RRoD syndrome may not only pertain to 360!!!

[CrazyCougar]

I found this a little amusing to say the least. We have all been plagued by the RRoD without 360's, but it seems that the PS3 has its own version of the problem now. Must be something about the next gen hardware i guess....

The "Red Ring of Death" affecting the Xbox 360 has been a nightmare for Microsoft. It has cost lot of money to the company, as it was forced to extend the system's warranty to cover this technical problem, which is rumored to have a failure rate as high as 16%. Most systems experiencing this glitch started to fail months after they were acquired, so it remains to be seen what would be the actual consequences of the RROD.

Now, the PlayStation 3, which shipped a year after the Xbox 360, may be the next system to experience a systemic hardware failure.

Threads describing an 80010514 error for the PS3 have started to pop up in different forums across the Internet. It seems this error is associated with a malfunction of the Blu-ray Disc drive, which wouldn't come as a surprise considering this next-gen optical disc technology is relatively new and it is still being developed and improved.

Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed...

[WillyV2]

I found this a little amusing to say the least. We have all been plagued by the RRoD without 360's, but it seems that the PS3 has its own version of the problem now. Must be something about the next gen hardware i guess....

The "Red Ring of Death" affecting the Xbox 360 has been a nightmare for Microsoft. It has cost lot of money to the company, as it was forced to extend the system's warranty to cover this technical problem, which is rumored to have a failure rate as high as 16%. Most systems experiencing this glitch started to fail months after they were acquired, so it remains to be seen what would be the actual consequences of the RROD.

Now, the PlayStation 3, which shipped a year after the Xbox 360, may be the next system to experience a systemic hardware failure.

Threads describing an 80010514 error for the PS3 have started to pop up in different forums across the Internet. It seems this error is associated with a malfunction of the Blu-ray Disc drive, which wouldn't come as a surprise considering this next-gen optical disc technology is relatively new and it is still being developed and improved.

Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed...

All I have to say is, good riddance to some Sony fanboys. Some of them laughed at the problems the 360 was having with their high rate of systems failing and now the shoe is on the other foot.

For the people that didn't ridicule Microsoft for faulty systems, well I hope your systems don't have this error described above.

[Mikewarrior]

This is BS... I've gone to many forums & the level of Ps3 failures are very minimal compared to 360s.. Even during 360s first 6 months there were far more failures than the PS3 after almost 1 1/2 years.

How about Microsoft fixes their crap before a Xbox site starts to talk crap on someone else?

It's completely wrong... It has nothing to do with the Blu-Ray drive & for jackass “Cesar" to write "Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed..." - Implying that this incorrect FUD about the Ps3 is what caused it, is the most ignorant attempt by someone at a game site ever.

The Ps3 forums are down because of maintenance... That's it.

[CrazyCougar]

Whoah, whoah, whoah son.

First off, its just an article posted. Secondly, you should remember that when the RRoD started to happen that many 360 followers refused to believe it was real or even a problem as you just stated in your post. It may very well not be a problem, but its funny how similiar the situation is starting out compared to the 360 debacle.

Sony supporters are just as quick to debunk this rumor as 360 supporters were to debunct the 360 rumor. You best hope history doesnt repoeat itself. But you seem awefully defensive on that matter, wonder if it touched a nerve.

[SmartarseV2]

People seem to get awfully worked up over Microsoft vs Sony, it's kinda sad. What happened to the simple times where people just got along? I say if you wanna participate in a real battle, help me get the top off my pudding can...the ring broke at least something will be accomplished at the end.

ridicule

You give a person a little bit of post secondary education and look at the words he starts to use. How morose. But it's okay Willy, I still wanna kiss you all over, and over and again, until the night closes in....until the night closes in.

PS - Those finger paintings were awesome.

[WillyV2]

People seem to get awfully worked up over Microsoft vs Sony, it's kinda sad. What happened to the simple times where people just got along? I say if you wanna participate in a real battle, help me get the top off my pudding can...the ring broke at least something will be accomplished at the end.

You give a person a little bit of post secondary education and look at the words he starts to use. How morose. But it's okay Willy, I still wanna kiss you all over, and over and again, until the night closes in....until the night closes in.

PS - Those finger paintings were awesome.

Hey now, post secondary education has done wonders for me.

[CrazyCougar]

Did someone mention pudding???? Mmmmmmm, pudding.

[WillyV2]

Did someone mention pudding???? Mmmmmmm, pudding.

I think Smartarse has officially found a weakness of CrazyCougar!? I think so!

[Ainokeatoo]

This is BS... I've gone to many forums & the level of Ps3 failures are very minimal compared to 360s.. Even during 360s first 6 months there were far more failures than the PS3 after almost 1 1/2 years.

How about Microsoft fixes their crap before a Xbox site starts to talk crap on someone else?

It's completely wrong... It has nothing to do with the Blu-Ray drive & for jackass “Cesar" to write "Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed..." - Implying that this incorrect FUD about the Ps3 is what caused it, is the most ignorant attempt by someone at a game site ever.

The Ps3 forums are down because of maintenance... That's it.

What the hell man? We just got rid of one ****ing fan boy now another damn one? Jesus, it's a damn article, if you wanna complain, CC give this guy the link so he can complain there. So yeah, there is something wrong with the 360 obviously there is something wrong with the PS3, so what? It's not something to get so *****y about, I mean, damn.

[CrazyCougar]

I just found the article funny. Didnt expect backlash on XBA...LOL! But then again, seems to be a trend lately.

Weakness? I have no weakness!!!

Just cause I like pudding doesnt mean I have a weakness. I like pudding, thats all..... (starts to get the shakes).....

[BROOKLYNSBATMAN]

This is BS... I've gone to many forums & the level of Ps3 failures are very minimal compared to 360s.. Even during 360s first 6 months there were far more failures than the PS3 after almost 1 1/2 years.

How about Microsoft fixes their crap before a Xbox site starts to talk crap on someone else?

It's completely wrong... It has nothing to do with the Blu-Ray drive & for jackass “Cesar" to write "Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed..." - Implying that this incorrect FUD about the Ps3 is what caused it, is the most ignorant attempt by someone at a game site ever.

The Ps3 forums are down because of maintenance... That's it.

I think we hurt his feelings,

[CrazyCougar]

I think we hurt his feelings,

Of course he works for Sony, and can verify that all the information in that article is in fact false as well. He stated it was all untrue, and that the forums were down for maintenance as a fact, so he has to work for Sony to know that information right? My bad.

This is BS... I've gone to many forums & the level of Ps3 failures are very minimal compared to 360s.. Even during 360s first 6 months there were far more failures than the PS3 after almost 1 1/2 years.

Hmmm, wonder about that though. If you proportion the ratio of units sold to the failures we may in fact have a similiar number. Seeing as though the PS3 probably hasnt sold as many units in the 1 1/2 years of existence, compared to the first 6 months of the 360. So that ratio is probably pretty close in failure rate.

None the less, I still found the article comical and leave it to someone to come on here and defend the PS3 to a hilt. I think we have all acknowledged the fact that the 360 has an issue. Now its time for the Sony boys to realize their machine and Blu-Ray may not be as perfect as Sony says it is.

[Not Pink]

Hmmm, wonder about that though. If you proportion the ratio of units sold to the failures we may in fact have a similiar number. Seeing as though the PS3 probably hasnt sold as many units in the 1 1/2 years of existence, compared to the first 6 months of the 360. So that ratio is probably pretty close in failure rate.

None the less, I still found the article comical and leave it to someone to come on here and defend the PS3 to a hilt. I think we have all acknowledged the fact that the 360 has an issue. Now its time for the Sony boys to realize their machine and Blu-Ray may not be as perfect as Sony says it is.

Shadapow!

[Mikewarrior]

None the less, I still found the article comical and leave it to someone to come on here and defend the PS3 to a hilt. I think we have all acknowledged the fact that the 360 has an issue. Now its time for the Sony boys to realize their machine and Blu-Ray may not be as perfect as Sony says it is.

This is a good response to you...I love when 360 ONLY having fanboys try to justify the massive RRoD failure rates by trying to call out the failure rates of other hardware:

1.) The 800150514 error does not occur ANYWHERE NEAR as often as the RRoD. If you think it does, you are delusional & it has NOTHING to do with the Blu-Ray drive! The PS3 has been out for over a year and only now are these stories starting to surface. When did we first hear about RRoD? Launch night? It's been 2.5 years and we're still hearing about RRoD. I'm on 360 number five. My roommates are both on 360 number three. My other good friends are all on at least number two. Most of us own PS3s as well, and so far, NONE of us have had any issues whatsoever.

2.) YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY FAILURE RATES WITH OTHER FAILURE RATES. I don't care if the PS3 has a 95% failure rate, the failure rate for 360 is still too high. We should be theoretically shooting for a failure rate of 0%, not a failure rate of "as long as we're less than or equal to the competition's % it's fine".

3.) For those of you that have had good experiences with MS customer support, I congratulate and envy you. My experiences have been anything but painless. I have had hardware issues with everything MS manufactured except the wireless adapter *knocks on wood*. I've had them lose track of my repaired console for weeks at a time. I've had a refurb unit die the second time I powered it on. This past year, my 360 has been in repairs for a total of four months. That's 1/3 of the year. That's unacceptable. So far, the only thing MS has done to "make it right" is keep sending me other flawed consoles.

4.) For the last time, MS is not doing any of us a favor with this three year warranty. They are doing it to save their own ass. (notice how they didn't start the warranty until some class action lawsuits started up? notice how they denied they were "outside of acceptable hardware failure rate standards" until some class action lawsuits started up? only to then release that there is AT LEAST a 33% failure rate on all consoles?) Where do you think MS would be WITHOUT the warranty? Would you have honestly gone through a third, fourth, and fifth repair if you had to keep shelling out $130 each time? Absolutely not. Secondly, a company that is replacing their own faulty products for free shouldn't be some sort of revolutionary kind gesture. They knowingly released a flawed product, so they f%#% better replace it at no charge. You guys are missing the point. It's not "oh don't complain about the hardware, they fix it for free;" it's "I can complain all I want because they still released a POS in the first place, and the issues still haven't been addressed."

5.) Two and a half years. It has been two and a half years since launch. Guess what? 360s are still dying on a regular basis. New ones, old ones, elites, pros, arcades, it doesn't matter. I remember at launch on these very forums, people were flamed for calling out the POS hardware. People told them that MS would have this ironed out blah blah it wouldn't be a big deal blah blah. If you had posted in that thread and said "In 2008, the RRoD issues will still be widespread" you would have been laughed out of the forum. Well, we're here. You can claim MS has some new processors that will eventually fix the problem, but until we can actually see a noticeable improvement that doesn't mean anything. The three year warranty expires next year. Are we still going to be having these issues? In one year's time, do you think MS can totally transition from millions of flawed consoles on the market to a respectable failure rate? Every person who's purchasing a 360 this year runs a heavy risk of their console RRoDing after the warranty is up. Are you going to start paying for repairs? I'm not. No way in hell. But there's no way these issues are going to be resolved by then. Too many 360s are on the market, and they keep sending even more flawed refurbs out to anyone who goes through with the repair process. We'll see what MS' stance is next summer when the backlash will start over again.

[BROOKLYNSBATMAN]

Of course he works for Sony, and can verify that all the information in that article is in fact false as well. He stated it was all untrue, and that the forums were down for maintenance as a fact, so he has to work for Sony to know that information right? My bad.



Hmmm, wonder about that though. If you proportion the ratio of units sold to the failures we may in fact have a similar number. Seeing as though the PS3 probably hasnt sold as many units in the 1 1/2 years of existence, compared to the first 6 months of the 360. So that ratio is probably pretty close in failure rate.

None the less, I still found the article comical and leave it to someone to come on here and defend the PS3 to a hilt. I think we have all acknowledged the fact that the 360 has an issue. Now its time for the Sony boys to realize their machine and Blu-Ray may not be as perfect as Sony says it is.

You know what, I have 5 Reasons why No one should ever own a ps3, it's nice that your a fan of ps3 really very nice... but here you go fan boy and addicts enjoy.. http://www.gameklip.net/video/1371
Now keep up with me fan boy, you got to see and hear my opinion sir.. I listened to your ramble lol.. for most of the time but here you go...
http://www.gameklip.net/video/1365

now I think by using ps3's recent day best and xbox 360 if you noticed used there none hyped games (with the exclusion of halo3) which lets face it took your ps SONYS manhood of rain and power in one little year with the release 2... but the point is the guy who made that used the most mediocre games, for the xbox 360 and it stilled looked better than snake or w/e the retard with the bandanas name is, by just using ghost recon.. sad but true, yeah we got more rings of death, but thats external can be changed and fixed, i survived 3 months with it, i moved on and so can anyone in this room but It would kill me if i paid 600 to 800 dollars to play games on ps3 only to know and hear, that xbox 360 is better in every aspect and then to be showed that it is. must kill you... "BURNS DOESNT IT"

[Ainokeatoo]

now I think by using ps3's recent day best and xbox 360 if you noticed used there none hyped games (with the exclusion of halo3) which lets face it took your ps SONYS manhood of rain and power in one little year with the release 2... but the point is the guy who made that used the most mediocre games, for the xbox 360 and it stilled looked better than snake or w/e the retard with the bandanas name is, by just using ghost recon.. sad but true, yeah we got more rings of death, but thats external can be changed and fixed, i survived 3 months with it, i moved on and so can anyone in this room but It would kill me if i paid 600 to 800 dollars to play games on ps3 only to know and hear, that xbox 360 is better in every aspect and then to be showed that it is. must kill you... "BURNS DOESNT IT"

That post put it better than I could explain.

[LiquidX]

All I know is I bought my first 360 4 months after launch and have not had one single problem with it... Until I decided to make it "special" and play on Xbox Live and get it banned during the Halo 3 beta. It still works fine with no red rings however!

I then bought an Elite. Which still works 100% without problems, and looks sexier.

I can think of 7 friends right off the top of my head that have had 360's for around a year or more, and no RRoD. One Halo Edition, the rest normal.

I'm pretty damn sure the problems have been addressed, Microsoft is not going to chance losing profits and more importantly bad publicity from not addressing faulty hardware. They have the money to fix the problems. I'm sure they did.

But Sony has no problems to fix right? Theres not a chance that anything would ever go wrong after using one of their highly technical products, with a NEW media technology for hours upon hours is there? I mean the PS2 was perfect and didn't give disc read errors because of a stupid little laser adjustment cog in the drive did it? There was never a class action lawsuit against Sony for the PS2 either... because their products are perfect!

[WillyV2]

This is BS... I've gone to many forums & the level of Ps3 failures are very minimal compared to 360s.. Even during 360s first 6 months there were far more failures than the PS3 after almost 1 1/2 years.

How about Microsoft fixes their crap before a Xbox site starts to talk crap on someone else?

It's completely wrong... It has nothing to do with the Blu-Ray drive & for jackass “Cesar" to write "Interestedly, at the time of this writing the PlayStation.com forums are temporarily closed..." - Implying that this incorrect FUD about the Ps3 is what caused it, is the most ignorant attempt by someone at a game site ever.

The Ps3 forums are down because of maintenance... That's it.

Opinions, they are great.

Calm down, seriously.

[CrazyCougar]

I dont think I ever once said that the 360 failure rate was acceptable. As a matter of fact, in most posts concerning the RRoD I condemn MS for their manufacturering debacle.

Quite defensive arent we?

[SmartarseV2]

The color of your skin don't matter to me
As long as we can live in harmony.

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?


I think WAR says it best. What if this isn't even about system errors? From what I can see this is a race war. The black, smooth, shiny finish on the PS3, vs the white matte of the 360 (in some cases black or olive). Some people hate the white "Oh the 360 gets RRoD...blah blah its garbage" Others rag on the black "PS3 suxorz, system error, blu-ray is gay-ray"

Be ashamed. Who really gives a rats patookus?

P.S. - Turns out I had the can upside down...the ring was on the other side.