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I am done with this place. I can't take anymore of this. This place has gone WAY downhill in the past few months. I have been burned one to many times here, and I am tired of some of the people here. This is supposed to be a place where we can all help each other with our Xbox related questions and gaming, but instead it turns into an insult thread cause you asked a question.
To the few friends here that still check this site, you know where to find me.
I know a big part of this is my fault. I finally got the job I've been trying to get, and now all my time is spent elsewhere. We're not a big corporation that can just move some other guy in to cover the faceplate part of the site, and I can't really speak to the rest of the site because I rarely leave this part. I haven't had time to scavenge the 'net looking for new stuff. I haven't had time to do creative customs and show them off. I know you're having issues with a member about a trade and everybody hates it when that happens to them, and eventually it happens to everybody, regardless of what you collect. It shouldn't happen here in our small group of collectors, but it has, and more than once or twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by wicked_d365
I'm waiting for a couple of plates to arrive so I can get the next contest underway, and I will pimp it as much as physically possible to every site I can tell about it. I'm also in the very early stages of a relationship with someone that will change faceplate collecting completely and open it up to literally millions of people who have never considered it before.
I know it's tough when a few high-profile collectors move on. Their excitement spreads and without them, it's hard to maintain your own excitement. I made an agreement to buy a plate from a fellow over six months ago, and I'm just now barely finding the funds to complete the deal. Pretty hard to "lead" a collecting site when your high profile acquisitions happen once every six months. :)
But hang tight. We're getting a shot in the arm very soon.
Wicked,
I'm sorry to see you go. I still think this is one of the best forums on the web but I understand how you feel. It's like getting cut off while driving. No matter how many cars you passed by peacefully, all you remember is the one jerk.
good luck and hope to run into you agian.
im srry to see ya go man hopefully we can play xbl together some day hit me up if u want to play some halo gears 2 or world at war
Do not insult other members
to everyone else i am not trying to be a **** but because of one of his recent comments about me that was completely uncalled for, i decided to return the favor, no offense meant to anyone else
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Originally Posted by JakofallAces
feel bad for the dude up top...dont know what happened between everyone but hope all is worked out.
funny response by jack tho..
who are you lol
i could take two approaches, blunt, life and you suck approach, or the kind and teary bs I'll MISS YOU SOOO MUCH oneQuote:
Originally Posted by FlawIe55
guess which one i chose
Ah, bummer man. Well, if you are on XBL and want to play some time send me an invite. Good luck to you.
I was going to hang around a little still, but after what just happened, I can't and won't. I didn't mention who I was talking about, because it's multiple people. Yes, Jak's was one, but I wasn't trying to start anything. I was just trying to let everyone know why I wouldn't be around and then I get insulted, and I get in trouble. Stuff like this is the reason I am leaving. People can insult and talk down on people all they want, and the innocent get punished. You want to ban me, ban me, I don't care at this point.
Thanks to the rest of you who act like humans and treat people with respect.
Jak, I have requested a permanent ban for you. I gave you chance after chance while you insult someone with every single post you make. I don't even know what you posted because Silent-XBA had to edit it and give you a warning. IMO, that's all the evidence I need that you crossed the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by JakofallAces
"to everyone else i am not trying to be a ****"
You're right. You don't have to try at all.
Space,
That was a long time coming for him and MORE than deserved. I will be more apt to post more now that I know he will not be around.
I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt, but at this point, there's no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrpunchy
Anyway, let's drop that.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGhost2K-XBA
Back on topic, it's sad to see you go wicked, hope for you to come back and wish you good luck in the future. But in the meantime catch ya online some time.
I leave for a few moments and all hell breaks loose!!:confused:
wow, what happened here. Well glad to see the place cleaned up be4 i got here, cya wicked never got to meet ya but you seems decent, cya around
Sorry to say it, but I'm gone too .
Good times though ,
Ryan.
What a disaster. I don't get what has happened here.
Long story short, one party upset another party went at it and this is the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattgame
Chicken, hope you come back.
Well this place, my place, has been torn up lately. It's just a damn shame.
Chicken, I've still got those posters for you if you drop me a PM with your address. I sent an email and didn't hear back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ix Chicken ix
This is the same crap that went on right before the Off Topic forums got deleted.
Sad to see you guys go. I know how frustrating it can be dealing with jerks online - it's too bad it has come to this though. :confused:
what went wrong with the off topic forums, except what can be implied from its name??Quote:
Originally Posted by gameking28
Arguments (ahem, discussions) got out of control to the point that people were threatening each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by pastries r fun
We're just a website about playing games and collecting stuff. The Powers That Be decided they didn't really need the headache, so they closed the off topic forums. I agree that a site can be focused on something but still allow people to talk about other stuff. But at the end of the day, you do have to decide if you're a gaming website or a "discuss religion/discuss politics/discuss movies" website. There are lots of other sites that focus on that stuff, so if you're looking to defend your position to the death, then maybe that other site is a better place to do it.
nice description, space ghost, wish i had seen it, though on the other hand glad i didntQuote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGhost2K-XBA
Very well said. Since this thread has been left open, and others have commented, I'm posting a few of my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGhost2K-XBA
I'm leaving out certain statements as not to inflame the situation.
IMHO members have done nothing to demonstrate that certain sections of XBA should return. The bickering and bitterness continues. This thread proves that.
No one person is to blame for sections of this site closing. We all are. Until we show that we can post here without flaming and bashing other members, I'm sure sections of this site will not return.
I have a lot of respect for the powers that be here. This site has less traffic but at least the site isn't filled with insults, personal attacks and bickering. Sometimes taking the high road isn't easy but it's the right road to take.
I have never been around to see the nastiness people are talking about, but I stuck it out, hoping the forums would return and everyone can get back to the way things were. They haven't and there's less and less posts here every day while the place empties out. A full 24+ hours have gone by without a reply or topic posted in the main 360 forum. I hate having to go elsewhere with the time investment I put in here -_- mainly hang around Escapistmagazine.com's forums now.. Yahtzee's vids kept drawin me back :D take it easy folks, I'll still be lurking here though to shut off the lights.
Its the way XBA had been for years, my friend. Long before you even joined. I still dont know exactly what happened, but I know it couldnt have been that bad. This is the way the Admins say thank you to those who have supported XBA for so long. All the people who posted, wrote reviews, promoted the site, this is what we get. We can all go to the Xbox.com forums, but we chose here because of the great discussions we could have here. I joined over 4 years ago and I've seen XBA go through its ups and downs. I mean, it happens. People move on with their lives, find other sites, leave because they dont like the site. But removing the OTL was a recipe for failure. I hope the Admins see this. Oh! But they would have to actually log on to see. (Sarcasm, everyone relax)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGhost2K-XBA
As for this thread, its pathetic. I'm pretty sure I made one of these 3 years ago when i had absolutely nothing better to do than sit at a computer. I was so upset that people like Reclaimer, Dark Enemy, and others would make fun of me. Guess what, I WAS A TOOL. I deserved it, and theyre all cool people who wanted to have jsut a little fun. If you can't handle someone teasing you online, then there's something wrong folks. Grow Up. Don't make a huge thread about it, don't whine or cry. People take things WAY too seriously around here. Let it be. I know one crazy mod, his name shall remain undisclosed, but I know he gets a kick out of pushing people around. And to you I say GROW UP. Let people be. This mod threatened to ban me and told me that the whole staff has been notified of my actions. GROW UP LMFAO. I called someone a "douchebag". Was it neccessary? No, not at all and i understand that. Did you have to make it a big deal? No.
To keep this short and simple, the members are not to blame. It is the Admins and Mods. Ultimately the Admins for deciding to make certain people mods, and for removing the OTL. Happy mods = happy members. No OTL = no members.
To anyone who read this, please feel free to send me a PM if you wanna further discuss anything. And thank you to all the awesome members who made XBA an awesome place to stay :)
The site was getting to the point that if Obama turned his chin a certain way, it was a sign that he was plotting to blow up the states. It was just a place for spreading hate.
All these so called long time members with high post counts, that have been here a long time couldn't get out of here fast enough when the OTL was removed. Zero loyalty. Instead of riding it out here and helping make the place a better site, they fled.
I've got somewhere over 6,000 posts. 5,999 I'm sure were in the OTL. There's really no point of coming here anymore. This damned thread doesn't even have a place to exist. Fact of the matter is that those members were here for the OTL. Now they're all frowned upon for leaving because what they were here for is gone? If you're thinking "Well Mister GT, you sill man, you, this is an Xbox site after all!", well then you're absolutely right, but I didnt see the Admins having a problem with getting all the traffic when the OTL was still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GamerSince'76
Let's have the Admins show us a little loyalty, eh? The members make the site. You should never piss off your members. I truly hope one of the Admins will login and see this. By writing this I hope to get the same Xbox Addict Asylum I signed up for in October of '04 back.
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I'm not talking about insults like "you're a dork", "No, YOU'RE a dork." Calling someone a douchebag is over the line. (Read the Terms of Service if you're in doubt.) You can't insult someone like that and then blow it off like "It was just a joke." Fact of the matter is, the OTL had gotten so vindictive that members were threatening other members with guns and violence in PM's because of arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Mista GT ll
So, we have one owner, and a corporation whose sponsorship keeps the site alive. There are a handful of other admins and mods that aren't paid, and their volunteer work is needed to keep the site functioning, and to keep it civil. Keeping it running, and current, is hard enough. Would you put up with all that nonsense when you're here on your own time? I certainly have other things to do besides babysit a bunch of misbehaved forum posters. On top of that, we have Wal-Mart as a corporate sponsor, and Microsoft/Xbox is someone we work VERY closely with, and the truth is, they don't want their names attached to some place that is out of control like the OTL was. You go to the BioWare forums, or the Pandemic forums, or the 2K forums or the Xbox forums, and none of them put up with crap like that. Why should we? Just to keep people? That's a pretty lame excuse for accepting mediocrity.
When a thread gets out of control, it gets closed. What do you do when an entire forum gets out of control? What do you do when it gets out of control and pleas to chill out go unheeded?
Let me spell it out for you. This is a gaming website. The key attractive component of this site is the reader reviews. Unlike any other site that I am aware of, reader reviews aren't stuck in a forum thread to die. They're attached to the games, and occasionally listed on the front page, if the review is exceptionally well written. It also has what I consider the premiere spot for faceplate collectors and customizers to talk about plates, share what they know, do sales and trades, and research plates for their collections. This concept was tried before, by 360style.uk and others, and there never seems to be enough members to make the faceplate part thrive. People with actual "collections" are few. People who customize, are few. People who buy plates though, are VERY numerous. Part of our goal is to let those people know that they ARE collectors and that we have a home for them here.
But let me break it down further. This is an Xbox site. It's about games, reviews, and collectibles. That's IT. If you want to talk about something else, feel free to go somewhere else to do it. That's not that hard.
I'm not saying this to run people off. I'm saying it to strengthen the people who DID stick around. I don't care if you've got ten thousand posts. If the off topic forum is the reason you're here and not the games, reviews or collectibles, then this probably isn't the place for you.
What happens is that people come here for those other things, get sucked into the off topic forum, and then end up spending all their time there instead of the other places of the site. Then they take the OTL attitude and bring it to the other forums. They argue over games instead of discussing them. They don't write reviews. They don't offer constructive criticism. It's not a matter that XBA doesn't want that. It's that the members don't want that.
If you have 6,000 posts and 5,999 of them were in the OTL, then let me be perfectly blunt with you. Thank you for bringing nothing to the site. Having a member like that is like not having a member at all. The OTL is not contributing to the quality of the site, and in fact became a hindrance. You say people are leaving. I say, how many have never JOINED because of the crap that went on in there? How many parents told their kids they couldn't come to the site because someone called someone else a "douchebag?" I don't care how many people like that leave. I care very much about how many people who AREN'T like that, never join.Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Mista GT ll
As far as traffic, our corporate sponsorship isn't dependent on traffic. I can't presume to speak for Kamshaft, but as for me, I'd rather have a quality site with moderate traffic, than a sucky site with a enormous traffic. A quality site will keep their members, while a sucky site will watch all their "traffic" pass right on through, never to be seen again.
** EDIT** I just looked again at your last post, and your avatar. I see that you don't have the text under your picture that reads "My Product Reviews." In four years here, you've never written a single review? Not ONE? That's what I'm talking about. Thanks for nothing.
You guys need to stop going about trying to get the otl back this way.
This kind of stuff is keeping the OTL from coming back, please refrain from these types of arguments in threads. This topic is now closed.