

Same goes with Koopa, and every other [intelligent] sentient being on the planet. Koopa explained in complete detail why he thinks HL2 will be the better game and there's nothing anyone can say to prove his opinion wrong... unless God gave you the gift of having *THE* ALMIGHTY OPINION, which he didn't.

Now, regarding Half-Life 2. I think Vavle displayed the most amazing feats that no other game alone has produced. Based on the footage I've seen, statements made by the developement team, and my past experience with Half-Life 1, it's more than safe to assume Half-Life 2 will be the most *unique* gaming experience I will have (until another game comes along to dethrown it as Halo did to HL1). But I won't repeat why it's not #1 on my list... I'll just say that I'm looking forward to it as much as Koopa, but when Halo2 comes around, I wont be sure what game I'll be booting up more.

Now this is my opinion. Live with it, or I will kill you. http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies...sfiring_v1.gif
08-20-2003
E Nomini Patri

I say I want to play Halo 2 more, just because I want to know what happens next. I have never played Half-Life or Doom, so I don't know a whole lot about their storylines. I will still buy all three, esp. after seeing Half-Life 2's 25 minute E3 vid. That was awesome watching the guy get shot from the platform, and bouncing on the street below!
08-20-2003
MerimacHamwich

Ok, this will be the last time I post in here. I want to make it clear to everyone the idea behind my posts. First of all, I never doubted Koopa wants to play all three games, especially Half Life 2. However, the attitude in which he was presenting his arguments is what I had a problem with. I found it derogatory, so I did the same to him, becuase I thought he deserved to feel how he might be making others feel.

Now, back onto the real topic, I personally think Bungie is probably in a Beta testing period with Halo 2 right now. Working out slight bugs with the single player and multi-player modes. They may also be incorporating the more complicated Xbox Live aspects right now, from game play modes to communicator details. Communicator details could be how many poeple are allowed on a Channel, if they have channels. Or maybe they are going to work in a button like Ghost Recon, where you have to press a button to talk, like a walkie-talkie.

Other than that, they might just be optimizing the performance to ensure smooth framerates all throughout the game.
08-20-2003
teenzine

I told you, Bungie is taking Halo 2 into a small dark corner to rape it. Someone should help poor Halo 2.
08-20-2003
Stormlord

Heh. I was going to mention Deus Ex but Jerred beat me to it. IMO DE 2 actually looks better than HL 2. Everything mentioned in HL was mentioned to be in Deus. So really HL is not the first to start somewhere. Anyways, there's no doubt that HL will give you a linear feel. Deus would give you different ways to complete a level. Today a trailer was released, I suggest you check it out. Anyways the main topic was, what do you think Bungie is doing to Halo 2. Koopa I suggest you don't come to a Halo 2 discussions because the instant you come in you degenerate it into a Half-life vs. Halo chat or a PC vs. Xbox. But since it's way off topic here are screens for all the contenders.

http://www.deusex.com/screens/xbox/f...x_screen03.jpg
actual XBox screen of Deus Ex.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen001.jpg
Doom III

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen004.jpg
Half-Life 2

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen001.jpg
Thief III (why doesn't this get mentioned?)

http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/h...2/h2_e3_08.jpg
Halo 2 (duh)
08-20-2003
Koopa

meh theres alot better screens you could've used for half life and deus ex.
08-20-2003
SPARTAN VI

Heh, I forgot all about Theif 3. The big 3 kinda bumped Theif and Dues Ex of the top 3 list. :p
08-22-2003
webdaemon

I totally forgot about Deus X 2. That SS looks awesome! So does the shot for Halo 2... Damn, I can't wait!

Anyone else waiting for Music Mixer? It sounds like you can access your music files on your computer through the network. Maybe you'll be able to file share other stuff too. :p
08-22-2003
PapaSKooT

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Originally posted by webdaemon
Anyone else waiting for Music Mixer? It sounds like you can access your music files on your computer through the network. Maybe you'll be able to file share other stuff too. :p

Thanx for reminding me :)
08-22-2003
webdaemon

Oh, no prob... :cheers:
08-22-2003
Hugopolo

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Originally posted by webdaemon
I totally forgot about Deus X 2. That SS looks awesome! So does the shot for Halo 2... Damn, I can't wait!

Anyone else waiting for Music Mixer? It sounds like you can access your music files on your computer through the network. Maybe you'll be able to file share other stuff too. :p

Just what we need a way to get virus in our xboxs now
08-22-2003
Motoko

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. owns you all.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen001.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen009.jpg
08-22-2003
Dyslexic Chaos

*Forsees this thread going off topic again*
08-22-2003
webdaemon

Off topic, really? I have no idea what you mean.

On another topic, I just got Futurama and for what it is, it's OK.

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I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.
08-22-2003
Douchesforfun

as long as the games as good or better than the first i dont care what they do... i only care if they bring it out and that its good... its there choice to do with it what they please:cheers:

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